posted February 15, 2015 02:09 AM            

I noticed having classes taught by her and in meetings that she is incapable of taking criticism, and acts as if she is always right in a superior kind of way. Whenever a student challenges her viewpoints (and believe me, she has said many inaccurate things), she ignores their question and continues on rambling pointless things. Apparently she got in trouble at her older university for fabricating data on her study, among other unethical things.

I don't hate her but rather get put off by her behavior, and I never look forward to her classes. Tends to be very manipulative at times, and many faculty members refuse to work with her. Because she has tenure and hasn't been caught doing anything questionable here, she continues to get away with it. She is clearly very bright and has a wide range of scopes and interests, but not always well researched on issues. Seems very ungrounded at times and not always on top of things.

Here is our synastry. Not 100% sure on her birth time, but the 9th house stellium made the most sense given her personality. Thank god for department birthday announcements, or I would have had no idea where to start.

posted February 15, 2015 06:16 AM            

funnily, what you wrote brings back a memory from like 20 years ago. At that time I encountered a woman faculty member a little similar to your example when I was working as a tutor for a second-year course which she then taught for the very first time. At the time, I'd been doing the tutoring twice already with someone more senior than her, who had used the only existing introductory text available on the subject as textbook. She, however, had the ambition to create an entirely new course from scratch because of a favorite theory she had (which is unfortunately not a very useful one - according to most experts on the subject) and was determined to implant it in the brains of the beginner students from day one with her new course. The lessons thus neglected the basics and focused almost entirely on her rather esoteric pet theory. The problem began when in some cases her theory didn't work at all (although it worked at other times) and when some of the brighter students inevitably stumbled over this and asked her questions, she flat out denied this was the case even in the face of clear evidence. She even expected me to back up her opinion during the tutorial sessions (which I could not bring myself to do in cases where what she had said was demonstrably wrong - I would have needed to lie to the students when asked a direct question and that wasn't doable). Which led to a falling-out of sorts and I later heard when I'd already graduated, that she had cancelled the tutorial in the year after to inhibit that kind of "interference" (which some would perhaps call a reality check). Funnily many years later I met a few of her "victims" and they told me they saw themselves as a "lost generation" because they'd never gotten the basics right…

Now what is curious is that this woman (who otherwise, as a person, is quite friendly) was a Gemini Sun and Mercury like the one you wrote about, which may of course just be coincidence. I got along with her alright apart from our academic differences, but she was positively hated by some of her senior colleagues and still is. It's the main reason she never got tenure. One man couldn't even be in the same room with her and always put her down in a very nasty way - just because he disliked her way of talking so much… I feel she didn't even realize how she was perceived by her peers, and was quite sad and clueless about it. The main similarity with your case seems to be the need to be right, and the willingness to ignore evidence to the contrary or even manufacture data when pursuing a pet theory - and the ability to rub a lot of people the wrong way with her communication style without even noticing.

posted February 15, 2015 09:40 AM            

1. Mars in Cancer, touchy-touchy.

posted February 15, 2015 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
You personally....maybe she can accidentally stumble on your hurts every now and again.
Say things that touch a little to close to home and not in a good way. Her way of trying to help makes you feel lik she thinks your a child, not capable of doing things, it feels she's potentially putting you down and hurts your feelings?

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Hmm, that is interesting. I think my feelings stem from being a teacher as well (TA), and I cannot stand when teachers push their own agenda instead of all sides of the issue. I wouldn't say she hurts my feelings, but annoys me because she will not debate. How can you have fruitful conversation and growth if you are not willing to see all sides of the coin? I'd say I would hurt more at anything, because I used to politely call her out on her inaccuracies like other students in the class.

@Vajra: definitely post it! I would be interested to see if there are similarities between these two. You hit a good point about being clueless towards one's reputation, because I often wonder if my professor is clueless to how people in the department view her.

posted February 15, 2015 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
@DF: LMAO-you've influenced me for good or bad! I actually knew this professor's birthday but not her year of birth, which drove me nuts! Finally my advisor told me how old she was, and eureka!!!

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posted February 15, 2015 06:42 PM            

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posted February 15, 2015 06:45 PM            

She wants to impose order on your deepest, primal self. You want to explode her order. There you go

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posted February 15, 2015 07:10 PM            

Yup, Chiron conj Sun is a toughie. Since Chiron is related to childhood issues, should I add in child or youth asteroids and see if there is something she reminds me of? Maybe that is why I am uncomfortable?

Yeah, I see that Pluto-Saturn as a way to break her order by revealing the truth and keeping academic integrity. But when people have lifetime routines it is hard to get them to budge.

posted February 15, 2015 08:19 PM            

However, I have seen almost every( and I would say not almost but all) Chiron/Personal planet relationships not be able to maintain except Chiron conj the NN in which there is a pain theme lol

What a jolly life

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posted February 16, 2015 07:00 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
[B]Vajra! That is awesome. I added in the asteroids to her chart and I saw she had Neptune square Academia
The Mars-Neptune and Mars-Pluto in that chart is interesting, because my professor has a lot of Neptune aspects as well. Have to think about this a little more. That relates imo to the false perception and being able to deceive her fellow faculty in situations.

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posted February 16, 2015 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Cancer mars makes me want to break sh*t.

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I have it. I hate it but we each have some detriment and fall positions

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posted February 16, 2015 10:05 AM            

I added some asteroids to her natal and synastry and the results are interesting.

Natal
Lie in 1st house- lies are visible to the world lol

square Jupiter, Chiron

Swindle square her Mercury, trine MC

Nessus Square Pluto->what does this mean??????

Nemesis in 10th house square Ascendant

Synastry

I added in Child asteroid because I was curious to see whether she triggers a memory from my childhood and...

My Child sextile her Pluto lmaooooooo

My Moon trine her Lie, Venus square Lies, Uranus sextile LIe

My Mars sextile, Saturn opposition, Neptune opposition, Pluto trine Nemesis ---->fate my friends

My Mars sextile, Saturn sextile, Neptune sextile, Pluto trine Swindle

My Dejanira square her Pluto oop.

posted February 16, 2015 10:06 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Cancer mars makes me want to break sh*t.

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Could be worse: Mars in Pisces tho....

....I don't even........

posted February 18, 2015 12:48 PM            

No way!!!!! Are you serious!?!?!

That is awkward, and uh, concerning. Because Child is in Scorpio and Dejanira in Leo the day my professor was born.

WOW.

posted February 18, 2015 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Are you sure, because Child and Deja wouldn't conjunct?

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posted February 18, 2015 04:30 PM            

HOLY CRAP!!!! Faith you are right, the charts are almost identical!

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I have it. I hate it but we each have some detriment and fall positions

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Are you going to address this issue, or continue to duck and fade? This is actually a very big deal because you have told people numerous times you have this aspect as a way to help people deal with abuse.

If I were you, I would be on here convincing everyone this is a mistake or misunderstanding. I really hope I am wrong here, because this is business fraud.

Professor's Chart (TOB unsure)

posted February 18, 2015 04:34 PM            

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