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Ami Anne
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posted February 19, 2015 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take my chart off, Bella.

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posted February 19, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already did. That is my professor's chart and its staying up, which I said yesterday. You can continue to deflect or you can drop the ego and accept responsibility.

Edit: So I do not know prof's TOB, that is the only inaccuracy of the chart left up.

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posted February 19, 2015 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit:

Never the **** mind

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Ami Anne
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posted February 19, 2015 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have nessus in the 8th house oppose Child, almost exact. This was what I had in my mind and this is even worse.

I don't know how I transposed it to the other but I did.

Abuse will, always, show up, as will everything else.

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posted February 20, 2015 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Take my chart off, Bella.


So you are saying, that is your chart? You are claiming that as your chart?

While simultaneously saying, today, that you have moon conjunct MC and moon square ASC?

Learn astrology, k?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/230702.html

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posted February 20, 2015 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
And no one here ever makes mistakes, right?

I know this might be a bit off-topic, but I feel like sharing it anyway.
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Somehow I know there might be some reasons for people to intentionally "lie", especially in the internet.

Lots of months ago (I don't remember well) I did this

Because, I noticed that it's very difficult to find answers to certain questions. Because there are questions that couldn't be tagged as "standard" (well, it is relative. Because what can be considered standard for a group of people, could be considered as very complex, dark, confusing, fantasy, paranoia, big ETC for another group).

So, what I've learned these last 2 years in forums like the weekly one, or the astro one is:

If you want to ask an (astrologic) question about a third person. And the question is about certain illnesses, health care or just to satisfy your curiosity about any other topic... it would be very very difficult to get an answer, because people may think that it's not very nice asking about thirds.

So, when you are really interested about knowing something (especially those curious folks just as myself) this may lead to create an "another-me" chart. It's an internet thing.
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So if the problem has something to do with "you posted you have X, THEN YOU POSTED YOU HAVE Y!! "

Well, I've done that lots of times (but well, long ago)

Because I wanted to know certain things that I had the opportunity to see in people I met across the globe (since I'm a travel-freak. Well also a pilates freak, actually )

So, by saying 'x' aspects are mine. Most of the times I got plenty of answers. (People here is very kind ) Then I realized I was creating a confusing vibe around me. (Well, it usually happens with Gemini gals. We're tricksters by nature! (Hey! sometimes only) ) And also that I was being lazy, expecting to receive always answers and not going for them on my own. So, I spent the little spare time I use to have reading some threads and more threads and the reference ones. (Oh my, I should thank A LOT of kind and dedicated people here!) Now my head is more clear, since I tend to overthink about everything, I'm kind of a restless girl...

Well, I no longer have necessity to "lie" again, since I put more effort in the things I want to learn

So, I can quite understand the reason why someone would "change" some aspects.

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posted February 20, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But if the reason you want to change yourself is because you want to look more 'kick-ass' lol

Or because you want to hide something, then I'd say that's not right.
- Every human being is like a miracle, and you should be proud of what you are

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posted February 20, 2015 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, having said this I think any conflict will just... vanish *winks*

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Vajra
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posted February 20, 2015 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemBird82:

Somehow I know there might be some reasons for people to intentionally "lie", especially in the internet.


Hm…I completely understand people NOT wanting their natal chart out there - in order not to be identified on the net, or in order not to be judged because of astro prejudices, or whatnot. However, "impersonating" another's chart in order to get more answers seems somewhat problematic to me - not meaning to offend you, GemBird, just giving my honest perspective from the receiving end. Looking at someone's chart and thinking about another's life problems actually takes time and energy, and I find it somehow unethical to "cheat" the people who freely do this (I am usually not among them so no worries) by giving out dishonest info and data just because of curiosity. If the "real" story gets few responses then that might sometimes just indicate that either nobody feels like tackling it right now, or that the problem might not seem very urgent (although sometimes, it's just bad luck and people are simply busy). But making the story sound more urgent and personal than it actually is to gain the attention of more people who read for others is - I feel - not quite a good thing to do. I, for one, would never read for someone ever again if I once caught them doing that - just because my time is as precious as anyone else's and I would expect people to respect the time and effort that goes into a reading. I can only guess how others see it but suspect some at least might share that sentiment… hope you can see my point.

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posted February 20, 2015 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So, I can quite understand the reason why someone would "change" some aspects.

Even when they are presenting themselves as a genuine astrologer?

Do you think it's okay that Ami writes astrology articles that will be seen by countless people on the web, using false information?

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posted February 20, 2015 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vajra:
hope you can see my point.

I see your point a because of this, I think I can see a fragment of your nature.
So, I think I understand.

If it makes you feel better, I never got the 'complete attention of anyone' and I never "wasted the precious time" of anyone.
I only got 2-3 lines. ( Maybe because I never ask about traditional astrology in the 'Personal Readings section ).

About being 'unethical'

I don't understand why it would be unethical to try to learn how to help people you care. Without any intention to get inside someone's life, of course.

I wasn't searching for some gossip or mundane stuff. Believe me.

Actually, I never did.
- Weird.

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posted February 20, 2015 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Do you think it's okay that Ami writes astrology articles that will be seen by countless people on the web, using false information?

• That topic goes beyond Harassment. That would be like putting everything in a nutshell.

• Is not about: I agree or I don't agree with you. Or "I like you", "I don't like you". You made a mistake or you didn't.

• Also, I really don't think it's about someone that deceives people to get their Money.
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I think that the root of this problem is the lack of perception about reality while making readings.

Understanding someone's emotions is one thing and it requires a special type of energy.
But spotting what is real, is way different and way more complex. Because our emotions can fool our judgement. Like a mist.
It requires another energy type.

I don't think there is "Malice" in this "issue" you are noticing. Or deceiving intentions.
But those who can't control their emotions, can't certainly achieve knowledge or wisdom.
Both things require a very calm mind, a mind free of fear.
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posted February 20, 2015 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemBird82:
I see your point a because of this, I think I can see a fragment of your nature.
So, I think I understand.

If it makes you feel better, I never got the 'complete attention of anyone' and I never "wasted the precious time" of anyone.
I only got 2-3 lines. ( Maybe because I never ask about traditional astrology in the 'Personal Readings section ).

About being 'unethical'

I don't understand why it would be unethical to try to learn how to help people you care. Without any intention to get inside someone's life, of course.

I wasn't searching for some gossip or mundane stuff. Believe me.

Actually, I never did.
- Weird.


Well, as I said - I was not trying to offend you, only stating my perception regarding the principal issue of giving false birth data or impersonating another's chart. I have not seen threads where you did this, or if I have, then I don't remember them - and if you didn't ask for any full chart readings over and over and kept someone occupied for hours or even days with a made-up story then what I wrote about wasting another's time obviously doesn't apply to you. It has happened though with other people, so the problem does exist. However, the basic thing stays the same to me - I see integrity as a two-way street. If someone wants an honest answer/opinion from someone else, even anonymously on the net, then they should ask an honest question (I suppose you wouldn't like to get dishonest answers, would you?) People will obviously have different views on this topic, which is perfectly alright. This just happens to be mine.

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posted February 20, 2015 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Asteroid Child Conjunct Asteroid Dejanira


I thought I had Asteroid Child conjunct Asteroid Dejanira. I wrote many, many articles on it. I just realized that I do not have it. I am not going to go back and change every article due to the pure time that would take but more so because what I wrote does apply, just not to me :P

To err is human. To forgive is Divine.


"I am not going to go back and change every article"

Oh so you changed your mind? Because today you said:

quote:
I made an error on my chart, which I realized and corrected.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/230702-3.html

So, if I pull up those articles now, I will see the corrections?

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posted February 20, 2015 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Gem bird.

Faith shows her character on her attacks on me.

It is a reflection of her, not me.

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posted February 20, 2015 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being a Mod here for 7 years has taught me how to deal with things like this and for that I am very grateful.

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posted February 20, 2015 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What did you correct, exactly? You said you made some corrections...what were they?

Not the articles...I mean, the first one that came up in a search is not corrected:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002064.html

So what on earth do you have to refute me with, when I accuse you of letting false information stand?

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posted February 20, 2015 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Being a Mod here for 7 years has taught me how to deal with things like this and for that I am very grateful.


Holy $hit

You've been a mod for 7 years!

Why not make it 10?

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posted February 20, 2015 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith

I am going to ask my best friend, in real life, who is studying Law to see if your calling me a liar is slander.

I am a professional and that is, most likely, slander

If it is, you will retract it, in public, or you will be hearing from him


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posted February 20, 2015 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well herein lies the problem.

You know I will not link to the proof that you were **new to astrology** in December 2009, because that thread is about your son's death.

But you have not been a mod for 7 years, and we both know that.

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posted February 20, 2015 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Faith

I am going to ask my best friend, in real life, who is studying Law to see if your calling me a liar is slander.

I am a professional and that is, most likely, slander

If it is, you will retract it, in public, or you will be hearing from him


I would be perfectly DELIGHTED to face you in court and I hope he calls.

You will LOSE and I will counter-sue you.

You can afford top lawyers?

SO CAN I.

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posted February 20, 2015 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Being a Mod here for 7 years has taught me how to deal with things like this and for that I am very grateful.

- Then, I hope this is not the way this forum has told you how to deal with problems:

quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Faith

You are such a SMALL person that even when you call someone a liar and get called on it, you still won't retract it.

You are TRULY PITIFUL



quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is between us.

I PROMISE you that you will RETRACT it.

:P :P


- If you really want to thank me, you should practice what I said.
Because in these moments the main enemy of you is yourself and your uncontrollable emotions.

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posted February 20, 2015 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fine, Faith, we shall see

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posted February 20, 2015 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought GemBird82 was a man. @_@
(No offense intended)

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posted February 20, 2015 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemBird82:
I hope this is not the way this forum has told you how to deal with problems:

That's very typical Ami.

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