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Faith
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posted February 16, 2015 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Declinations in Synastry: The Astrology of Relationships


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Not always considered in chart comparison are aspects in another dimension of the chart, and these are aspects in declination. When two planets are the same distance from the equator, they are considered parallel or contraparallel. The parallel occurs when two planets are the same distance from the equator and on the same side (both north or both south). The contraparallel occurs when they are approximately the same distance but on opposite sides of the equator (one north, the other south).

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Parallels and contraparallels between charts offer us more information about compatibility. Strong connections include the following:

*Sun to Moon. This is a classic aspect in synastry. Connections between the Sun in one chart and the Moon in the other chart don't guarantee a healthy relationship, but they do imply the potential for a strong connection or bond. Sometimes, there is a co-dependency feel to the relationship.

*Venus to Mars. Romantic/sexual attraction, competitiveness which can be stimulating. There can also be quite a bit of posing, cat and mouse, "foreplay" that is not always of the pleasant variety.

*Moon to Venus. Peacefulness, contentedness, acceptance, domestic ties.

*Moon to Mars. Potentially volatile but also potentially emotionally rich, stimulating, and exciting.

The outer planets connected with inner planets almost always add complications, but with much potential for spiritual growth. Venus or Mars with Pluto are often indicators of sexual attraction. Venus with Pluto can be especially complicated. While there is usually a lot of attraction, it can be mixed with fear, and Venus-Pluto connections often have a love-hate feel to them as a result. Venus-Pluto and Mars-Pluto are usually at their best when they are played out in the bedroom!

With Neptune, the Neptune person can have an effect of bringing tremendous highs and lows to the other person's life as they struggle with their own dreams and ideals, seeing traits in the Neptune person in the extreme, bad or good, instead of realistically. There is often projection of hopes and wishes onto the Neptune person, and some level of disappointment when it is discovered that the Neptune person is a real, flawed person and not the embodiment of the other person's ideals and fantasies. However, if the couple can move past this drama, the relationship can be spiritually uplifting.

With Uranus, the Uranus person takes on the role of shaking up the other person's life in some obvious manner, whether it's about relationship expectations, daily routines, or ideas. The Uranus person may be seen as inconsistent--all there one day, not there the next, and this can be literally or figuratively speaking. The personal planet person might feel like the Uranus person is always somehow out of reach, and this can be intriguing or upsetting, and usually a bit of both.

With Saturn, the Saturn person acts to remind the other person that they need to be responsible, and this "lesson" can be both rewarding and challenging, depending on how the Saturn person delivers these reminders, and on how the personal planet person receives them.

With Jupiter, there can be a lot of leniency. The Jupiter person is usually quite permissive with the personal planet person, sometimes to the point of encouraging negative behaviors. However, there is quite a bit of acceptance and good humor between the two, and this can be very encouraging.


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posted February 16, 2015 05:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Insightful!

Can definitely relate to Sun/Moon, Uranus, Neptune and Saturn descriptions!

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posted February 16, 2015 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 16, 2015 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great find!

I use 1 degree for declinations.

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posted February 16, 2015 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks ~ I will, too, then!

This thread was inspired by Kannon McAfee's article, which he posted on the Pluto Life Cyles thread.
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/declinations/#pluto

That's a good basic intro to the idea of declinations.

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posted February 16, 2015 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does that mean 1 degree either side of the number?

P.s. You guys have me armed with my pen and paper tonight lol

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posted February 16, 2015 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, 1 degree on either side. I've got my notebook out, too!

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posted February 16, 2015 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 16, 2015 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though I've had these in synastry before, I haven't really seen them play out until now with my partner.

My Venus: 2.37 N
My Descendant: 2.36 N
My Ascendant: 2.36 S
His Sun: 3.08 N
His Mars: 3.06 S
His Pluto: 3.04 S
His Nessus: 3.08 S
(Slightly wider than 1 degree from his planets, also:
My Juno: 4.21 N)

And if that ^ wasn't enough:

His Moon: 25.18 S
My Moon: 25.54 S
Yes, I've definitely seen similarities in how we feel and express feelings. Both out of bounds, too, so I think - from what I've read about it - we become more erratic and intense in our emotions.

My Mars: 9.59 N
My Nessus: 10.17 N
His Mercury: 10.18 N
His Juno: 10.58 S

His Chiron: 12.27 N
My South Node: 12.54 N
My BML: 12.01 S
My Part of Fortune: 11.53 S

My Ceres 19.41 N
His Saturn 20.33 S
My Dejanira 21.25 S
His Neptune: 21.55 S

My Chiron: 16.41 N
His Part of Fortune: 17.36 S
His Vesta: 17.33 N
His Dejanira: 16.03 N
My Psyche: 16.29 S

His Venus: 8.18 N
My Valentine: 8.24 N

(I have this, too, but for the list
My IC: 23.09 S
His Uranus: 23.27 S
His North Node: 22.33 S
His BML: 22.28 S
His Vertex: 23.22 N
His South Node: 22.33 N
My MC: 23.09 N

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posted February 16, 2015 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Helloooooo Rie!

Thanks for contributing. That is amazing...moon = moon, out of bounds!

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posted February 16, 2015 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Septembergirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is good stuff!! Great resource...thanks for sharing!

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posted February 16, 2015 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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With Uranus, the Uranus person takes on the role of shaking up the other person's life in some obvious manner, whether it's about relationship expectations, daily routines, or ideas. The Uranus person may be seen as inconsistent--all there one day, not there the next, and this can be literally or figuratively speaking. The personal planet person might feel like the Uranus person is always somehow out of reach, and this can be intriguing or upsetting, and usually a bit of both.

Wow. *gasp* So, so, so accurate for his Uranus parallel my IC. He has been an inspiration for me - I've told him plenty of times I can really be myself around him, or at least much more than in past relationships. He's definitely shaken up some old relationship patterns, too. The unpredictability, though, yes, I see it.

Actually, in the beginning, he just kept doing his thing, going with the flow and just whatever he felt like, which meant forgetting about us hanging out and not showing up. Sadly, this happened with past relationships as well, but this time I really spoke up, even cried in front of him and not much later, he made up with me and felt a lot of remorse for seeing what it did to me. He's been a lot more reliable ever since. I think, since I changed my usual way of doing things, it made way for my partner to do the same. It was so liberating, I cried in joy when he insisted on making it up to me - very few others have done that for me, instead seeing me freaking out as an easy way out.

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posted February 16, 2015 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Helloooooo Rie!

Thanks for contributing. That is amazing...moon = moon, out of bounds!

Actually I just discovered a friend of mine has their Mercury = my Mars in declination, out of bounds. We've definitely pushed some limits in communication.


Faaaith!

Thank you, yes, it's one of those things you wouldn't have known without checking the declinations.

Pushing the limits, that sounds like a good description for parallels out of bounds. I like the way you worded that.

And I totally took a peek at your list and we have Moon & Mars contra-parallel by only a few minutes.

Eh... should we just read them as a conjunction and opposition?

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posted February 16, 2015 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Sun 23.21 N
My Jupiter 23.39 N
His Moon 23.8 N
His Uranus 23.37 S
His IC 23.10 S

My Saturn 21.12 S
My Neptune 21.52 S
His Saturn 22.25 S
His Neptune 22.16 S

Those saturns *sigh*

My IC 4.59 S
My Moon 4.40 N
His Mercury 5.19 S
His Sun 5.58 N

Moon to Sun DW

My Mercury 20.11 N
His Jupiter 20.16 N
My Asc 19.2 N
My True Node 18.14 S
His Venus 18.26 N

ahhhhhh

His Asc 2.29 N
My Pluto 1.15 S
His Pluto 0.1 S
His Mars 0.42 S

It's intense, the Plutos do not surprise me

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posted February 16, 2015 06:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks ~ I will, too, then!

This thread was inspired by Kannon McAfee's article, which he posted on the Pluto Life Cyles thread.
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/declinations/#pluto

That's a good basic intro to the idea of declinations.


Yes he is a great astrologer. I love his articles for their clarity.

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posted February 16, 2015 06:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we have

my Sun 23°22 S
my Venus 24°06 S
his Sun 23°24 S
his Venus 22°39 S
his MC 23°25 S


my Moon 11°05 S
my Uranus 11°27 S
my Pluto 11°40 N
his NN 10°59 N


my Moon 11°05 S
his Mars 9°56 N
(I know, technically out of orb, but only 9 minutes)


my Mars 21°13 S
my Neptune 20°26 S
my ASC 21°29 S
my NN 21°58 S
my Saturn 21°56 N
his MErcury 20°55 S
his Neptune 21°45 S

my IC 1°58 N
his DESC 1°44 N

also

my Saturn 21°56 N
my NN 21°58 N
his Venus 22°39 S


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posted February 16, 2015 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 16, 2015 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, to everyone who's posting their figures and opinions...I'm fascinated by it all!

@Rie: Loved your commentary on Uranus

@Ceri:

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Anyway I love this one:

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my Moon 11°05 S
my Uranus 11°27 S
my Pluto 11°40 N
his NN 10°59 N

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posted February 16, 2015 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a cute blog post about declinations, with emphasis on how revealing they might be in Davison and composite:

Parallels: Through the Looking Glass Synastry

ETA:

I'm suffering Mercury Rx flashbacks? Every single post I make has typos!

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posted February 16, 2015 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Septembergirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you select the chart, do you select synastry charts?
None of my declinations are really matching either one.

And what significance is the aspect chart?

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posted February 16, 2015 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So far I have only done the declinations for each natal chart. I wrote them down for my chart, drew up another chart and wrote those declinations down...then looked for matching numbers.

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posted February 16, 2015 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Septembergirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On astro.com, I selected synastry charts then followed your directions. The other charts section had a nice aspects chart.

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posted February 16, 2015 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I see what you mean! The aspects apply to the natal charts...wish they had one for declinations too.

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posted February 17, 2015 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I adore declinations in synastry. It opened up my whole world in that manner.

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posted February 17, 2015 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My favourites remain:

My VENUS (09º15 S)
His MARS (08º59 N)

0º16 contraparallel

My PSYCHE (19º04 N)
His EROS (18º30 N)

0º34 parallel

Both incredibly felt, believe it or not.

Still, the ones that get me the absolute most are our TISIPHONES at 32ºN.

32!

Funny how that little detail led to understanding everything.

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