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Ceridwen
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posted March 01, 2015 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me the time last june certainly heralded a potential for something significant to take place with the tp New Moon crossing my natal DESC
(i even wondered about that in a mail to a friend, when I noticed it in advance, what that might mean. lol)


For him however TP Moon was far from crossing any kind of angle.

Though interestingly 2 months later when he came down of his stage to approch me his tp Moon was exactly conjunct tp Vertex (still not in touch with a natal angle though).


I do notice however he has a bulding triple conjunction of Sun, Venus and Mars on the MC in his tertiaries. Been wondering about that one in his chart.

(also sometimes it seems it is enough if a TP Moon has a strong aspect to another personal planet AND another tp planet is crossing over a natal angle.
mr Sag had that at the beginning of his last relationship.

Tp moon squaring tp Nodal axis, though not related to his natal angles at all;
but Tp Mars crossing over his natal ASC plus tp Venus just separating from opposing his natal Mars.

2 months before that tp Uranus was conjunct tp Vertex exact, with the tp Venus-n Mars opposition just starting to build and Tp Moon opposing tp Jupiter-Saturn, and Saturn being natally on his DESC, hence carrying high relationship trigger potential in his case.

Well with the Uranus seems it came as a surprise. lol

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posted March 01, 2015 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I havent had the time to investigate the parallax moon return yet. I know i asked you to send me the data for jy parallax returns, but i havent gotten into it yet. I may do so these days...

Well honestly the normal moon had the better results for me so far, also in terms of lunar returns.

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posted March 01, 2015 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I do notice however he has a bulding triple conjunction of Sun, Venus and Mars on the MC in his tertiaries. Been wondering about that one in his chart

This seems important and quite wonderful for him. Heightened fame, perhaps, career jump, marriage... It will happen the month the TP Moon is active ( either in his tp chart or natal)

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posted March 01, 2015 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I find it interesting how the transits and tertiaries were so precisely pointing to this very exact synastric aspect of yours. And such a sweet tie at that!

As for Mr Sag, I am sometimes confused who really is the persistent one. lol
It seems sometimes as if we take turns in that role. Always just under the surface, though lately not that deep underneath.

Interestingly we will be hit by the Uranus-transit as well

with composite Venus on 16 Cap and composite pluto on 15 Libra, no does not really sound like fun, does it?


well it seems to be interesting that transniting square for him especially, mid march.

As then Tr Uranus 15 Aries, Tr Pluto 15 Capricorn

and he is going to have
tp Venus 12°41 Aries
tp Mars 13°28 Aries
tp Sun 13°40 Aries
tp MC 13°16 Aries

(possibly some interesting time a few weeks back? when tr Uranus was 13 Aries, whenever that was?)


and also tp Moon 25 Pisces, crossing his natal ASC, and then during the following week squarng his n Sun, n Moon, n MC, n Sun/Moon-mp and also opposing his n Saturn and then finishing with the conjunction to his n Antivertex.

his sec. Moon on 21°39 Aries

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looking at my own chart, well whoa, hold your horses. lol

my secondary Moon on 4°58 Leo, still in the building phase (2 degrees) of opposing sec pr Sun


But more than that

tp ASC still in orb of conjunct my natal Vertex, tp DESC on my natal Sun/Moon-mp, not to mention Eros. lol
(all between 21 and 22 Cancer-Capricorn)


tp Moon on 22°55 Libra, squaring my tp ASC - DESC-obviously, but also squaring my n Sun/moon-mp, n Vertex, and luckily being out of orb by then for opposing n Chiron. lol

it will also be conjunct his Pluto (n, sec pr and tp).

Anyway tp Vertex will be conjunct n ASC exact.

nothing planned for march though. except the theatre workshop at school I must not forget. lol

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posted March 01, 2015 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
[QUOTE]I do notice however he has a bulding triple conjunction of Sun, Venus and Mars on the MC in his tertiaries. Been wondering about that one in his chart

This seems important and quite wonderful for him. Heightened fame, perhaps, career jump, marriage... It will happen the month the TP Moon is active ( either in his tp chart or natal) [/QUOTE]

Yes, thought so, too.

so mid-end mach is a "hot month" for that with tp Moon crossing his n ASC I suppose.


then in april this tp Moon will cross the tp Venus-Mars-Sun-MC, which seems significant as well

and then at the end of august tp Moon will be on his n IC, squaring n ASC, opposing his nSun-Moon-MC and some more

oh and being also conjunct tp Avx, which happens to be conjunct his n Moon-MC exactly at that time. So march-september sounds like an important phase for him.

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posted March 01, 2015 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh just out of curiosity I looked at MY tertary for the end of august


tp Moon on 21°41 Capricorn EXACT on my n Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp

Funny enough tp DESC on 26°55 Capricorn is just one degree separating from his natal Venus, and tp ASC is one degree applying to his natal Juno. lol


my tp Mars opposing my n Moon exact

my tp Juno opposing my n Jupiter exact (and conjunct his Mars-Jupiter exact)

and my tp Sun-Venus-conjunction will just come into one degree orb. Interestingly it is in gemini which means his tp Moon must have passed it a week before

his tp Moon will of course also oppose my n Sun on 28th august

my tp Moon will oppose his n Sun (13th july) and his n Moon and n MC (15th july),
also meaning that my tp Moon will be on his tp Avx, as his tp Vertex will be conjunct his n Sun-Moon-MC


at that day (15th july)
his tp MC 18°01 Aries
his tp Venus 18°13 Aries
his tp Sun 18°03 Aries

and tp NN exact conjunct tp ASC

tp Moon just being crossing over sp ASC


So I guess it seems like the time will be important for both of us respectively.

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posted March 01, 2015 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
on the other hand the 12th july 2018 looks rather scary. lol

meaning this:

my n DESC 7°03 Gemini:

my tp Moon 7°07 Gemini

his sp ASC 7°18 Gemini
his sp Moon 7°10 Gemini
his tp Venus 7°38 Gemini
his tp ASC 6°03 Virgo

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and

his n DESC 25°20 Virgo

his n Sun 26°57 Sag
my n Sun 25°56 Sag

my sp Moon 25°23 Virgo

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posted March 01, 2015 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting times ahead for both of you

I didnt know you had TP Sun - Venus building up in your tp chart too. Thats great. Does it tie to the natal somehow?

No, by "your persistancy" i meant you religiously going to his concerts until he finally became aware of you and started to pay you attention. He did not know you existed before. Now you reconnected again after what it seems like a previous life connection.

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posted March 01, 2015 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I noticed we have it both building, his hits earlier than mine.

Funny enough when we first met he was having sp Sun conjunct his n Venus with no orb. I mean literally 0°00. lol

Though it did not connect to my natal (unless we count the semisextile of one minute of arc to my natal Sun, but I don´t usually even notice semisextiles; I did notice this one only cause it was so close in orb, too)


His Sun-Venus - conjunction in the tertiaries will peak on 28th june this year (wow, just 2 weeks after the next concert. lol)

on 17°28 Aries.

(Tr Uranus will be on 20 Aries)


Anyway, though not aspecting the usual suspects in my chart it IS conjunct my Draconic Sun. lol

And most intriguingly, though not easy, square my n Saturn on 16°56 Cancer.

Usually I would say, uoh, does not bode too well. Except it seems that my n Saturn is activated a LOT in the past by him (remember when he was driving me nuts at this concert, he did so, while my tp ASC was conj. my n Saturn. lol)

Well Saturn is my 2nd house ruler and in my 8th house natally.

Interestingly at that time my solar arc DESC is at 18 Cancer, plus my sa Node is aligning with my natal Vertex and natal Sun/Moon-mp by just 5 minutes of arc (so the absolute peak-phase of any aspect)

(btw funny enough my solar arc Moon will be at 28 Pisces, right on his natal Avx)

Oh I just see my tertiary fullmoon will peak just 4 days after his tertiary Sun-Venus-conjunction takes place, and the week after that my tp Moon conjunct my n Sun exactly, too (yeah yeah right on his Sun, I know)


oh and in august my tp Moon will be on 16 Cancer, on my n Saturn, squaring his tp Sun-Venus. (no, I have not found squares any more stressful than conjunctions or oppositions with the tertiaries, but well when Saturn is triggered, stakes usually are a bit higher than usually)
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my own tp Sun-Venus-conjunction, now I nearly fell off my chair. LOL

Hitting exactly on 13th december 2015 on 27°03 Gemini

my n Sun 25°56 Sag
his n Sun 26°57 Sag
his n IC 28°11 Gemini
his n Moon 28°38 Sagittarius
his n Saturn 26°42 Virgo (on n DESC 25°20 Virgo)
his n Sun/Moon-mp 27°48 Sagittarius

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posted March 01, 2015 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny enough, it was just a coincidence I saw him on the first concerts, and I got intrigued, when he payed attention to me, which made me pay more attention to him.
But then somehow there was a blank phase of some years, until I reappeared; he seemed to even recognize me or remember me, which I would not believe at all. not after 2 years of disappearance.

I was very persistent in downplaying it thinking myself delusional and so on, and at some point (probably somewhen during the next hiatus I took, though this time it was just barely a year of disappearing) either I was right and I WAS delusional or he simply gave up trying to connect to me in any way. Which probably was around the time I "woke up" and realized that I possibly liked him a little. I mean I went to most concerts trying to figure out why I was even going ther ein the first place!
I would not even admit to myself, that there might be some attraction I felt towards him.

Him then starting to pay attention to me in the way he did, probably has a lot to do with my external change though. But it is not as easy as to say he just saw I lost weight and thought I was worthy of his attention. Maybe it played into it. But he DID do it before as well, but it was me who did not think I deserved that. Not the way I looked. The way I was.
He couldn`t like me, if I did not like myself, right?
So I became a person I liked, and though of course for us it was too late by then, it was apparently not too late for him to notice that change. lol

It is a little complicated I know.

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posted March 01, 2015 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Now you reconnected again after what it seems like a previous life connection.

that is a good way of putting it.

Yes, it seems that way.
like we had two first meetings. lol
Like I had to go away and somehow sort myself out before I could meet him again.

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posted March 01, 2015 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread.

So, I tried them for my crush, who I think will experience a Kundalini awakening (or some kind of spiritual awakening, along with his Uranus opposition) this year, most probably between Mars and July 2015. It's also possible that I contribute to his awakening in some way, and judging by the aspects, that that could help us 'unite' (might be part of the karma). Progressions and transits for March 2nd, 2015 (with correct meeting time), when I will next see him :

#1
tr Kaali 13°40 Aries conjunct tr Uranus 14°32 Aries trine tr Jupiter 14°41 Leo trine Vertex 12°46 Sag
tr Pluto 15°02 Cap

his n Mars 18°05 Libra and n Uranus 19°45 Libra opposite his n Chiron 14°10 Aries
his tp Venus 14°34 Aries
his tp Vertex 15°40 Cancer
his n Kaali 11°01 Sag

my n Sun/Moon midpoint 12°10 Sag
my tp Pluto 12° Sag conjunct tp Chiron 15°50 Sag
my tp Moon 10°45 Leo conjunct tp Pallas 12°03 Leo
my tp ASC 13°37 Aries


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tr Union 2°35 Scorpio
my tp Kaali 3°14 Tau conjunct tp Amor 3°50 Tau
his tp Kaali 2°30 Tau
his n Sun 5°29 Scorpio


#3 a
tr ASC 26°04 Cancer conjunct tr Osiris 27°52 Cancer
my tp Karma 26°32 Cancer conjunct tp North Node 27°05 Cancer

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tr Karma 24°00 Aqua
his n Union 26°54 Aqua
my n Kaali 25°52 Aqua

his tp Isis 24°09 Libra conjunct tp Uranus 24°29 Libra
my n Sun 24°18 Libra

his tp Chiron 22°28 Aries

his tp Union 25°11 Leo
my n Isis 25°45 Leo

tr Pallas 23°06 Sag


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tr Saturn 4°48 Sag
my n Chiron 2°32 Sag
his tp ASC 2°25 Sag

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posted March 01, 2015 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Applying an one degree orb (tertiary really needs to be that close, or 1°30 at most to have a trigger effect) I checked our first meeting chart (2008) - if I find the time, I will go through all the other of those more eventful times, too.

Anyway first meeting

my tertiaries
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tp Sun conjunct tp ASC 0°31
tp Sun square tp Moon 0°50 a
tp ASC square tp Moon 0°19 a

- 18 Pisces (tp Sun,tp ASC)
- 17 Gemini (tp Moon)

tp Mars conjunct tp IC 0°40 a
tp Mars square tp Vertex 0°07 a
tp Vertex square tp MC 0°33
tp Vertex square n Sun 0°01 a
tp Vx square n mercury 0°53 s
tp MC conjunct n Sun 0°34 a
tp MC conjunct n Mercury 0°20 s
tp Mars opposite n Sun 0°06 s
tp Mars oppospite n Mercury 1°00 s

tp Vx: 25 Virgo
tp Mars 26 Gemini
tp MC, n Sun, n Mercury: 25 Sag

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his tertiary progressions that day

tp Moon conjunct tp Uranus 0°27 a
tp Moon square n Lilith 0°11 a
tp Uranus square n Lilith 0°16 s

tp Moon, tp Uranus: 28 Scorpio
n Lilith 28 Leo

tp Sun conjunct tp MC 0°31
tp MC square tp Vertex 1°23 maybe too wide

tp Sun 12 Cap
tp MC 11 Cap
tp Vertex 10Libra


tp ASC square n JUNO 0°46 s
tp ASC 28 Aries
n Juno 27 Cancer


tp Venus conjunct n Neptune 1°27 a - wide, possibly not relating to me at all therefore
tp Venus 19 Sag
n Neptune 20 Sag

tp Pluto conjunct tp Lilith 0°23 s
tp Pluto, tp LIlith: 24 Libra

tp Pluto square n Venus 1°44 a - but too wide, related to a later time that year

tp Lilith square n Venus 1°23 a - also a bit wide for my taste


the major features for him would have been the Moon-Uranus-conjunction and the Sun-MC-conjunction, of course in addition to his sp Sun conjunct n Venus exact


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synastrically that meant we had that:

my tp Sun square his tp Venus 0°20 s
my tp Mars opposite his n Sun 0°55 a

my tp Venus square his n Uranus 0°43 a
his tp Mars square my n Uranus 0°39 s

my tp Mars square his n Saturn 0°40 a
my tp Saturn opposite his n Venus 0°25 s

my tp Jupiter square his n JUNO 1°31 a (wide)
my tp Juno conjunct his n Jupiter 0°57 a


plus

my tp Moon opposite his tp Venus 1°10 a
my tp ASC square his tp Venus 0°20 s

my tp Mars square his n DESC 0°42 s

my tp Jupiter square his n Venus 0°13 s

my tp Saturn conjunct his n Juno 1°19 a

my tp Vertex conjunct his n Saturn 0°47a
my tp Vertex conjunct his n DESC 0°35 s
my tp Vertex square his n Sun 1°02 a

my tp MC conjunct his n Sun 1°35 a
my tp MC square his n ASC 0°02 s

his tp Moon square my n Lilith 0°35 a
his tp Uranus square my n Lilith 0°08 a

his tp MC square my n Pluto 0°33 s
his tp Saturn conjunct my n Pluto 0°26 s
his tp Jupiter conjunct my n Pluto 0°32 s
his tp Vertex conjunct my n Pluto 1°02 s
his tp Vertex conjunct my tp Pluto 0°50 a

his tp Juno conjunct my n Uranus 0°25

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posted March 01, 2015 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a little bit of interpretation
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the exact dynamic (4th harmonic) alignment of Sun, Moon and ASC shows that the time was ripe for a significant meeting or event for me.

interestingly my sp Moon was on 00°32 Taurus on my 5th house cusp square sp Sun on 29°59 Capricorn - so I was having a first quarter Moon in both, secondary progression and tertiary progression.
Almost seems like THIS was the month, even the week, when that which was outlined for the year through secondary progression, would be put into motion in exactly THIS month and week.

Since my sp MOon was opposite my n Uranus (0°49 a), it is certainly not a suprise that this development came as a total surprise to me.
n Uranus is on my 11th house cusp natally, of "love received", and the attention I received from him that day/night, totally surprised me, even sent me into a state of shock (I certianly did not know how to deal with that).

Interestingly these 00-01 degrees of fixed signs (in this case Taurus, Scorpio, Aquarius) were reflected in HIS tp Juno on 1 Scorpio and his tp Mars on 2 Aquarius, right on top of our composite ASC on 1 Aquarius.

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the other major feature of my tertiary progressions was of course the fact I had

tp Mars on tp IC (or opposing tp MC) and the tp Vertex squaring it.

tp Mars and tp IC fell into my natal 7th house

equally important of course how they connected with my Sun-Mercury-conjunction right on top of the tp MC.
Mercury seems also important here, as it rules my DESC natally

an important meeting with a man was indicated here, and possibly conversation with all that Gemini/Virgo/Mercury-flair (tp Mars and tp IC in Gemini, tp Vx in Virgo, the aspects to n Mercury).


the Mercurial theme was confirmed through secondary progressions, though not on the same degrees, but it was very interesting to see that I was having

sp Avx 17°56 Aquarius
sp Venus 18°04 Aquarius
sp Mercury 18°02 Aquarius
n Moon 17°06 Aquarius

(my sp Venus conjunct n Moon, sort of mirrored and reflected his sp Sun conjunct n Venus as well)

nevertheless these 17-18 degrees of fixed signs were not supported by the tertiary progressions in my case. (though tp Moon was on 17 Gemini and therefore trine - but that was possibly enough to rouse some awareness, but not enough to anchor it and manifest it strongly, resulting in, I don´t know, a relationship?)


It was also not supported by aspects to HIS chart, neither natally, nor tertiary progressed nor secondary progressed chart.


(his sp Sun conjunct n Venus actually found some kind of reflection in my tertiary Jupiter-Saturn-square tightly aspecting his n Venus - certainly reminiscent of the push-pull-pattern that started then and there, my tp Chiron was also exactly square his Venus, and I experienced some sort of paranoia that evening as well, bringing up a lot of very very old issues, but even then I was pretty aware that these were MY issues, and it was not his fault he triggered these oldish pattern of insecurity in me.)


anyway so the tp Mars-tp IC-tpVertex in relation to my n Sun-Merucry and tp Mars in my n 7th house - potential of meeting a man (and this man seemed so familiar to me, it was as if meeting a very distant cousin or other family member, you used to see often, but somehow forgot he existed, until meeting again, which brought up the very strong feeling of familiarity - might be the IC-connection there).


Why it had to be him and not someone else that night, or actually why he was apt to bring that to the foreground, well it is easy to see how strongly this progressed scenario in my chart, combined to one of the major patterns in his natal chart, namely his Saturn-DESC-conjunction squaring his Sun, aligning with my progressed chart such that my tp MC fell onto his n Sun and my tp Vertex onto his n Saturn-DESC.

Those were just the tight aspects, with an orb of a bit more than 2 degrees, his n Moon-MC-conjunction was involved in it as well.

So in a way, my tp Mars and tp MC was bringing our natal synastric Sun/Moon/MC(his) conjunct Sun/Mercury(mine) to the foreground.

Of course since there is always something to kill the ease, his n Saturn squaring this stellium was brought about, too. (seems I was not the only one having issues ).

In fact even the tertiaries support these issues by the respective dynamic aspect of saturn to Venus (his) and Mars (mine).

another thing I notice, while my tp Saturn opposed his n Venus, my n Uranus squared his tp Mars.

and vice versa

his n Saturn squared my tp Mars, and his n Uranus squared my tp Venus.

Apart from the fact that it was more about my progressions and his natals, the interplay of Saturn and Uranus with the genderplanets can easily be seen.

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posted March 01, 2015 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For him - apart from what I already pointed out - one of the major features in the first meeting progressions was the Sun-MC-conjunction in the teriaries, since Sun rules his 6th house natally, it seems to me just logical how it was connected to his profession, and yes of course we did meet after a performance;
but for him generally speaking this would be a time when his status, career and so on was prominent.

Apart from that I consider his exact conjunction of Moon-Uranus in the tertiaries interesting. Moon rules his 5th house, so it seems there was some surprising event connected to creativity or even to a romantic spark happening for him, and since the tp Moon moves so quickly it was THAT week in may, even those two days.

It also reminds me to look at his secondary progressions and there we see

sp DESC conjunct n Uranus on 23 Scorpio (0°12 a) - so this seems to support the theme of tp Moon-Uranus-conjunction, a very surprising encounter taking place (and taking place on the ground of his natal 8th house btw)

Interestingly his sp Moon was on 12°50 Capricorn, still a year away from a pr New Moon.
However it was just conjunct his tp Sun (and tp Mercury as DESC-ruler) under one degree.


his tp Pluto was exactly conjunct Lilith in his intercepted natal 7th house - and that seems to interrelate with his tp Moon-uranus being squaring his n Lilith as well.
A definite Lilithian theme so to speak.
And funny enough I do qualify - astrologically - as Lilith to him.

Not only is my Lilith and Moon in Aquarius and my Moon is parallel Uranus and contraparallel Pluto (his Moon is parallel Uranus as well) so lunar symbolism is connected to the vibration of Uranus and Pluto for me (and it was so for him that night as well, with Moon-Uranus-conjunction in Scorpio alone).

But we also share an exact opposition of our Black Moons (and this one seems to always raise her heads on more intense encounters we shared, it is too reliably to ignore it).


Apart from that at that time he was also having an exact conjunction of Pluto and Vertex in the secondary progressions (so relating to the year in question) in his natal 7th house and squaring his sp Juno in 5th house exactly.

First of all that reminded me how involved my Pluto seemed to be with his tertiary progressions including a close conjunction of my Pluto to his tp Vertex.
(I suppose with Pluto being ruler of my 12th house, it was easy to disappear again for me. lol)


Interestingly however that his sp Juno was exactly conjunct my n Vertex and Sun/Moon-mp in my 8th house.
and of course his sp Vertex probably emphasized the fact some more that his n Pluto square my Vertex and Sun/Moon-mp.

Nevertheless I did not mention it but my own tp Black Moon was on 22 ARies and hence opposing his Pluto, so the Lilith thing definitely was part of the equation.


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quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Lavender,

while in the secondary progressions one day in the ephemeris equals one year of your life, in tertiary progressions one day in the ephemeris equals one month of your life.

Hence the secondaries are the yearly progressions (related to the Sun) and the tertiaries the monthly (related to the Moon).

Now what does that mean for the calculation?

It means that the tertiary progressed Moon will move as many degrees as he has moved on that day that symbolizes your progressions for that date.

For example.

This month (for me) is equated with the 7th june 1976.

On that day the moon moved from 9°35 Libra to 24°02 Libra.
That means that my tertiary progressed Moon is moving the same amount of degrees in the current month.

Unfortunately astro.com only gives you the starting degree of the tertiary pr Moon on the very first day of your current month. Hence you have to calculate manually where it really is if you inquire about a day somewhen during the month.

The Moon approximately moves half a degree in one day (of the month), one degree in 2 days.

However that is a VERY rough figure;
if you want to calculate it more exactly, you will have to see how many days are in your month. I`d say about 28 or 29.

You also have to calculate the degrees and maybe minutes your Moon moved in that month.

In my case 15 degrees or 15x60 minutes.
If I divide the degrees of the Moon`s motion by the days in the month, I know how many minutes or degrees the Moon moved on one day.

In my case a bit more than half a degree I think.

And if I want to know about the 20th day in that month I will have to multiply that figure (of how many minutes the Moon moves at ONE day) with 20, and add the result to the degree astro.com lists for the Moon.

Or I just type it into solar fire and let them do the calculation for me.

As for the angles, that is an interesting thing. For some reason astrologers seeemed to have agreed to NOT take the real progressed angles, but apply the solar motion to them. Hence they move exactly as quickly as the progressed Sun, which is about one degree in any given year, and in the case of the tertiaries that means the angles will move just ONE degree in ONE month.


Thanks for clarifying Ceri!

I *think* I get it now.

So then my tp. Moon for 20th October, 2014 would be Taurus 28'49 right?

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posted March 02, 2015 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange,

when your relationship started, beside the tertiary progressions, did you also have significant progressions involving

sp and n angles, sp and n Sun and n Moon, maybe Venus and/or ruler of natal DESC? Possibly also the nodal axis?

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posted March 02, 2015 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lavender,

I can look it up when I am home.

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posted March 02, 2015 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Orange,

when your relationship started, beside the tertiary progressions, did you also have significant progressions involving

sp and n angles, sp and n Sun and n Moon, maybe Venus and/or ruler of natal DESC? Possibly also the nodal axis?


Ceri,

progressions weren't too much, I think

However, progressed Moon was the time trigger - mine was at 7'30 Capricorn, which is the degree of his natal DSC - 7' Capricorn. So my prog Moon conjuncted his DSC.

His progressed Moon was exactly on my natal Neptune, which is my chart ruler ( pisces rising)

also, my progressed ASC was 18' Taurus, and his progressed Sun was 18' Taurus at the time. They are still conjunct currently.

I think that's it. We didn't have Venus to Sun or Mars in the progressions. But we have them in our reg synastry ( DW Sun-Venus opposition at 0 degree). Oh, we have a Venus-Sun opposition in the progression approaching soon - his prog Sun is now 19' Taurus, my prog Venus is 22' Scorpio.

Transits were strong at the onset, though. Our synastrical Sun-Venus opposition was affected once again. TR Uranus was conj his Sun and opposing my Venus.
AND TR Nodes were crossing our opposition too - TR North Node was on my Venus and his Saturn (ruler of his 7th house), TR South Node was on his Sun.

On that day, there was a Venus-Jupiter-Valentine conjunction at 7' Leo, which trined exactly my natal Chiron at 8' Aries, supposedly a double Cindarela time - (tr venus to chiron and tr Jupiter to chiron)

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posted March 02, 2015 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Thanks for clarifying Ceri!

I *think* I get it now.

So then my tp. Moon for 20th October, 2014 would be Taurus 28'49 right?


No, Moon was 23°00 Taurus, at least according to solar fire.

Interestingly you had a conjunction of tp Venus to tp ASC. (29th april 2014) on 5 Taurus

and tp Moon was applyng to opposition of nPluto. (27th october)

a new moon a month later on 24th november on 7 Gemini (my DESC . lol)

tp Uranus on tp MC on 14th december - sounds like quite some upheaval and change thre


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posted March 03, 2015 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange,

just been thinking, that while tertiary progressions and secondary progressed MOon are amazing triggers and pinpointing certain times, I hesitate to think they "suffice" to bring a relationship into one`s life WITHOUT the accompanying synastry being triggered by strong transits (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, nodal axis) and/ or underlying secondary progressions that cover a longer timeframe.


"However, progressed Moon was the time trigger - mine was at 7'30 Capricorn, which is the degree of his natal DSC - 7' Capricorn. So my prog Moon conjuncted his DSC."
I think that is very significant, but could only result in a relationship because of other things going on.

"also, my progressed ASC was 18' Taurus, and his progressed Sun was 18' Taurus at the time. They are still conjunct currently."
THIS I feel was the MAJOR link.

"We didn't have Venus to Sun or Mars in the progressions."
I am a tad different in what I expect to see in progressed synastry. While I find these very romantic interesting, I do expect to find strong aspects involving the Sun and angles, which can set things in motion. Of course you have to check WHAT is being set in motion.

" But we have them in our reg synastry ( DW Sun-Venus opposition at 0 degree). Oh, we have a Venus-Sun opposition in the progression approaching soon -"
And I suppose that i what was being set in motion, the confirmation of the natal aspect in progressions is quite interesting too

" his prog Sun is now 19' Taurus, my prog Venus is 22' Scorpio."
Is your Venus moving more slowly than his Sun?

"Transits were strong at the onset, though. Our synastrical Sun-Venus opposition was affected once again. TR Uranus was conj his Sun and opposing my Venus.
AND TR Nodes were crossing our opposition too - TR North Node was on my Venus and his Saturn (ruler of his 7th house), TR South Node was on his Sun."
Yes that confirms my theory, too.


Aries, supposedly a double Cindarela time - (tr venus to chiron and tr Jupiter to Ahchiron)"

Ah nice.

Using Magi terminology I must be rather sexy at the moment, with Tr Chiron conjunct n Juno. Also Tr Jupiter will eventually trine my n Chiron on 20 Aries, so that would make for a Cinderella aspect as well. Well we will see.

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posted March 04, 2015 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Personally I think you need to start with your own progressions before comparing to anyone else`s.


Secondary is the normal progressed chart, yes.

if you compare, I would keep the orbs at 1 degree max, and especially check

- the angles, including Vertex
- Sun and Moon
- possibly Venus (and Mars)
- ruler of 1st, 7th, 5th and 8th (for relationships esp.)

only conjunction, square and opposition under 1 degree are energetic enough to produce events.

the tp Moon has to first be checked, as this is the ticking of our clock. If it is going over an angle, especially a natal one, this will herald a very significant time that needs to be analyzed in more depth.

If the tp Moon does not produce any aspects under 1 degree orb, I doubt anything significant will take place.


As you can see in Orange`s case, at the outset of relationship they BOTH had tp Moon crossing an angle. And then of course the other aspects added to that.


Thanks for your response Ceridwen!

On a quick glance..
In my tp chart, tMoon exactly conjunct tpVx today - not sure if this is of any significance...

In his tp chart, his tpMoon exactly conjuncts tSN at the moment, tMars is conjunting too..

Again not sure if these are indicators for anything.. :/ I wish they were!!!

He's hijacked my mind and I hate it!!

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posted March 04, 2015 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Thanks for your response Ceridwen!

On a quick glance..
In my tp chart, tMoon exactly conjunct tpVx today - not sure if this is of any significance...

In his tp chart, his tpMoon exactly conjuncts tSN at the moment, tMars is conjunting too..

Again not sure if these are indicators for anything.. :/ I wish they were!!!

He's hijacked my mind and I hate it!!


I'll look further into it

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posted March 04, 2015 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
I'll look further into it

We both share the same tp 1st, 5th, 7th, and 8th signs.. so that means same rulers apply to both of us right?

I don't see much else going on in my tp chart but in his tp chart:

- tSaturn (tp 1st ruler) on tpMercury (his natal sun ruler & tp 5th ruler)
- and not sure if this is relevant but tSun opposite his natal Sun.

Oh, Asteroid Union is right on my tpMC... C'mon universe! I'm ready for something to happen!!


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posted March 21, 2015 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cer,

Cosmitech states that Sun-Venus conjunction in the tertiary results in a marriage.

http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/CosmiTecs_Love_L etter-love-letter-072.html

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