posted March 08, 2015 04:31 AM            

If it turns out later that you have challenges, then look to the synastry to see why things might be happening then put them into perspective.

posted March 08, 2015 05:55 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Considering I met and married my x husband before I knew anything about synastry and we have crap synastry but a great marriage, I hesitate to put too much weight on synastry. I think you could very well be missing out on a very good thing.

If it turns out later that you have challenges, then look to the synastry to see why things might be happening then put them into perspective.

I looked at the synastry between me and the guy I'm dating now and I regret that now. It put ideas in my head about how things should/would/could play out and it put me on guard when I should have just been open to whatever might come or not.

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well said. sometimes you can mess things up by not taking a chance with someone based on synastry alone! how awful. i'm glad i havent yet done that.

posted March 08, 2015 10:23 AM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Ok, but come on you guys mean to tell me if you met a guy/girl and got their deets and discovered you guys had a bunch of Uranus DW (I'm talking opps and squares) in syanstry, you wouldn't at least give it a second thought? I mean I guess if a person is ok with something being short lived than by all means go for it. But if you're like me and ready for something more stable it may just stop you in your tracks, just saying.

I'm not afraid of hard aspects when it comes to other planets, just Uranus in particular because I know first hand how it plays out sometimes in relationships (Aquarius descendant right here) and I'd like to avoid having to constantly start over from scratch all the time.

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posted March 08, 2015 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
My Scorpio stellium & two most dominant elements (fixed & water) in my chart can't deal with this.

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That`s the point. YOU can`t deal with it, mostly because of your natal makeup.

I on the other hand with Moon in Aquarius, a maverick Uranus running away with my chart, a lot of Sagittarius and jupiter energy, simply THRIVE on it.

Same for my parents, usually I would not be that charmed by finding a Moon-Uranus square and a Mars-Uranus-square.
But in their instance there are 4 factors (at least) that have to be taken into account.

4. Each one contributes one Uranus
3. Strong Saturn synastry (to Venus and Mars mostly)
2. Strong personal planet aspects (including Sun-Moon, Venus-ASC)

1. their natal vibes with Uranus, my Dad having Sun, Venus, Jupiter in Aquarius. My Mum having Uranus on the ASC.

What would be much more detrimental to them would be adverse Neptune-synastry. Which except for a square to Mercury, they don`t have.

Neptune could be a problem for them even though it rules my Dad`s DESC and hence represents some sort of appeal to him, but it could be a problem because:

1. neither of them has strong Neptune-aspects to relationship planets, 12th house or Pisces placements (though my Dad has Mars widely conjunct Neptune, but it is not on the forefront)

2. they have a lot of fixed energy in terms of the luminaries and their mutable energy they bring is soley residing in Virgo

3. actually there could have been some sort of chemistry for each of one with a Neptunian person, due to Virgo being attracted to its polar opposite but well, since there is no real resonance with Neptune, it would have been just temporary anyway.

With their earthy Moons, Sun in Scorpio and Aquarius the Neptunian energy is just too vague and confusing and disconcerting for both of them.

In fact I bring the Neptunian vibration into the family (and my youngest brother does so to), and it`s nothing either my Dad or Mom could ever understand or work with. This would of course be worsened if a respective partner would bring them this energy.

posted March 08, 2015 11:29 AM            

This was really interesting Ceridwen. Your whole post was.

posted March 08, 2015 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
control freakdom!

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posted March 08, 2015 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That`s the point. YOU can`t deal with it, mostly because of your natal makeup.

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Exactly this! I often read people talking about how this and that is bad and I think "hey, that sounds amazing".

So what works for you might not work for me and vice versa.

posted March 09, 2015 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
This is the only deal-breaker for me when looking at synastry charts.. Everything is manageable.. Unless a ton of hard neptune aspects were present.. but Uranus is the #1 and only deal-breaker. Everything else I can overlook but that uranus is nasty one (the hard aspects). I've never seen it create anything, but distance, coldness, and confusion & the Uranus person is usually the dominant one & since they need space from you anyway, leaving would only enhance their attraction to you. See the irony? The only way to keep a Uranian-themed relationship, is to let it go. My Scorpio stellium & two most dominant elements (fixed & water) in my chart can't deal with this. I do have moon-square uranus natally & I find that some sextiles and trines between mercury/venus-uranus allows that excitement to grow, but it's actually the stable kind!

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I have a four-planet Aquarius stellium and nothing freaks me out like hard Uranus aspects. Nothing. Whenever I see a Venus-Uranus conjunction in a guy's natal I want to run screaming in the opposite direction. My current guy has Uranus-Venus sextile at 0 degrees and even THAT makes me nervous, but I rationalized that it's needed for balance and to let him take his foot off the gas pedal a little since he is soooo fixed (Scorpio sun and ascendant, Taurus moon), and could potentially be overly possessive otherwise.

posted March 09, 2015 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

are there really people, and in particular women, who want a guy who is unstable, unreliable and won't commit to them? Really??

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1. Yes.

posted March 09, 2015 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Lovely analysis, Ceri, for your parents!

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posted March 09, 2015 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Lovely analysis, Ceri, for your parents!

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posted March 09, 2015 10:20 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:

Don't worry too much about dinner. If you were like, yeah let's do it next week, I'd get scared. You and your Cancer Leo are who I want to talk about.

I actually hear you describing beautiful aspects between two people. Sun (sign) opposite Moon (sign). And maybe Venus trine Venus. I've never experienced Venus trine Venus (not that I was aware of), but your love natures are compatible, you speak the same love language. Now Sun opposite Moon, that's what I heard you describing when you talked about your Cancer Leo intuiting your emotions. Kapiel Raaj says Cancer is first understanding of emotion. Intense expression of emotion happens a lot, but it's important to know the primary work of cancer where emotion is concerned. Cancer has understanding of emotion.

I would think your steady Moon gave her water some grounding, especially while she was trapped in nyc. And she was able to understand you very well, and respect who you are.

[b]But with her, if there was a touchy subject brought up, or an answer she gave me I did not like something about her emotional intuitiveness stopped me from processing. I couldn't hide the emotion and I couldn't process. I was still quiet and reserved as usual but it could be felt in the air and we usually had to sit quietly and indulge in it until I spoke again. She knew talking about emotions isn't an option but it did have to pass.

I visualize you you two sitting silently. I know how I've felt about Cap Suns (no Moons yet). They are very serious, and look strong. But one Cap Sun needed someone like me who could break down his walls, in a way that didn't leave him feeling like he was being invaded. He wasn't going to take them down himself, but he wanted to be understood, and to share intimacy.

I feel very nurturing toward Cap, and though I like to let my partner take the lead in romantic relationships Capricorn can bring out the aggressive protector (and nurturer) in me. Your Cancer Leo probably felt very nurturing towards you, and protective of your needs. When I have sensed Capricorn's guarded vulnerability (and strength) I have felt privileged, and responsible for him. What you two share/d sounds like love.

Btw, you did a lot for her too. I know how it goes.

I'll add that it's also the way you speak about her. [/B]

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The Sun-Moon opposition is actually not within the degree of orb, but I personally count sign aspects. I think orbs are important but not everything. She's still a Cancer Sun, and I'm still a Capricorn Moon. That's going to play out how it naturally plays out no matter the orb. Orbs do add intensity so I don't want to discount them but they're not everything.

We do have Venus trine Venus at about a degree with her Mars conjunct my Venus exact. I'm very impressed! Good job

It is certainly love. We have said it. It was a new kind for me. None of that heavy, messy, Scorpio/Pluto kind of love I felt before. It felt more like an airy kind of love. Very rooted in acceptance and appreciation.

Yes you're right it was a lot of mutual support. She knows (and it has been proven) that if she finds herself in trouble she can pretty much rely on me to come through like a storm no matter the place or circumstance. She's a tough cookie in her own right but I like that role.

The way you describe your feelings toward Capricorns makes me want to share something with you. You might find it interesting. It certainly described my experience with her -

posted March 09, 2015 10:53 PM            

I could relate to everything said about 4 in that interaction, and I could see how 4 would be attracted to and wrapped up in 8. I never got to play with all that passion and intensity. I think it makes a difference that the Cap that I was involved with was a Cap Sun. Before we were very close it was his Cap Sun nature that I fell in love with (it was a traditional courtship, so you can fall in love with little), but (after we got together) I think his Aqua Moon trumped his Sun when it came to "passions". He would fight in ways I couldn't even understand. I think I would enjoy fighting with an 8, lol.

That same Vedic astrologer that I mentioned earlier says the same thing about orbs and aspects. Orbs are important, but when considering the "lights" (luminaries) you can just compare and evaluate by sign especially with oppositions. Every time he describes a moon he also mentions the 7th from that moon's sign, and states that the moon is naturally going to be attracted to a luminary (sun or moon) in that sign, and sometimes sun opposite moon is better than moon opposite moon. Like a Taurus Moon may want a Scorpio Moon, but will find a Scorpio Sun meeting all her needs, with less complication and friction as with Scorpio Moon.

I can't take credit for the venus trine venus guess. I have to admit; that you told me her Venus was in Gemini. I know where your Venus is, so if they did aspect it would be a trine. That part was easy. The way you talk about her, like you are both actually quite compatible, made me think that it was actually a trine. I wasn't so sure about the Sun and Moon, but like I said above, it doesn't really matter if Sun and Moon aspect each other with sign opposition, though of course an aspect would intensify the experience.

"love...rooted in acceptance and appreciation"

It's nice that 4 & 8 are so similar in their proud and passionate natures, and their need for independence. This compatibility of strength is what's always missing for me. When i talk about strength I don't mean the person who wins arguments or anything like that. I mean the person who has a sense of self.

That Vedic astrologer talks about the curse of Leo Asc. Leo Asc attracts partners who think the Leo will benefit them in some way. It's true. I attract men who are older (younger now too, since I turned 30), or hold higher social status (I'm not a queen yet), or who have better education than I have, but I always find out that they don't really love me (they think they do). They are attracted to me and want to possess me like a resource for their purposes.

8 has his own sense of purpose it seems. I'm sure 8 and 4 can work as a team (and it's exciting to be part of a dynamic duo), but it's important to know that 8 can love 4, for himself (as his own, intimately).

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Originally posted by Koho:
Astrology came up at work today cause someone noticed the entire office consisted of Virgos and Scorpios and she's a Cancer. But it was superficial so I only made mild comments. Everyone's into their Sun Sign astrology though.

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posted March 10, 2015 12:50 PM            

For me those Uranian qualities play out as wanting to have a stable committed relationship BUT having the freedom to do my own thing and just be alone sometimes. Basically like me and my love can be in the same room and not interacting and just do what we enjoy together..but separate lol if that makes sense. I like that. I'm not very domestic and cuddly and like my space on my side of the bed. I'm not very affection either.

BUT that unstable on/off crap or quick two second flings drive me crazy and I try to avoid it. UNLESS that's what I'm in the mood for. But at the present time I am wanting something more stable.

I often find too with my Uranian descendant I'm attracted to people who are different from me (meaning race).

posted March 11, 2015 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

I mean, I know context is everything but... are there really people, and in particular women, who want a guy who is unstable, unreliable and won't commit to them? Really??

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But the point is they aren't ALL like that.

My friend has Venus sq Uranus (4) and it was his wife who left him after 12 years. I'm not saying he did nothing wrong. But he was committed and (according to his side of the story) asked her to work on the marriage and she just left.

He's also hardly unrealiable nor unstable. He's a Taurus sun after all. LOL.

Ok, Ok, having said all that I will also say that I will never again date another Cancer sun, ever!!

When we say context it is also related to our own preferences, as well.

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About the original question.

I looked at our synastry right after he gave me his birth time. I wanted to see the possible struggles. I didn't put a lot of weight on it though coz I was new to astrology, I wanted just to be aware of the possibilities and to see how things might go.

Some aspects such as Mars oppose saturn, uranus squares, neptune squares made me go hmmm when I first looked at our synastry... But then I thought well since we have those energies in our natals we would be able to handle them. And I agree that they can manifest in many ways.