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Topic: Does good synastry guarantee interest?
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 6012 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 13, 2015 01:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by LexusVirgo: His Uranus opposes his moo. So will he feel it?
Yes, esp if it's a tight aspect. To the moon it could feel awesome or overwhelming depending on the moon sign. Not all moons like to be electrified, an aries moon might love it but a virgo or pisces moon might need just a little time to acclimate to the intensity. I don't think it will be too much of an issue though because they are already used to Uranus stimulating them emotionally, because in their life anything that touches their moon touches their Uranus. They are a stressor on each other but the chart owner doesn't know anything different...they live the balancing act everyday. IP: Logged |
Liliya Knowflake Posts: 1127 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted April 13, 2015 01:28 PM
I had too many amazing synastries with zero attraction to believe in this theory. There is something else that contributes to attraction, apart from Astrology. I know a guy, he's actually my hubbies friend, who's his astro twin. Zero attraction. He's actually quite unatractive for me.
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 607 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted April 13, 2015 01:41 PM
Well said, Pretty Theft.EmGem, the orbs for parallels and contra-parallels in synastry need to be tightened a bit just as with longitude aspects. That means we go from an average of 1* or so to about 0*45' (3/4*). For luminaries 1* is fine I think in synastry. ------------------ Professional Astrology, Expert Rectification Complete Rising Sign Descriptions IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 543 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted April 13, 2015 01:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Well said, Pretty Theft.EmGem, the orbs for parallels and contra-parallels in synastry need to be tightened a bit just as with longitude aspects. That means we go from an average of 1* or so to about 0*45' (3/4*). For luminaries 1* is fine I think in synastry.
Are you saying that declineations are important for guaranteed interest?? I see declineations like normal synastry aspects we always check. I think declineation will add more linkages of energy between two individuals. It is still hard for me to believe that good synastry will guarantee some sort of a (good) outcome (from my experience obv...) because I suppose if you give someone a chance loooong enough, perhaps the relationship will happen naturally and hence yes, good synastry probably contributes to forming a relationship successfully. However, how long should I wait... how long will it take for us to be committed...? The chances are I may give up and move on to someone else the longer it takes... Then the good synastry does not seem like it guarantees anything..
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18753 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 13, 2015 02:28 PM
There are no guarantees. Well the guarantee here is that the astrological energies will mesh, but that is a long shot from getting a relationship off the ground. There will be an internal response to each other (whatever that may be - and honestly, what even constitutes "good synastry"? The longer I do astrology the more I come to see that while there are some general markers, the individual needs take precedence, so what could be good synastry for me, might be a nightmare for someone else; it`s not about good synastry really, but about the right synastry for each participant) but having an internal response, getting someones attention does not say anything about what the other person will do, or how it will manifest. We can make some educated guesses, based on what we observed to often happen with similiar chart make ups, but that`s really it. Educated guesses. No guarantees (in terms of acting).
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astra7 Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 13, 2015 08:33 PM
So what would wake up/trigger the synastry? Is it to do with individual progression (e.g. aspect between Sun-Venus or something aspecting Asc or sun/asc changing sign?) and if there is nothing happening then, it won't? Does the composite sun or the chart ruler need to be triggered?IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 607 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted April 13, 2015 08:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by YellowGerbera: [B] Are you saying that declineations are important for guaranteed interest??
No. Astrology guarantees nothing. Astrology is a starting place, not an outcome. ------------------ Professional Astrology, Expert Rectification Complete Rising Sign Descriptions IP: Logged |
LexusVirgo Knowflake Posts: 282 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted April 13, 2015 09:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Yes, esp if it's a tight aspect. To the moon it could feel awesome or overwhelming depending on the moon sign. Not all moons like to be electrified, an aries moon might love it but a virgo or pisces moon might need just a little time to acclimate to the intensity. I don't think it will be too much of an issue though because they are already used to Uranus stimulating them emotionally, because in their life anything that touches their moon touches their Uranus. They are a stressor on each other but the chart owner doesn't know anything different...they live the balancing act everyday.
His moon is in Gemini so I would think he would love the stimulation. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 3186 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 14, 2015 02:59 AM
No. Nothing is ever a guarantee. IP: Logged |
Lotis White Moderator Posts: 1861 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 14, 2015 04:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: How true do you think synastry charts are? Could you have good synastry with someone but they still don't show interest in you? Or is it like an automatic subconscious response?For instance, I have a grand trine with someone I am interested in, and a few other 'good synastry aspects' including a very tight Venus-Uranus trine, (he's Venus, I'm Uranus). We met a few weeks ago and just went on a first date but I can't tell if he's interested or not. I am wondering if the synastry in two people's charts generates/guarantees interest from both people.
Astrololgy is always 'true' but physical attraction interaspects do not always guarantee that an attraction will be felt. A person also needs to be your type before the physical attraction aspects are switched on... And our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses show what our 'type' is. Synastry influencing these houses increase the likelihood that attraction will develop. This includes house ruler aspects and overlays. There are two types of attraction... 1. Physical attraction. Physical attraction is shown by interplanetary synastry in through the traditional physical attraction aspects. Most people on LL are familiar with those… Venus/Mars, Sun/Moon, Moon/Mars, Venus/Uranus, and so on. These types of aspects can make people look good to us on a physical level, but we won’t necessarily see them as our ‘type’ for a long term relationship unless other factors support it. Aspects to the Asc from planets like Venus or Mars can certainly indicate plain old physical attraction as well. 2. Psychological attraction. Psychological attraction shows when people match the traits, style, and characteristics, of our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. That is, our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses combined show the different types of qualities we have the potential to be attracted to, and how we are attracted to them (in a 5th house way, a 7th house way, or an 8th house way). As you know, if our 7th house ruler is in Libra we are often attracted to those with Libra planets. The 5th, 7th, and 8th houses show our ‘type’ for long term love. If someone has a Libra planet actually conjunct our 7th house ruler this makes the psychological attraction to that person even stronger. In fact aspects to our 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers can make us psychologically attracted to someone even if their planets are not in signs we’re usually psychologically attracted to. This is because they can press our buttons and stimulate feelings in us relative to the house ruler that they’re aspecting. Actual aspects to the 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers do seem to have a small bit of physical attraction to them as well… But this seems to be mixed in with a strong psychological attraction, and is not as strong as a traditional interplanetary physical attraction aspect (for actual physical attraction that is). In my view, psychological attraction still needs to be supported by a traditional physical attraction aspects like Venus/Mars or Sun/Moon, and whatnot. That being said, if we have physical attraction aspects, and no psychological attraction connections (5th, 7th, and 8th house overlays, house ruler aspects, and symbolism matches… You have Sun in the 7th and your partner is a Leo), then while the person my look good to you, you won’t be able to imagine yourself marrying them. The conclusion here is that both physical and psychological attraction is needed for a ‘complete’ attraction to develop. We need both. If only one is present it will feel like something is lacking.
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astra7 Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted April 14, 2015 12:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lotis White: Astrololgy is always 'true' but physical attraction interaspects do not always guarantee that an attraction will be felt. A person also needs to be your type before the physical attraction aspects are switched on... And our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses show what our 'type' is. Synastry influencing these houses increase the likelihood that attraction will develop. This includes house ruler aspects and overlays.There are two types of attraction... 1. [b]Physical attraction. Physical attraction is shown by interplanetary synastry in through the traditional physical attraction aspects. Most people on LL are familiar with those… Venus/Mars, Sun/Moon, Moon/Mars, Venus/Uranus, and so on. These types of aspects can make people look good to us on a physical level, but we won’t necessarily see them as our ‘type’ for a long term relationship unless other factors support it. Aspects to the Asc from planets like Venus or Mars can certainly indicate plain old physical attraction as well. 2. Psychological attraction. Psychological attraction shows when people match the traits, style, and characteristics, of our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. That is, our 5th, 7th, and 8th houses combined show the different types of qualities we have the potential to be attracted to, and how we are attracted to them (in a 5th house way, a 7th house way, or an 8th house way). As you know, if our 7th house ruler is in Libra we are often attracted to those with Libra planets. The 5th, 7th, and 8th houses show our ‘type’ for long term love. If someone has a Libra planet actually conjunct our 7th house ruler this makes the psychological attraction to that person even stronger. In fact aspects to our 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers can make us psychologically attracted to someone even if their planets are not in signs we’re usually psychologically attracted to. This is because they can press our buttons and stimulate feelings in us relative to the house ruler that they’re aspecting. Actual aspects to the 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers do seem to have a small bit of physical attraction to them as well… But this seems to be mixed in with a strong psychological attraction, and is not as strong as a traditional interplanetary physical attraction aspect (for actual physical attraction that is). In my view, psychological attraction still needs to be supported by a traditional physical attraction aspects like Venus/Mars or Sun/Moon, and whatnot. That being said, if we have physical attraction aspects, and no psychological attraction connections (5th, 7th, and 8th house overlays, house ruler aspects, and symbolism matches… You have Sun in the 7th and your partner is a Leo), then while the person my look good to you, you won’t be able to imagine yourself marrying them. The conclusion here is that both physical and psychological attraction is needed for a ‘complete’ attraction to develop. We need both. If only one is present it will feel like something is lacking. [/B]
But I thought the point of this thread was about having an excellent synastry but non-starters which means that relationships doesn't start even with the above checks. I can understand that charts are no guarantee and only shows potential, however.IP: Logged |
Iced8Ace Knowflake Posts: 195 From: CA Registered: Aug 2014
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posted April 14, 2015 03:29 PM
When you have something tangible, astrology can be a good tool for understanding the dynamics within your relationship. Otherwise, don't sweat it. You can't fix things to happen if they're unable to be, despite anyone's advice or some concept of fate. IP: Logged | |