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Topic: Does good synastry guarantee interest?
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polkadotstars
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posted April 12, 2015 07:19 PM
  
How true do you think synastry charts are? Could you have good synastry with someone but they still don't show interest in you? Or is it like an automatic subconscious response?For instance, I have a grand trine with someone I am interested in, and a few other 'good synastry aspects' including a very tight Venus-Uranus trine, (he's Venus, I'm Uranus). We met a few weeks ago and just went on a first date but I can't tell if he's interested or not. I am wondering if the synastry in two people's charts generates/guarantees interest from both people. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 12, 2015 07:29 PM
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Odette
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posted April 12, 2015 07:36 PM
No...It doesn't guarantee interest.There are particular karmic signs in synastry --- like having very close aspects (both planets on the exact *same* degree) - exact Nodal aspects, some significant asteroid-aspects (Karma, Amor, Valentine, Vesta, Ceres etc), exact Saturn aspects and most importantly the AC/DC, MC/IC and Vertex/Anti-Vertex axes connections, plus Draconic chart connections. All of this can be too much for mere coincidence! When you meet a person with such aspects - what the synastry guarantees is that there is a tie between you and it's not a tie that will easily break. But there is still no guarantee that your connection will be romantic. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted April 12, 2015 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I would say Yes
I didn't see your reply before I posted mine 
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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 12, 2015 08:24 PM
How true do you think synastry charts are?
They are as true as their full inclusiveness of all inter-aspects. Full synastry analysis must include the parallel and contra-parallel aspects of the declinations. I'm one of very few astrologers who does this for every single synastry.Could you have good synastry with someone but they still don't show interest in you?
Of course. I am wondering if the synastry in two people's charts generates/guarantees interest from both people.
No. The example you used of the synastry trines is not an aspect that has a strong push to develop a relationship. The best chances of something developing happen with those aspects that put your planets with the other persons' in a unity dynamic: conjunctions and parallels. Then come trines, sextiles, and yes oppositions (and squares). What makes a good synastry is:
1) A clear majority of the total synastry aspects are relationally positive.
2) Enough Asc/Moon/Sun bonds with Merc/Venus/Jupiter.
3) Some good Mercury aspects for communication and common interests. Astrology guarantees nothing -- especially when it involves another person/other people. It shows only potentials. ------------------
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LexusVirgo
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posted April 12, 2015 10:18 PM
I am the Venus in a Venus tribe Uranus and I'm very attracted to him. Don 't know if he feels the same though.IP: Logged |
Marandana
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posted April 12, 2015 10:19 PM
Probably you will think I'm mad, but.. everytime, before I introduce a friend with another friend, I check their synastry first to know if they will get along or not, and it totally ends up like the synastry showed me.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 12, 2015 10:22 PM
That is OK, Odette lolGreat minds can disagree! I think that aspects for attraction WILL be attracted. I think aspects for best friends will feel like best friends. I like aspects for soul bonding will feel soul bonding. I think I can look at a synastry and give a history to the people of how it went. I have done that with several of my clients. I told them the history of the relationship by looking at the synastry. Maybe, one could not do this in all synastries because some are not clear enough but the few in which I did it were right on lol ------------------
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Randall
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posted April 12, 2015 10:22 PM
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology. IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted April 12, 2015 11:47 PM
don't progressions and transits come into play too?
the timing may just not be right for one or the other.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 13, 2015 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by EmGem:
don't progressions and transits come into play too?
the timing may just not be right for one or the other.
I would say these are secondary to the actual chart placements imo, anyway.
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Gabby
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posted April 13, 2015 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
I am the Venus in a Venus tribe Uranus and I'm very attracted to him. Don 't know if he feels the same though.
Venus in synastry will feel it sooner than Uranus since Venus is much more personal planet, it gets inside you much easier and faster.
Depending on how his Uranus is aspected it might take awhile if his Uranus does not touch his more personal planets tightly. My Uranus does not tightly aspect my more personal planets, it's only aspects are a square my Saturn and it makes a distant trine to my Mars.
I'm not going to feel a soft aspect to my Uranus immediately because Uranus does not touch me in my chart in a very personally way.
Now if they have something that tightly conjunct it or are in hard aspect to my Uranus I will feel quickly...because the hard aspect is like a punch in the stomache but a soft aspect will be felt less intensely/harshly, so it might take more time.
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Pretty Theft
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posted April 13, 2015 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I am wondering if the synastry in two people's charts generates/guarantees interest from both people.
No. It doesn't. You can have amazing synastry with a really old guy in a nursing home, for instance. Other things need to be in play. Astrology does not make things happen. I cannot stress this enough. All astrology does is show you the things that are. You may adore this (theoretical) old man, but it does not mean that he is your soul mate. If you wanted an analogy, say, let's bring up a watch. Your watch tells you that it's 7pm and that's when the sun goes down. Your watch does not make the sun go down. It just tells you when it does. Free will is paramount. You may have Venus conjunct someone's sun, but it does not mean much beyond love for that person -- if that is the relationship you have. Remember that when Pluto aspects come into play. If Pluto was really so catastrophic, you would have devastating interactions with everyone who was in that generation, which just doesn't always happen. Always consider the whole chart. This is why astrology is so complicated. IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted April 13, 2015 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by Pretty Theft:
You can have amazing synastry with a really old guy in a nursing home, for instance.
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Lioness
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posted April 13, 2015 01:40 AM
I have a male friend, I've known him 20 years. I can't say for sure, but I do think he has an interest for me, I however how no romantic interest. He's just not my type of guy. He's ok as a friend, he kinda annoys me at times, but I'm not attracted to him at all. His sun is conjunct my Venus. I forget what else, but there are sexual attraction aspects, but I don't feel it at all..
I'm not sure what makes a sexual attraction just not felt from one person. Maybe it's just life / personal experiences.
Things that astrology just can't explain. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted April 13, 2015 02:16 AM
Hey Miss Polkadot! I wish there is that guarantee too... Currently on the same boat with you!!! Sigh.. Strong synastry and nothing happening. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted April 13, 2015 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
That is OK, Odette lolGreat minds can disagree! I think that aspects for attraction WILL be attracted. I think aspects for best friends will feel like best friends. I like aspects for soul bonding will feel soul bonding. I think I can look at a synastry and give a history to the people of how it went. I have done that with several of my clients. I told them the history of the relationship by looking at the synastry. Maybe, one could not do this in all synastries because some are not clear enough but the few in which I did it were right on lol
So lucky they found each other!
I haven't been so lucky..  IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted April 13, 2015 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Full synastry analysis must include the parallel and contra-parallel aspects of the declinations. I'm one of very few astrologers who does this for every single synastry.
Kannon what's the max orb you use for declinations in synastry? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted April 13, 2015 04:15 AM
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polkadotstars
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posted April 13, 2015 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Venus in synastry will feel it sooner than Uranus since Venus is much more personal planet, it gets inside you much easier and faster.
Depending on how his Uranus is aspected it might take awhile if his Uranus does not touch his more personal planets tightly. My Uranus does not tightly aspect my more personal planets, it's only aspects are a square my Saturn and it makes a distant trine to my Mars.
I'm not going to feel a soft aspect to my Uranus immediately because Uranus does not touch me in my chart in a very personally way.
Now if they have something that tightly conjunct it or are in hard aspect to my Uranus I will feel quickly...because the hard aspect is like a punch in the stomache but a soft aspect will be felt less intensely/harshly, so it might take more time.
Interesting! He only has a Sun trine Uranus 4' orb and his Uranus trines his Midheaven at a 2' orb. So you would only see what his Uranus is like in his chart and not Venus?
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LexusVirgo
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posted April 13, 2015 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Venus in synastry will feel it sooner than Uranus since Venus is much more personal planet, it gets inside you much easier and faster.
Depending on how his Uranus is aspected it might take awhile if his Uranus does not touch his more personal planets tightly. My Uranus does not tightly aspect my more personal planets, it's only aspects are a square my Saturn and it makes a distant trine to my Mars.
His Uranus opposes his moon in tight orb will he feel it?
I'm not going to feel a soft aspect to my Uranus immediately because Uranus does not touch me in my chart in a very personally way.
Now if they have something that tightly conjunct it or are in hard aspect to my Uranus I will feel quickly...because the hard aspect is like a punch in the stomache but a soft aspect will be felt less intensely/harshly, so it might take more time.
His Uranus opposes his moo. So will he feel it?
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Ceridwen
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posted April 13, 2015 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by EmGem:
don't progressions and transits come into play too?
the timing may just not be right for one or the other.
That`s exactly the thing. You can have the best synastry if nothing triggers it it just stays a good idea. On the other hand if you have strong progressions you want to make sure you have a strong natal synastry as well, or it will be just a very very temporary thing. (I do believe thought that transits of the outer planets, especially dynamic ones, can kickstart a natal synastry, but I am not completely sold on that, just think it is very likely) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted April 13, 2015 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Astrological charts REFLECT reality, rather than generate it.
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Ami Anne
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posted April 13, 2015 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Astrological charts REFLECT reality, rather than generate it.
Agree  ------------------
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Gabby
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posted April 13, 2015 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Interesting! He only has a Sun trine Uranus 4' orb and his Uranus trines his Midheaven at a 2' orb. So you would only see what his Uranus is like in his chart and not Venus?
If I'm understanding what your asking...he will feel it but not with the intensity of a hard aspect, so not the jolt of electricity that Uranus gives in hard aspect. But he will feel it, it just might take a little more time, in the end it will feel more comfortable and natural for him than it would in a hard aspect, so slower in the beginning but gets better and grows as it goes along.
If his Venus doesn't touch his Uranus he won't feel it through the energy of his Venus. But he will feel an ego boost through your love nature/your Venus since it's touching his Uranus which touches his ego/sun. It won't be the instant feeling you are getting through the hard aspect touching your Venus. IP: Logged |
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