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Vajra
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posted May 05, 2015 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 05, 2015 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you define nasty?

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posted May 05, 2015 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:
Awww... I saw what you wrote before the edit, v2t, and liked it, it reminded me of my own maternal grandma who was kinda similar! You're absolutely right, one shouldn't forget what badasses some of these ladies were!

Lol. I've got stories about her. Glad you got to read it and enjoy it. And yup. That was my mama's mama.

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posted May 05, 2015 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How do you define nasty?


The nastiest thing you did til you do something nastier, honey

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Vajra
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posted May 05, 2015 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 05, 2015 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
The nastiest thing you did til you do something nastier, honey

That reply was stupid, wasn't it Ami? I'm using the word to define the word! nm.

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posted May 05, 2015 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I avoid mother's day, as I do most special/holiday, but one day soon we could do a thread dedicated to granny.

Now, back to yummy/nasty.

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posted May 05, 2015 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I doubt my ex and I could because of all that Nessus between us!

23ºGEM'19 | PRIAPUS (35ºN)
23ºGEM'26 | SUN
23ºGEM'36 | NESSUS
24ºGEM'01 | SATURN

20ºGEM'49 | PSYCHE
24ºSCO'57 | MOON
23ºCAP'18 | AMOR

... You were saying? Heh.

Strangely enough, my twin's NESSUS squares my ASC (0º) along with my VENUS (2º). My NESSUS is also conjunct his DEJANIRA (0º).

NESSUS is all in how you use it. And my husband's NESSUS ... erm ... weeeeeeellllll ... we're working on it. Slowly but surely. It's a bit much for my poor PSYCHE, though. That's for sure.

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posted May 05, 2015 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 05, 2015 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
23ºGEM'19 | PRIAPUS (35ºN)
23ºGEM'26 | SUN
23ºGEM'36 | NESSUS
24ºGEM'01 | SATURN

20ºGEM'49 | PSYCHE
24ºSCO'57 | MOON
23ºCAP'18 | AMOR

... You were saying? Heh.

Strangely enough, my twin's NESSUS squares my ASC (0º) along with my VENUS (2º). My NESSUS is also conjunct his DEJANIRA (0º).

NESSUS is all in how you use it. And my husband's NESSUS ... erm ... weeeeeeellllll ... we're working on it. Slowly but surely. It's a bit much for my poor PSYCHE, though. That's for sure.


That's so strange....
My Psyche gem@15
My Dejanira virgo@15
His Nessus gem@15
His Sun gem@18
His Vertex virgo@16

His Mars cancer@5
His Uranus libra@5
My Nessus cancer@3
My Karma libra@5

His Dejanira aries@11
My Pluto libra@11
My Atropos gemini@11

Maybe the Atropos is why it had to end? I could not stand to live in the middle of all that it was just to overwhelming for me, my chart ruler is Venus in my libra 1st house conjunct Pluto....peace is power to me. Stress is my kryptonite, lol!

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posted May 06, 2015 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Well, I'm here to tell all those people who bemoan hard Saturnian aspects in their natal charts that a wonderful sex life is possible if you just wait until your second Saturn return is approaching (and has passed). Not that I had a bad time in my 20s and 30s, but it's a whole lot better now!

Especially with the following in synastry (I'm ignoring most so-called minor aspects and most asteroid pairs, of which we have many):

His Sun square my Pluto (1)
Venus trine Pluto (1)
Mars trine Pluto (2)
Mars opposite Juno (0)

Vesta-Vesta conjunction (1)

My ASC trine his Pluto (0)
Venus quincunx his Mars (1)
Venus trine his Sun (1)
Venus square his Uranus (0) (double whammy; his Venus also squares my Uranus, but much wider at 7)

Not sure all of these directly relate to the sex, but certainly help the relationship which is the bedrock of the sex.

What else would you like me to look at?

Worst (although I loved the guy tremendously) was with someone who was only 2 weeks younger than me.

EDIT for current hot guy: He is an Aries Mars and Venus, Taurus Sun, Capricorn Moon. I'm Virgo Venus, Scorpio Mars, Libra Sun, Pisces Moon.


What do you think happened in the worst case? lack of aspects? certain aspects?

I love to see Saturn, always knew the "old devil" must be the satyr of the zodiac. The dirtiest old man, in a good sense Also, once he warms up, he stays like this... in a priapic state (of mind, of course )

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posted May 06, 2015 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm still wondering what's up in the synastry with my twin that led to our developing -- rather compulsively, actually -- a sexual relationship.

It could be:

NYMPHE conjunct 8H VERTEX (2º)
NYMPHE square sNODES (0º)
NYMPHE square NYMPHE (2º)
EROS quindecile EROS (1º)
5H MOON-EROS-BML-NYMPHE overlaying 8H PRIAPUS
BML conjunct PRIAPUS (0º)

Off of the top of my head. But I've often wondered what creates the compulsion. I think we're both pretty terrible (excellent technically-speaking, but lacking passion and proper emotionality) at it -- but we keep trying.


What are the sexual planetary combinations between you two, you think?

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posted May 06, 2015 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
I'm not the kind of princess in a tower.... I'm almost like Mulan, who goes to the war!!! lol

In Tarot I'm the Queen of Wands...

My 8th house ruler is Mercury,... and it is TOO in the 12th house....

OK, I see... no sex for me, not here in Earth at least!!! "Forever Alone"



What is happening in your 8th house, Dani, and what's the story with the ruler?

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DaniPepper87
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posted May 06, 2015 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just pain... ... Chiron is there!!

Interesting that sexually talking, I always found a strong attraction for those who seems intelligent, even more Gemini guys....


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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What is happening in your 8th house, Dani, and what's the story with the ruler?


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posted May 08, 2015 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What are the sexual planetary combinations between you two, you think?


That's a very good question, Lee.

Sometimes I think that it is compulsive. We don't have a sexual relationship because we're sexual or even enjoy the sex itself; it's almost because of what happens in its absence. We're both very walled-off, excessively polite, proper, and a bit prudish. (All right, more than a bit.) It's about the one time we drop the guard with each other, and when we've neglected to do so, it's very noticeable. We almost become TOO polite with each other. We don't get like total strangers, but more like very warm yet detached friends. We don't touch each other much. We don't kiss each other at all. But sometimes, we'll linger in the parting embrace.

I suppose it could be his T-Square which I add to significantly in certain ways.

His 5H MOON opposite 11H MARS (0°) square 8H MERC (1°). My 2H SUN-PLUTO is then conjunct his MARS (3°-0°), with my 8H PRIAPUS conjunct his MOON (2°), and my 11H NYMPHE conjunct his MERC (1°).

The pattern deepens with his MOON also being conjunct BML, which my PRIAPUS conjoins exactly. His LILITH is also conjunct his MARS (1°) -- which is conjunct my BML conjunct my SUN-PLUTO. And my NYMPHE is conjunct his 8H MARS (1°) and VERTEX (2°), thus squaring his NYMPHE (2°).

It's all very complicated and a bit convoluted. Typically, as navigate the pitfalls rather well. But there get to be times; we both get too preoccupied with work, retreat into ourselves and forget to give each other the attention we both deserve. It can be frustrating.

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posted May 08, 2015 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:
As a fellow 8th House Sun, LeeLoo - do you also experience sex as a form of communication and 'getting to know each other on a deep level'? I don't know how to properly put it into words… what I mean is, there is this whole layer of existence hidden in the physical dimension of our human experience that one can approach during sex…it's what one calls "physical intimacy," but that sounds so technical - whereas to me, this is a way of connecting very deeply with someone, getting to know them inside out (quite literally, ha!), and of opening up, trusting another person with total innocence, handing oneself over, making oneself vulnerable…which can be quite terrifying initially. I can't and won't do that as a kind of sports thing with just about anyone; but with the right person, I can do it any time of the day, every day, and never tire of it. It constantly evolves, too, which is why I never get why people can get "bored" of having sex with the same person over and over again…because to me, it never is quite the same, and can be very different even with the same person, depending on the circumstances. To me it can also be a way of servicing the other, of being generous and selfless, caring and kind, of feeling the other one's joy as one's own - or, of being able and willing to accept a thoughtful gift from the other person. I don't see it as a chore, or as stress-relief - for that one doesn't need the presence of another person, does one? But sex with another person can lead to deep knowing without any words exchanged, to seeing the other in all their uniqueness, devoid of pretensions or camouflage....

I'm talking of "normal" sex here, btw, nothing mystical - the Kundalini-raising variant is a different matter altogether, multiply what I said by 100 in that case and add a few dimensions. Anyway, I really do wonder whether seeing/experiencing it that way is an 8th house thing.


This resonates so much! However, I also have Venus Mars Pluto and Mercury in there Anyway, what happens for me is that I "feel" the entire person, their soul "print" so to speak. Even if I close my eyes and focus on pleasure or even try to think of someone else (which I haven't been able to do, although it seems to be a common female fantasy; I also consider this wrong and dangerous), it doesn't work, I completely feel the merging with the person. So if the person is not what I want or like or someone close on a deep level, one can imagine it's a totally weird experience. I also have a clear and overwhelming perception of the huge energetic exchange happening during sex; if this energy is detrimental, it is strongly felt. Although it is said, astrologically, that people with Pluto in the 8th can actually absorb the other's energy, unconsciously, and use it to regenerate through sex. They can be like a Mantis and it is true, I have experienced that; or they can leave a mark, a distinctive print; I have been told about this too; but it's the lower form of what can happen, for me; it's that exchange that matters, which creates a third entity, like a common energetic bubble, creating an unbreakable bond.

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posted May 09, 2015 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How on earth can anyone 'fantasise' or even imagine someone who isn't there? That's not sex. Sex IS the total merging. It's nothing less. I understand the energetic exchange.

Huh. My PRIAPUS is 8H. I wonder if that's why. PALLAS, too. Though that likely doesn't help.

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posted May 09, 2015 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Semi off-topic:

We both have 8H PALLAS. I've often wondered if this could be indicative of asexuality? As it's the intellectual / non-emotional point in a very sexual house.

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posted May 09, 2015 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:
As a fellow 8th House Sun, LeeLoo - do you also experience sex as a form of communication and 'getting to know each other on a deep level'? I don't know how to properly put it into words… what I mean is, there is this whole layer of existence hidden in the physical dimension of our human experience that one can approach during sex…it's what one calls "physical intimacy," but that sounds so technical - whereas to me, this is a way of connecting very deeply with someone, getting to know them inside out (quite literally, ha!), and of opening up, trusting another person with total innocence, handing oneself over, making oneself vulnerable…which can be quite terrifying initially. I can't and won't do that as a kind of sports thing with just about anyone; but with the right person, I can do it any time of the day, every day, and never tire of it. It constantly evolves, too, which is why I never get why people can get "bored" of having sex with the same person over and over again…because to me, it never is quite the same, and can be very different even with the same person, depending on the circumstances. To me it can also be a way of servicing the other, of being generous and selfless, caring and kind, of feeling the other one's joy as one's own - or, of being able and willing to accept a thoughtful gift from the other person. I don't see it as a chore, or as stress-relief - for that one doesn't need the presence of another person, does one? But sex with another person can lead to deep knowing without any words exchanged, to seeing the other in all their uniqueness, devoid of pretensions or camouflage....
I'm talking of "normal" sex here, btw, nothing mystical - the Kundalini-raising variant is a different matter altogether, multiply what I said by 100 in that case and add a few dimensions. Anyway, I really do wonder whether seeing/experiencing it that way is an 8th house thing.

Yesssss!!!! I totally relate as another 8th house sun here. Also scorp ASC.
after having had sex with someone for years who saw it more AS a stress release and couldn't access that depth, I now know why I felt we didn't connect. i NEED that transformative plutonic merging type of encounter. That's what creates that endless depth the more you have sex with someone like that who 'gets' it. Peering deeply into one another's souls. Breaking down the barriers. That's what it should be to me.

Having said that, I've experienced two dramatically different sexual encounters in the past while. The first was incredibly animalistic and RAW - rip your clothes off already type thing! Fun but good for one night The second is unbelievably soulful and transformative. Now I know which i prefer


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posted May 10, 2015 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MorpHnStorM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can certainly relate @ Vajra, LeeLoo, and EmGem, but the only thing I have in the 8th is Psyche (and some other asteroids). No planets there...

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posted May 10, 2015 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 12, 2015 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How do you define nasty?


Sorry, I didn't see this, Ami. I meant bad sex, but good nasty is also welcomed

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