posted June 01, 2015 06:15 PM            

It was a very natural/warm-hearted/relaxed/humane/true-to-ourselves meeting.

Whether something is coming out of this or not - which wouldn't suprise me - I feel changed, in a way. But why? let me try to explain this.

He was very open about his past relationships, so was I. Point is he got big trust issues because of those which I could only confirm regarding my own past relationships.

This is the first time I consciously/strongly feel that I would never want to hurt this guy. Never ever. I feel very open to GIVE this trust he needs, if -ofcourse- he would be open TO receive. Either way, it's OKAY (which might even be the best part).

I got used to the big drama inherent to relationships in my life. In fact, I had almost convinced myself that I couldn't live without the drama immer generated by them. I now suddenly also seem to be aware of my own gift of accepting imperfectionism (nobody's perfect u see).

Altogether, a sudden bunch of awareness here.

The day before we met I read a very nice article.

Here it is;

quote:

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What happened on the day you met your husband/wife/lover/life partner? The meeting was indicated in your chart (and their chart). When a major relationship manifests, it always shows up in both charts. But how?

Check the progressions (your “internal transits”). They show how your natal potential is manifesting and they modify the current transits. If you’re wondering what a progression is, it’s the position of your natal planets after they have moved a certain number of degrees per month or year. There are two dominant methods used by astrologers to calculate them (Solar Arc Progressions and Secondary Progressions); I use Secondary Progressions.

I have found the following progressions to be reliable indicators of major relationship kick-offs (initial meetings): one person’s progressed Moon aspects the other’s natal Sun and/or progressed Sun aspects the partner’s natal Moon or Venus. Or, one person’s progressed Sun aspects the other’s progressed Moon or Venus. These progressions don’t trigger 100% of the meetings, but I’ve seen them in many cases. And they don’t guarantee the longevity of the relationship, just that it’s going to happen.

This tells us that before you meet your special someone, you have to be ready. And they have to be ready to meet you. Strong synastry and a knockout Composite chart aren’t enough. The meeting must be triggered. Did you think you just floated along and randomly connected with your lover? It’s all timed. Of course, you need to factor in the transits that are happening, plus your natal potential.

If you’ve been single for awhile, check your progressed Moon or Sun. If they’re changing signs, you’ll start to resonate with people who express the energy of that sign.

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What do/did we have?

His progressed Sun: 16'19 Scorp.
My natal Moon: 16'31 Scorp

TRANSIT Moon (I was flabbergasted to see this): 15'47 Scorp!

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Another very striking thing:

His progressed Moon 24'15 GEM
My progressed Moon 6'10 CANCER

(SOLSTICE conjunction ^)

Composite progressed Moon 0'13 CANCER.
WHICH...

.. exactly square our natal-Composite Sun/Moon midpoint at 0'05 Libra!

(our charts together btw, are FULL of solstice points incl. his natal Sun which would be LIBRA if he was born exactly 4 minutes later)

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OK, I really start to think now that the SUN and MOON might be waaay more important than we give them credit for. And esp. when it comes to first significant meetings.

When I met my ex for ex. my progressed Moon was applying conjunct to his progressed Sun by only some minutes applying!

I've seen another very significant relationship started THIS month with exactly the SAME (his) pSun conjunct her nMoon by also minutes applying!

OK, I would like to keep this thread ONLY related to the SUN and the Moon.

If you have something striking to share about those, during a significant meeting, please do.

posted June 02, 2015 04:56 PM            

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posted June 02, 2015 05:19 PM            

tp Moon 10°52 Sag
tp Vertex 10°37 Sag

n Neptune 9°57 Sag
n NN 10°10 Sag

n Jupiter 11°12 Pisces

posted June 05, 2015 12:17 AM            

Thank u Ami! (it's exactly what my best old friend also says to me.. so spot on! )

posted June 05, 2015 03:26 AM            

Secondary progressions, being Sun-related, are related to the span of a year.
Tertiary ones, being Moon-related, are related only tothe span of a month I suppose. Of course that is a hypothesis as of now, well mostly.

But anyway tp Moon acting as flashlight, it might bring out the Neptune-NN part of my chart. With Neptune being there, hmm, more confusion? lol

Interestingly on 2nd june (yes day of the fullmoon. lol), I was having a bit of an angry outburst; it was not even about something big, and it is rare that I am a litle "explosive-expressive" like that, but I actually had to laugh when I realized that I was having

TP Moon conjunct natal Mars - exact on THAT VERY day (that is how exact those tps seem to work as timing tool, we are talking a timeorb of DAYS here. lol)

Of course

additionally Tr Moon had just been conjunct my natal Mars the night before.

posted June 05, 2015 01:08 PM            

oh and TP Moon was on 5°11 Sagittarius, with my natal Mars being on 5°10 Sagittarius.

posted June 05, 2015 01:56 PM            

I also seem to notice that the secondary progressions don't say so much about the QUALITY of a relationship. Well ofcourse we already knew that to some extent but experiencing it first-hand is another thing.

I mean, a friend of mine (well, you might say it's something more than just a friend - years ago we fell for each other but circumstances... blabla)

He now has a girlfriend since about 2 years. They met exactly at what's expected to find at the start OF... A verrry nice progressed Sun/Venus and Venus/Venus trine between them. Another Sun/Venus trine is now applying by 1 degr.
You would expect him to be happy, not?
But forget it. He's still thinking about me every day (??) while I haven't seen him now in-real for 2 years or so. So I recently admitted that now and then I'm also thinking about him but only when I feel lonely or somehow abandoned by this or that guy - "guys come and go but u keep living here dear". I also said that I can now finally resign myself to the fact that I also "love him" and that we'll never dissapear completely from each others life (I'm an open door to expressing every little feeling detail to him lol). This is the 2nd Moon in Pisces generating such emotional openness in me, striking enough.

Well, for years and when we met.. we had a progressed Sun/Venus square between us (his retro pVenus). It's slowly leaving orb now but nothing to expect from the other "progressed biggies" either for the next decades.

BUT... look at our progressed Suns and Moons!
It's one out of a million! And with the same Moon-speed it'll Always stay that way. (that's why I'm sure he will never leave my life completely - we'll physically meet again soon btw, to drink champagne)

We have exactly OPPOSITE progressed Moon phases, but not only that, both our pSun/pMoon midpoints are also CONJUNCT (+ will stay that way)!

This explains to me everything between us incl. this ongoing process.. (despite how much I'v tried to merciless cut him out in the past)

Our progressed Suns and Moons;

Mine:
Sun - 19,5 Virgo
Moon - 6,5 Cancer

(midpoint 13 leo)

His:
Sun – 17,5 Sag
Moon – 4,5 Aries

(midpoint 11 leo)

^^ Mine is a WANING sextile and His’ a WAXING trine = exact opposite phases (in degree also)!

Next to those immer opposite phases (when he’s having a progressed new Moon, I’ll have a progressed full Moon) also solstice conjunctions will occur at the same time. That’s because of equal pSun/pMoon midpoints.

(well his TOB = unknown but he’s sure it’s about 3 AM and so I took that time – but that doesn’t even matter in this exceptional case)

Also, when we will have a COMPOSITE progressed New Moon it will be at the degrees of our synastry Sun/Moon conjunction at 17 Scorp! (coincidence?)

posted June 05, 2015 02:30 PM            

Did you read my past thread on the cycles? Waht do you think of it?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/001239-2.html

Progressions are mostly giving opportunities. They might also show some (temporary) quality, but if not backed up by the natal synastry, it just does not reach deep enough.

Nevertheless, even though you are on his mind still,k he did eventually got together with someone else, and I suppose the progressions did open up the opportunity to do so.

posted June 06, 2015 09:49 AM            

A few hours before Tr Moon will have passed (conjuncted) his pr Moon, and on the occasion will be on 2°28 Taurus
square his pr Sun on 3°08 Aquarius and opposing my pr Uranus on 2°26 Scorpio.