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EmGem Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 05, 2015 11:30 PM
Between two people who are romantically involved, does emotional connection and empathy, honesty and vulnerability only involve moon to moon aspects? What else makes two people feel like they 'get' each other at the soul level? Something that denotes the existence of a relationship that is not purely sexual but soul transforming. Please feel free to share your thoughts. IP: Logged |
comdoc Knowflake Posts: 144 From: Tucson Registered: Feb 2015
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posted June 06, 2015 11:10 AM
Resonant harmony connections involving Moon--Venus interaspects, 4th Houses, including 4H ruler(s) and synastry placements in 4H. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6259 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted June 06, 2015 12:03 PM
Trined Moons is awesome for that. It makes you feel like you can say anything and they will understand, but often you don't have to say anything bc they already know how you feel. I'm a big fan of moon to moon contacts. I never was before, but now I am.IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 06, 2015 08:05 PM
I agree with the 4H placements...i've been experiencing this now and it's incredible the emotional understanding between us. We also have our moons conjunct there which definitely intensifies it. I've had trined moons before but we still felt we couldnt understand one another.I guess sun/moon may make for a strong connection too. Let's not forget the asteroids in synastry either....just wondering which ones might help with feeling this sort of connection...hmmmm
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unforgiven_soul Knowflake Posts: 552 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 07, 2015 01:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: Between two people who are romantically involved, does emotional connection and empathy, honesty and vulnerability only involve moon to moon aspects? What else makes two people feel like they 'get' each other at the soul level? Something that denotes the existence of a relationship that is not purely sexual but soul transforming. Please feel free to share your thoughts.
Soul level connections are strong when you have past life aspects. IC conjuncting the Moon is strong as mentioned above, because it's similar to Moon-Moon conjunction. Also S.Node aspecting the other's Moon. I also love Moon-Mercury aspects, it creates a higher emotional understanding, telepathy as you would say. I have all this aspects with someone and our connection is unbelievable. Also planets falling into partners "deep" houses can make it really strong. Water houses can make the difference.
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EmGem Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 07, 2015 03:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by unforgiven_soul: Soul level connections are strong when you have past life aspects. IC conjuncting the Moon is strong as mentioned above, because it's similar to Moon-Moon conjunction. Also S.Node aspecting the other's Moon. I also love Moon-Mercury aspects, it creates a higher emotional understanding, telepathy as you would say. I have all this aspects with someone and our connection is unbelievable. Also planets falling into partners "deep" houses can make it really strong. Water houses can make the difference.
yesss! we have moon/moon/mars/sat/SN conj in his 4H. How wide of an orb is sufficient for an IC conj? is 11* too wide? How is your relationship with this person now? especially considering the SN? IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1699 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted June 07, 2015 12:44 PM
i think it has to involve both moons. it could be that the moons are strongly connected (conjunct, trine) or it could come through a (mutual) house overlay. i don't think the house matters so long as one of the people is ruled by the house the moon hits.IP: Logged |
Peluches Knowflake Posts: 1183 From: Vαleŋtiŋe ~ Registered: Jul 2014
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posted June 07, 2015 01:02 PM
All of the above I think angle or luminary conjunctions to the S/M midpoint work well, too ; New Moon Composites and 4H activity there are especially powerful. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 08, 2015 05:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: i don't think the house matters so long as one of the people is ruled by the house the moon hits.
Do you mean their chart ruler?? For example: our Virgo and Leo moons conjunct in his 4th and its ruler is the sun..so if his chart ruler is the sun that's what you mean? Just trying to clarify thanks IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Knowflake Posts: 1586 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 08, 2015 07:47 AM
I think placing the SUN or MOON in partner's 8th can be very intimate, however, for emotional connection to be comfortable, I think there would need to be some understanding or growth available between the natures of the MOONs.Perhaps a natally-healthy NEPTUNE/PLUTO to Other's MOON, would also support emotional connection, in a MOON prepared to explore the depths. IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1699 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted June 08, 2015 11:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: Do you mean their chart ruler?? For example: our Virgo and Leo moons conjunct in his 4th and its ruler is the sun..so if his chart ruler is the sun that's what you mean? Just trying to clarify thanks
kind of. it's not my theory or anything, it comes from the book Intimate Relationships. the theory being that if, for example, your bf has his Asc/Sun/Moon in Leo then your moon would need to fall into his 5th (which is ruled by Leo) - and that'll be significant. another example, if you have a Asc/Sun/Moon in Virgo then his Moon would need to fall into your 6th. someone has to have their moon hit the house that rules the Asc/Sun/Moon of the partner for a significant emotional connection and relationship. it seems like the author is using the houses as a conjunction of sorts. the author conducted a marriage study and the error rate was less than 10% with this system. the only other example she cited as important was if both people have their Moon in the same house, for example both you and your bf have a Moon in your own 4th, 5th, etc.- the emotional focus is the same and creates a bond for the partners.
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 3510 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 08, 2015 11:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: Between two people who are romantically involved, does emotional connection and empathy, honesty and vulnerability only involve moon to moon aspects? What else makes two people feel like they 'get' each other at the soul level? Something that denotes the existence of a relationship that is not purely sexual but soul transforming. Please feel free to share your thoughts.
My last relationship had Venus sextile moon, moon trine Mars, moon-ascendant trine, his sun sign was compatible with my moon sign by sextile and his moon sign was compatible with my sun sign by sextile, and we also had a moon-moon square. I never truly felt like he got me in spite of all the other great moon aspects. His emotional insensitivity was always grating and he always directly misattributed my motives, to an almost alien extent.
Good moon to moon connections (doesn't even matter if it's actually in aspect by orb! I would say just compatible signs) are really not replaceable imo. Having said that, his was a 5th-house moon and mine was 8th-house to boot, so it could have just been especially bad due to that as well. I also think moon trine Pluto or Neptune may bring a touch of the same feeling as compatible moons. IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted June 08, 2015 01:16 PM
quote: The only other example she cited as important was if both people have their Moon in the same house, for example both you and your bf have a Moon in your own 4th, 5th, etc.- the emotional focus is the same and creates a bond for the partners.
Meaning if my moon falls in his 8th, and his moon falls in my 8th, that counts? IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1699 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted June 08, 2015 01:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by margym0o: Meaning if my moon falls in his 8th, and his moon falls in my 8th, that counts?
well, that would count because it's a mutual overlay, and a very good positioning. but the source was saying that emotional connectivity forms when the partners' moon sign is the same house in their respective natal charts. so, both people were born with their moon in the 9th, 11th, 1st, etc. the signs might be different but the house of the moon would be the same for each person. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 08, 2015 06:25 PM
starmoon, what if: his 4h cusp is leo where his 29* leo moon falls. My 11h cusp is leo where my 1* virgo moon falls. does having the same cusp sign where your moons fall count for a connection?edit: both our vedic moons are in leo IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1699 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted June 08, 2015 10:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: starmoon, what if: his 4h cusp is leo where his 29* leo moon falls. My 11h cusp is leo where my 1* virgo moon falls. does having the same cusp sign where your moons fall count for a connection?edit: both our vedic moons are in leo
i don't think cusps would matter. the book that the info. comes from is by Joan McEvers and is called Intimate Relationships. It was published by Llewellyn in the 90s.
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bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 1028 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 08, 2015 11:00 PM
Nothing beats a moon-moon connection. Even without an aspect, if the moon is in the same element it's amazing for an emotional connection.IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 09, 2015 03:00 AM
Agreed I've found out of sign moon conjunctions are just as powerful too. There's nothing quite like someone that 'gets' you!IP: Logged |
ikja Knowflake Posts: 1581 From: London, UK (GMT - 5 hours ahead) Registered: Oct 2014
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posted June 09, 2015 07:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by GypseeWind: Trined Moons is awesome for that. It makes you feel like you can say anything and they will understand, but often you don't have to say anything bc they already know how you feel. I'm a big fan of moon to moon contacts. I never was before, but now I am.
I have had trine moons in my last relationship; and I always feel like I knew what he is thinking without him having to say anything. I think it worked the other way round too. I could never hide my sadness from him and I felt his eyes spoke to me. I could feel him and his energy. It was weird lol, but it made me feel very connected to him.
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StillTippin Knowflake Posts: 29 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 16, 2015 03:02 AM
I honestly dont think so. I've had Neptune and Pluto relationships that drew the same thing but I will say its something different when the moons touch esp. If its positive. Simply b/c the moon is where we feel "at home" at and mt experience was that we nutured the hell out of each other. The love was deep. We had our moons exactly sextile to each other. I could honestly spend time with her all day b/c of the comfort.
With the things you've mentioned it takes dissolving of boundaries. But if there is a wall up it wont happen or at least as easily. I've been in a neptunian relationship and it had a weird moment where we both had the exact same dream. I think it happened twice.
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 16, 2015 11:41 AM
Could it be balanced if say, I have Scorpio Moon and he Taurus Moon, so we have Moon opp. Moon...but his Moon falls in my 8th?IP: Logged |
LovelyKitty Knowflake Posts: 607 From: ~*Cosmic Wanderer *~ Registered: Jun 2012
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posted July 16, 2015 12:12 PM
good aspect between the planets as following- moon -moon - moon-neptune : very spiritual and psychic connect - moon-pluto : deep emotional transformation - personal planets in 4th,8th,12th. - Nodal or Vertex contact I think I emphasis on the moon because the deep bonding and transformation must form in your secret places inside out. So I don't put the venus here as much. IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 208 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 16, 2015 05:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by StillTippin: I honestly dont think so. I've had Neptune and Pluto relationships that drew the same thing but I will say its something different when the moons touch esp. If its positive. Simply b/c the moon is where we feel "at home" at and mt experience was that we nutured the hell out of each other. The love was deep. We had our moons exactly sextile to each other. I could honestly spend time with her all day b/c of the comfort.
With the things you've mentioned it takes dissolving of boundaries. But if there is a wall up it wont happen or at least as easily. I've been in a neptunian relationship and it had a weird moment where we both had the exact same dream. I think it happened twice.
Check this thread out to talk about your dream you had together. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/002930.html IP: Logged |
geminigal2805 Knowflake Posts: 1292 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 17, 2015 04:34 AM
Conjunctions to IC would help too....esp from personal planets.IP: Logged |