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FmVenusWLove
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posted July 28, 2015 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been looking through the threads on the AVx/Vertex and all are very educational, but I still have a few questions. I asked this on another thread but there were no takers - was hoping someone might help me out.

Can you consider the Vx as part of a natal T-Square? I know the orbs are probably too wide, but in my chart it opposes Neptune (3 degrees) and both Neptune and Vx square Jupiter (4 degrees).

I ask because my Vx creates a Grand Cross through synastry with another person (orbs >2 for all aspects). I'm just wondering if this is significant in some way or if I'm just reading into things.

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hypatia238
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posted July 28, 2015 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realized my vertex conjunct his northnode is at the apex of tsquare between his AC opposite his Mars-DC which turns into a grandcross if we add my BML to the mix.

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Gemini Blues
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posted July 28, 2015 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Vx/aVx count for something, but it doesn't quite complete the pattern like a planet would. I have Mercury as the focus of a T conjunct the Vx. It doesn't feel like a cross unless and until someone puts a planet in synastry on my aVx to complete the pattern. Or so I think....

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FmVenusWLove
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posted July 28, 2015 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
I think the Vx/aVx count for something, but it doesn't quite complete the pattern like a planet would. I have Mercury as the focus of a T conjunct the Vx. It doesn't feel like a cross unless and until someone puts a planet in synastry on my aVx to complete the pattern. Or so I think....

That's very interesting to hear. If someone does put a planet on your aVx, does it feel "electric" in some way? I am very new to angles. Still trying to understand how to interpret them and if there are differences/limits to interpreting them. Other's thoughts from the other, short-lived thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/003014.html

The angles are of great importance as part of patterns, yes, maybe even more than planets. Because then the whole configuration will sit on an angle.

I say NN/SN and Vx/aVx are every bit as important as AC/DC/MC/IC. But its also going to depend on how strongly those are in your chart to begin with.

The angles however are the skeleton of your chart and it them who really anchor the planets into earthly manifestation, ro to put it more simply, they determine how and where you will experience the aspects, as they are the lenses through which you look at the sky and experience the aspects, spanning the net of houses over your chart.

I give most importance to aspects, when one or mroe planets will be conjunct (only the conjunct) the angles, as these will take centre stage and be very much in the foreground.

And in a second step I also take into account if there are aspects where planets conjunct the Vertex/Antivertex and/ or nodal axis.

Those are the aspects bringing the heavenly aspects (after all planets are all up in the sky) in touch with earth (which is what hte calculated points are about) and therefore our here-and-now-experience.

So, could a conjunction in synastry with the aVx in a t-Square make the Vx the focal point? How would that play out in the interaction between the two people?

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Gemini Blues
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posted July 29, 2015 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being the AntiVertex, its more a point of attraction. More magnetic than electric maybe. Not quite the glue of Saturn either, but still "sticky".

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