posted August 03, 2015 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
° mirrored and complementing aspects in natal (including partner pattern)

° conjunctions to the angles, including Vertex-axis (though Vertex-axis is not a must for me) along with nodal axis, tight squares work, too

° luminaries in aspect or at least some sort of compatibility or mirroring

° relationship-profile-planets (planets ruling 5th, 7th, to a lesser degree 8th house, and planets located in 5th, 7th and 8th house, especially if hugging the cusp) in strong tight aspects to personal planets in the other chart (esp. Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars plus ASC, possibly MC and ruler of ASC along with dispositors of personal planets if there is a stellium)

° some Jupiter aspects (a must for me, not for everyone else though) plus some Saturn aspects to personal planets (including and actually favouring the 4th harmonic aspects)

° a synastry that reflects natal pattern (what could you do with a nicely Uranian synastry, if your natal pattern demands for Saturn-Pluto? )

° relevant composite planets in tight overlay of natal planets

° some (personal) aspects to female Venus and masculine Mars, or an aspect between those two. I am oldfashioned I know (and the other way is great, too), but well I like to feel like a woman now and then (have to be reassured of this occasionally with all that Sagittarius-Aquarius-energy)

° and last but not least
activation through progressions. These are actually a MUST.
If it is not there, the most beautiful compatible synastry will not take off. Sadly I have seen that over and over again (progressed composite work as well, btw)

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As for Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, it`s a flavour, not the main course!

Well somepeople CRAVE a particular flavour, but this will only work, if the ingredients for the main course are there already.
As boring as it sounds, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars. ruler of 5th, 7th, 1st.
Without them, there is no relating in a basic sense (even though there can be hot passionate affairs based on something liek Uranus-Venus or Pluto-Mars).

if the basic relation is there, those outers can deepen the experience enormously, if not, oh well, I suppose everyone is needing to make their own experiences with that.

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BRILLIANT summary!

and this:

a synastry that reflects natal pattern (what could you do with a nicely Uranian synastry, if your natal pattern demands for Saturn-Pluto? )

should be a motto.

and this sums it up:

As boring as it sounds, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars. ruler of 5th, 7th, 1st.
Without them, there is no relating in a basic sense

Ceri rules!

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 03, 2015 11:22 AM            

Thank you

And you absolutely highlighted the parts that were the most important to me.

In fact that just set me on the course to write up my own relationship profile, the extended version.

5th house
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Venus: r5

to a lesser degree:
Saturn: dispositor of r5
Uranus: opposing c5 exact

7th house
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Mercury: r7

to a lesser degree:
Jupiter: dispositor of r7
Sun: conjunct r7
Mars: opposing c7
Neptune: opposing c7
(not sure about the opositions)

8th house
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Moon: r8
Saturn: p8 (planet in 8)

to a lesser degree:
Uranus: dispositor r8

Funny how the 5th and 8th house are kinda similiar to each other, and now I am not that surprised anymore, how frequently my Saturn was being triggered, when relationship-oriented stuff happened.

posted August 03, 2015 11:32 AM            

Funny enough Uranus is on my Moon/Saturn-mp, so all the 8th house relevant planets nicely together, or not so nicely. (plus they represent the 2nd-8th axis for me)

Uranus also widely squares my Mercury/Jupiter-mp (7th - 1st axis for me)

and lastly my Venus/Pluto-mp (5th-11th axis) is NOT configured with my Uranus, instead it is conjunct HIS URanus. LOL

posted August 03, 2015 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by comdoc:
Would you please describe your "core influences" approach and method?

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posted August 03, 2015 05:02 PM            

Same goes for composite charts. I especially like comparing the composite to each natal, to see how much the relationship is affecting them and in what way.

posted August 03, 2015 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Connections (conjunctions mainly) to the NODES, VX, and Angles ; all hard aspects (multiples of 45° included) to h22 PRIAPUS, h13 LILITH, and the SUN/MOON, VE/MA, 5R/8R midpoints ; some PLUTO contacts (PLUTO/MOON favourite) and/or JUPITER (JUP/MOON, to ROTFL every time you see each other) ; classic relationship houses overlays ; any kind of perfect symmetry or resonance between the two charts.

Same goes for composite charts. I especially like comparing the composite to each natal, to see how much the relationship is affecting them and in what way.

ETA : Oh ! In synastry, VALENTINE, AMOR, AMBROSIA or any other sweet love asteroid conjunct CHIRON.

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posted August 03, 2015 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Pretty much this:
- I've noticed direct overlays in 5th 7th are not that important, but rulers in aspect are, so lack of romance rulers in aspect

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This is an important point. If you have symbolism matches and to the 5th, 7th and 8th houses, and aspects to the rulers, overlays are not always necessary. So many people mistake overlays as the 'be all and end all' of 5th, 7th, and 8th house activation. Not true, and believing so can lead to disappointment or thinking it 'doesn't work'.

The same goes for the secondary 7th house. Symbolism matches and ruler aspects can do the trick if overlays lack. I've noticed that other secondaries are not as powerful as the angular secondaries. So out of the secondary 5th, 7th, and 8th houses the secondary 7th house is the strongest. Now I always check it.

posted August 03, 2015 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

° a synastry that reflects natal pattern (what could you do with a nicely Uranian synastry, if your natal pattern demands for Saturn-Pluto? )
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° relevant composite planets in tight overlay of natal planets
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° some (personal) aspects to female Venus and masculine Mars, or an aspect between those two. I am oldfashioned I know (and the other way is great, too), but well I like to feel like a woman now and then (have to be reassured of this occasionally with all that Sagittarius-Aquarius-energy)
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° and last but not least
activation through progressions. These are actually a MUST.
If it is not there, the most beautiful compatible synastry will not take off. Sadly I have seen that over and over again (progressed composite work as well, btw)
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EDIT
As for Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, it`s a flavour, not the main course!

Well somepeople CRAVE a particular flavour, but this will only work, if the ingredients for the main course are there already.
As boring as it sounds, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars. ruler of 5th, 7th, 1st.
Without them, there is no relating in a basic sense (even though there can be hot passionate affairs based on something liek Uranus-Venus or Pluto-Mars).

if the basic relation is there, those outers can deepen the experience enormously, if not, oh well, I suppose everyone is needing to make their own experiences with that.

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I agreed with pretty much everything you said but I just wanted to highlight these points.

Now, I can totally be attracted to my yang planet aspecting a guy's yin planet, but my preference is to have my yin planet aspecting the guy's yang planet. Yeah, it's better cause it makes me feel like a women. If it's my yang planet it's like there's this inner drive to do something or chase him (even if I ignore that drive and do nothing it's there). When it's my yin planet I don't worry so much about doing anything, there's confidence that I can attract regardless.

posted August 03, 2015 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
You have come far, padawan.

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posted August 03, 2015 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:

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posted August 03, 2015 10:09 PM            

So, my boyfriend's NNODE is in Taurus. I don't have anything in early Taurus, and our major karmic stellium is in mid-late Taurus, consisting of my CHIRON skipped step and all that jazz. Now, he's got a fair bit in Leo, which is actually conjunct my NNODE: VENUS and KARMA among them; JUNO is later, but in the sign. So, there's a clear connexion.

But what of his NNODE? Is there nothing I've to teach him, or do to aid him along his evolutionary path? The 0° conjunction of his SNODE to my KARMA is certainly something, but that's a bit different.

Then I thought of my well-represented 2H. It hosts my SUN-PLUTO-BML, as well as KARMA, and even ADONIS-APHRODITE and a few others -- such as ASTARTE and INNANEN. There's definitely activity there, being my solar house.

But would that qualify as 'matching his NNODE symbolism'? My solar 2H energy to his Taurean NNODE?

And, speaking of 7H symbolism -- my really packed house is 3H: MOON-URA, MERC, DESTINN-EROS, MARS, ANGEL, LILITH -- and so on. (Very, very busy house.)

His DSC, of course, is Gemini. Which is also my husband's SUN, so my 3H MOON blends well with his Gemini SUN. Then my boyfriend's SUN is 8H, which unifies with my Scorpio MOON -- that carries the 3H energy.

posted August 04, 2015 05:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:

Now, I can totally be attracted to my yang planet aspecting a guy's yin planet, but my preference is to have my yin planet aspecting the guy's yang planet. Yeah, it's better cause it makes me feel like a women. If it's my yang planet it's like there's this inner drive to do something or chase him (even if I ignore that drive and do nothing it's there). When it's my yin planet I don't worry so much about doing anything, there's confidence that I can attract regardless.

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I don't know how I missed this in Ceri's post. This is definitely important and something I like to see in romantic synastries, the best:

activation of the man's Mars
and of the woman's Venus

when the man's Mars is not activated (aspected), he usually doesn't pursue or there are issues with that (not strong physical attraction from his side, and lack of strong drive/motivation at the same time); and with the woman's Venus, she doesn't feel attracted/attractive, feminine, valued as a woman, desired in his presence. For women, this is perhaps the strongest aphrodisiac anyway (plus activating her Venus brings the need to love the other, to be affectionate with them), while for men, it's their Mars, when they feel they would go to the end of the world for that lady (ready to DO things for and with her).

That's why I tend to see Mars for men and Venus for women as the primary romantic button to push.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted August 04, 2015 06:02 AM            

Like my Venus trine his Mars-Jupiter-conjunction (4-5 degrees) and trine his Chiron (3 degrees).

posted August 04, 2015 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
And antiscion! And contraparallel, too.

You'd be surprised how 'ideally complementary' the male MARS to female VENUS can be with merely a contraparallel and antiscia.

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posted August 05, 2015 03:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
A thought I've been having on symbolism matches and affinities, [b]@Lotis.

So, my boyfriend's NNODE is in Taurus. I don't have anything in early Taurus, and our major karmic stellium is in mid-late Taurus, consisting of my CHIRON skipped step and all that jazz. Now, he's got a fair bit in Leo, which is actually conjunct my NNODE: VENUS and KARMA among them; JUNO is later, but in the sign. So, there's a clear connexion.

But what of his NNODE? Is there nothing I've to teach him, or do to aid him along his evolutionary path? The 0° conjunction of his SNODE to my KARMA is certainly something, but that's a bit different.

Then I thought of my well-represented 2H. It hosts my SUN-PLUTO-BML, as well as KARMA, and even ADONIS-APHRODITE and a few others -- such as ASTARTE and INNANEN. There's definitely activity there, being my solar house.

But would that qualify as 'matching his NNODE symbolism'? My solar 2H energy to his Taurean NNODE?

And, speaking of 7H symbolism -- my really packed house is 3H: MOON-URA, MERC, DESTINN-EROS, MARS, ANGEL, LILITH -- and so on. (Very, very busy house.)

His DSC, of course, is Gemini. Which is also my husband's SUN, so my 3H MOON blends well with his Gemini SUN. Then my boyfriend's SUN is 8H, which unifies with my Scorpio MOON -- that carries the 3H energy.

Anyhow, I wondered what you thought about that. I can certainly say I'm helping him evolve along his path, but wondered if it's anything to do with my 2H solar energy sharing affinity with his NNODE Taurean symbolism.[/B]

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Hi Aubyanne,

Yeah, if his North Node is Taurus then you putting stuff on his Venus will work well too. Conjunctions or trines. A similar thing will happen if you put planets in his 2nd house or strongly aspect his second house ruler. It's not a direct activation but it would put him in touch with Taurean themes in life, which helps him ahead with the Taurean things he needs to learn about.

Your natal Sun in 2nd house will haven an impact too, simply because this puts you in touch with these themes naturally and he'll able to pick up on this from you.

posted August 05, 2015 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I don't know how I missed this in Ceri's post. This is definitely important and something I like to see in romantic synastries, the best:

activation of the man's Mars
and of the woman's Venus

when the man's Mars is not activated (aspected), he usually doesn't pursue or there are issues with that (not strong physical attraction from his side, and lack of strong drive/motivation at the same time); and with the woman's Venus, she doesn't feel attracted/attractive, feminine, valued as a woman, desired in his presence. For women, this is perhaps the strongest aphrodisiac anyway (plus activating her Venus brings the need to love the other, to be affectionate with them), while for men, it's their Mars, when they feel they would go to the end of the world for that lady (ready to DO things for and with her).

That's why I tend to see Mars for men and Venus for women as the primary romantic button to push.

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Hey leeloo have a question on what you just posted still learning on rulers and overlays etc.
what if the mans mars is not aspected at all BUT ruler of his mars which is 5th house in ARIES is being aspected?? such as his personal planets and asteroids etc in his 5th house is being aspected by the woman's moon,mercury, jupiter, or love asteroids etc in synastry?? can that also apply as well?