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Topic: Sun/Venus progressions/relationship start
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EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2189 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted August 08, 2015 03:44 AM
exactly right mir.apparently we were pulled apart in past lives too. his pSUN is exactly trine my pMARS which is in our synastry only reversed. but i guess that doesnt count for much.
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mir Knowflake Posts: 2733 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 08, 2015 03:52 AM
I'm afraid not. I also think that progressions might give a more realistic approach to life. So that we can see that it's time to move on. Well ofcourse, if things will develop naturally then there's no progressed aspect that could ever stop it. Life itself is/has the biggest power of all. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2189 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted August 08, 2015 03:55 AM
True words Mir It doesn't begin and end at astrology. There is of course free will. And lessons to be learnt along the way. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6718 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 08, 2015 04:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: True words Mir It doesn't begin and end at astrology. There is of course free will. And lessons to be learnt along the way.
Aye, free-will. It's a wily sort. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2189 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted August 08, 2015 04:45 AM
ok so i just checked my ex husband and my progressed synastry. we were together for 10 years. quite a significant relationship.but...we have NO major progressed synastry aspects like the venus/venus, sun/venus, venus/mars trines, conjunctions, or oppositions. sextiles yes but those are too wide. hmmmm interesting..there goes the theory for that one! IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2189 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted August 08, 2015 04:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: Aye, free-will. It's a wily sort.
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mollywu Knowflake Posts: 459 From: Chengdu, China Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 08, 2015 07:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: We were discussing this as a progressed-to-natal aspect. One's pVENUS conjunct their SUN, or pSUN conjunct VENUS.
Yes i know what u were talking about. I guess u might have misunderstood what i said. Ok let me be more specific. That guy's progressed sun is in virgo 4.45 degree now. My natal sun is in virgo 5.0 degree,venus in virgo 5.5degree. But we broke up 1.5 years ago, i already moved on,i am sure he did too. U see, his progressed sun is conjunct my natal sun and Venus, applying ,but feeling is gone already, so that's why i said other aspects should be considered. IP: Logged |
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posted August 08, 2015 08:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: ok so i just checked my ex husband and my progressed synastry. we were together for 10 years. quite a significant relationship.but...we have NO major progressed synastry aspects like the venus/venus, sun/venus, venus/mars trines, conjunctions, or oppositions. sextiles yes but those are too wide. hmmmm interesting..there goes the theory for that one!
Check the pSun-Moon-cycle, the ruler of 5th and 7th house and most importantly the ASC-DESC (progressed and natal of course) and possibly MC-IC too IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 2733 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 08, 2015 05:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by mollywu: Yes i know what u were talking about. I guess u might have misunderstood what i said. Ok let me be more specific. That guy's progressed sun is in virgo 4.45 degree now. My natal sun is in virgo 5.0 degree,venus in virgo 5.5degree. But we broke up 1.5 years ago, i already moved on,i am sure he did too. U see, his progressed sun is conjunct my natal sun and Venus, applying ,but feeling is gone already, so that's why i said other aspects should be considered.
In progressions it's all about tight orbs. And Sun/Sun isn't exactly the thing to look for but Sun/Venus IS and since his pSun at that time must have been at about 3'15 Virgo, we might say it's too wide to be felt with your Venus at Virgo 5,5. You broke up 1,5 year ago and haven't seen each other since that time, is what I make up from it. And ofcourse, there's no rule that says we hook up witch everyone with whom we share a pSun/Venus conjunction. IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1738 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 08, 2015 05:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by mir:
I THINK it's time to look at TRUE close~to~home cases and NOT celibrity couples. Why? Well, what would you do when being the prey of newspapers, broadsheets and tabloids?Exactly! I wouldn't want to give away my true data. Am I the only one? I don't think so... I got an example of one famous actrice (I forgot her name) and at the end of her life she confessed that she deliberately kept her true data hidden from the public.
mir, that's exactly why I tend to stick to either people I know personally, or, to historical figures who have been thoroughly researched including circumstances of their birth, and not contemporary actors/actresses…one actress I know personally did exactly the same btw, she always gives a false birth date in public, not to "hide" her data, but to appear a few years younger because that might land her better jobs. She actually did this to get into drama school already, because there was an age limit which she'd already passed, and after they accepted her, she confessed and they took her in regardless. It may be a bigger problem with women actors than with men, but who really knows? That actress friend told me it's common practice for actors to lie about all their stats, including their birth year. Another concern of mine is - how much of the stories one gets to read in the news or on the net may be deliberate fabrications, distortions of facts, or just false rumours? Can we ever truly know whether a famous couple is happy, how they actually relate when they're alone? I guess not, unless they're already dead and have become the topic of thorough historical research, by interviewing all their surviving acquaintances and family members, analyzing their letters and diaries etc…. Today, I think especially the social media give the audience a false sense of familiarity with celebs, and that much of what one sees online is actually only a screen onto which people project their fantasies. IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 2733 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 08, 2015 05:50 PM
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 1156 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted June 25, 2017 09:21 PM
I'm bringing this tread back to life... I'm starting to think this depends on what the people in the relationship needs... if I have a prog to natal synastry with Sun/Venus and Venus/Mars in soft aspect I really don't notice them/it stays in the friendship zone... But, then the relationship goes to a different level when Sun/Venus or Venus/Mars in square aspect starts... Also, for me... if any of these pairs are in opposition the relationship will not happen/get off the ground with that person. But, the last relationship that I had (started with a pMars squ Venus synastry) and when that aspect ended the relationship continued. The relationship ended when his prog Venus conj my Sun (1.40 applying) and his Prog Sun conj my DSC (1.35 applying). I have also noticed for my relationships the prog to natal synastry doesn't really work for me when the orb is larger than 1.40 degrees.
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Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3337 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 26, 2017 01:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Selene: My progressed Venus is in 15.30 Scorpio, his natal Sun is in 18.00 Cancer... Technically it IS a Sun/Venus trine and it could start the relationship, right? But i wonder about the orb. Isn't it too wide? 2.5 degrees?
Yes, for progressed aspects that is way, way too wide. Progressed aspects are phantoms, not actual current planetary positions. They are projections onto the future of early life transits. Being such phantoms their effective orb is right near culmination, within several minutes arc of exact (0°00-05'). quote:
The thing is.. the astrologer i went to see last year foresaw this meeting, down to a few days. She said it would turn into a decent relationship in a few months, at that time i had no idea of the guy in question, though. She was talking just about someone i would meet and who'd make a major impact on my love life.
The timing of your meeting was due to other factors. Relationships are timed by what is in the individual's charts, not in cross-referencing your progressions to his natals, etc. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Expert birth chart rectification Rising Sign Descriptions ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7168 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 26, 2017 01:24 PM
Judging by the table that Paul Westran published based on his research, a relationship started with a wider degrees between Sun and Venus and Venus- Mars, all the way to 2.5 degrees in some cases...More discussion here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012875.html IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95740 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2017 09:46 PM
Thanks, Kannon and Orange. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95740 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 08, 2017 06:04 PM
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 2547 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 19, 2018 08:33 AM
I didn't think progressions were important. And never actually paid attention to my own progressions. What does it mean that my progressed Sun conjuncts this guys natal Venus? I know Sun/Venus is more so physical than emotional. But I also have Sun/Moon and Venus/Moon in synastry with this person. IP: Logged |