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angel4845
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posted August 07, 2015 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ehhhhhh. Depends upon how long ago he said that. We've made a LOT of changes in regards to twin flame astrology in the past 6 months; especially 4.

Lately, we've been seeing a stronger 11H connexion.


He told me that last week. And I don't clearly believe I met my twin flame cause I honestly don't believe in the theory to some degree unless I experience it fully one day.

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posted August 07, 2015 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry my bad I said it wrong about having a packed 4th house indicates a TWINFLAME clue this is what IQ said in my composite reading.

"5 planets in the same house is very powerful, it is a Twin Flame Clue. The 4th House is great for settling down together and owning a home, raising a family etc. There also 3 planets in the 5th House to boost joy in the relationship."

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posted August 07, 2015 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
What about Vertex on the composite DSC?

I had this with my ex and the relationship was pretty significant it taught me a lot about love and growing up.

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posted August 07, 2015 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Sorry my bad I said it wrong about having a packed 4th house indicates a TWINFLAME clue this is what IQ said in my composite reading.

"5 planets in the same house is very powerful, it is a Twin Flame Clue. The 4th House is great for settling down together and owning a home, raising a family etc. There also 3 planets in the 5th House to boost joy in the relationship."


Oh, okay, thanks for that, I need to get back to him. Seeing as the composite with all of the packed houses isn't my twin, I've been rather confused regarding the reliability of that method. Not to mention, I've had plenty of relationships with soulmates where the composite was a packed 1-2 houses sort of deal.

I can see how it still might sometimes work. It could denote a particular type of twin flame coupling. Not sure yet.

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posted August 07, 2015 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Oh, okay, thanks for that, I need to get back to him. Seeing as the composite with all of the packed houses isn't my twin, I've been rather confused regarding the reliability of that method. Not to mention, I've had plenty of relationships with soulmates where the composite was a packed 1-2 houses sort of deal.

I can see how it still might sometimes work. It could denote a particular type of twin flame coupling. Not sure yet.


Ah I see Auby anytime! I'll take that into consideration.

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posted August 07, 2015 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as for vertex /DSC- does it need to be conjunct? And by what degree?

It is usually in my 7th house in the composite, though my 12yr marriage had it far from the DSC, closer to the 8th.

Some significant relationships I have had have it in other houses, 8th and 5th. So still relationship houses, but not DSC.

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posted August 07, 2015 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:
as for vertex /DSC- does it need to be conjunct? And by what degree?

It is usually in my 7th house in the composite, though my 12yr marriage had it far from the DSC, closer to the 8th.

Some significant relationships I have had have it in other houses, 8th and 5th. So still relationship houses, but not DSC.


i would still count it (other houses you mentioned as relationship houses). i wouldn't rely so much on having a vertex conjunct EXACTLY a descendent (just to call that the relationship was mighty significant) its just my opinion. some astrologers say it has to be within 3 degree orb. but like i said i wouldn't rely on having this in a composite with someone. you should also use the NN or destinn asteroid and other asteroids that indicate some form of fate, draconic charts are also telling as well and we also can't forget "name asteroids" in synastry etc.

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posted August 07, 2015 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the vertex (conj Karma incedently) widely conjunct the DSC in the 7th with a very significant person in my life. Also destinn conj DSC but that's in the 6th.

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posted August 07, 2015 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite descendant to me seems to speak to the sacredness of the concept of Other--it's about learning the truth, in myriad ways, depending on the karmic themes of the chart--that the other is, truly, yourself... In a composite with a significant descendant, my feeling is that these two in particular fulfill the sacred and challenging role of "the other" for one another--such a paradox--for we are all truly one. We just get to dance around and talk about it...

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posted August 10, 2015 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question about the Composite Ascendant:

Would the chart ruler of the composite be significant in any way? and any planets afflicting (square,opposition,inconjunct etc.) the composite chart ruler AND ascendant could also tell a story or a main theme being played out within the couple's lives together?

i would have to say that many people are FORGETTING that the chart ruler of the composite is significant as well IMO not just the ascendant and what the planets are affecting the ascendant, i think we should also give credit to the chart ruler of the composite just as much as the composite ascendant.

what do you think? i've found it actually very revealing in regards to what THEME plays out in the couple.i mean cmon! my natal chart ruler totally rings out true to me and the things that i go through daily in my life and a part of "WHO I AM".

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posted August 10, 2015 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My SO and I have Gem Mercury conj Gem Asc and we have a non-stop flow of crazy talk, ideas and traveling! No day is the same and if it is we get bored to DEATH! He has a natal Gem IC and I have NN in 3H so communication and ideas suit us just swell

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posted December 30, 2016 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
I've been reading on the composite Asc all weekend. Apparently they say that if it squares Saturn, Pluto, or Uranus, the relationship will be pure hell.

What about Asc square Jupiter? Jupiter on IC

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posted December 30, 2016 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
What about Asc square Jupiter? Jupiter on IC

I have this with someone - with Mercury opposite Jupiter exact, both squaring the Ascendant within 5-6 degrees.

There are lots of promises for expansion with added enthusiasm but they all fall short. There is often an excess and repetition in our communication that is unhealthy, affecting the relationship negatively. We are prone to wasting energy and time in repeating the same stuff over and over, he is most often the instigator of this. However, this does not seem to be the deal breaker, even though it's annoying to me - it is just part of our dynamic.

Here's more information on Composite Jupiter square the Ascendant:
http://melbymathew.blogspot.bg/2012/07/composite-jupiter-square-ascendant.html

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Might I add, Saturn conjunct composite ASC doesn't always mean a depressing relationship or a relationship that "never gets off the ground" as I've seen being said on here.

From my own experience, it just means there's a serious tone to the relationship and the structure of the relationship has established dynamics by both partners.

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posted December 30, 2016 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please explain in detail, perhaps examples of the ways Pluto square Ascendant and Uranus square Ascendant ( We have both in our Composite.) manifest in a love relationship.

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posted December 30, 2016 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KoreAbyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm...Just wanted to say that my last horrible relationship had Pluto exactly square the composite ascendant from the 4th House.

Definitely like being in hell.

Very interesting thread!

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posted December 30, 2016 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KoreAbyss ~ How so, please?
Three of my major love relationships in my life had Pluto and Uranus square Ascendant in either the fourth or fifth house. Maybe that's way none of them have been fruitful ...

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posted December 30, 2016 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KoreAbyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Stellium,

Sorry I said 4th but it's actually 3rd, conjunct the 4th cusp. It'd still have an impact in the 4th but just wanted to correct it.

Basically, it depends on the natal charts when figuring out how Pluto will affect the relationship. In ours it was difficult because Pluto controlled the ASC/DSC. Squaring them forced us to be a certain way and relate a certain way. You have to keep changing, keep moving and can never get any peace. It's a constant pushing to transform. What if you don't want to transform in that way? Sorry, you're transforming or nothing. Transformation into what you don't want to be is like death. A feeling of being underground and hidden. And the relationship devolves into hide and seek. Pluto doesn't let you keep secrets so if you have a part of yourself you don't want to be a part of the relationship, sorry, it's coming up and out and it will be judged.

You have to look at the natal charts of the people involved. Pluto is the basis for the relationship, the foundation. So all your psychological stuff in your natal is coming out to play all the time. The relationship itself is forcing it up like a volcano. Volcanic eruptions are always imminent, you walk on eggshells or you blow up at eachother. You end up in a deep pit or a secret room, staying hidden until DUN DUN DUNNNN you're found out, your journal is read, your personal, private, individual self is ransacked. The relationship demands everything is open and it's painful.

If you both have a happy relationship with Pluto (is there such a thing?) then I'm sure it might be doable. You just have to be okay with the fact that the relationship might oppose your individual self and when that happens Pluto wins or you break up. Sorry for all the doomsaying but I did say it was hell. Lol!

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