posted August 06, 2015 01:30 PM              

For example, since the Composite Sun is the identity of the relationship and the Composite ASC is the face we project to the outer world as a couple, Sun square ASC would mean that who we are as a couple or us being a couple in general causes conflict in the outer world?

This is just one example out of many related to the Composite ASC.

How important is the Composite ASC? DSC?
Are aspects to the Composite THAT important?

posted August 06, 2015 02:15 PM            

For example, my boyfriend and I have DESTINN conjunct the ASC from the 12H, 0º. It's subtle, but there; people have that sense of destiny from us, as well as karma. They always presume we've been together longer than we have, and are 'a unit'.

Interestingly enough, one of our worst karmic aspects is exactly conjunct the composite ASC, showing how we're to work through the damage 'it' (us, really) have caused each other.

posted August 06, 2015 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
I've been studying Astrology Since I was 10 years old and I have yet to find a substantial amount of information on the Composite ASC and its many possible aspects.

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Hey! 9 for me. And there's SO much more now, as you know, than there used to be. I love how we can help 'bring up' young astrologers now, thanks to websites like LL, and various spots on the 'net.

posted August 06, 2015 03:14 PM            

My comp ASC that squared saturn was only a year, but was so erratic. It wasn't pure hell, but definitely there were moments that were challenging. Maybe if we stuck it out longer it would be hell?

posted August 06, 2015 03:30 PM            

'Uranus Conjunct Ascendant

The conjunction of composite Uranus and Ascendant signifies a relationship that will probably have a strong impact on your lives. The nature of that impact can vary tremendously, depending on your own attitudes.

First of all, this relationship will certainly expose you to a radically new kind of experience. It will not be the gentle consciousness-raising of Jupiter, but the jarring action of Uranus, the planet that challenges all your basic precepts about what life is and how it should be lived.

Your reaction to Uranian energies is determined by how rigid you both are. The more flexible you are toward change and new experiences, the more constructive Uranus is likely to be. If the two of you are rather rigid, its effects can be devastating.

A relationship with this aspect will cause great changes in your lives. It may be that the two of you would not ordinarily be expected to get together, perhaps because of some difference in your backgrounds. Or it may be that one of you is always challenging the other. Sometimes this aspect means that you have come together precisely because the relationship does challenge your usual modes of thinking. It becomes a kind of rebellion against the world, which raises a problem.

This aspect often signifies instability in a relationship, simply because consciously or unconsciously you have come together to challenge or upset your usual patterns of life. This is fine until you try to settle down into some regular pattern together. Then the same restlessness that brought about your relationship may serve to break it up.'

posted August 06, 2015 03:41 PM            

Together, they have an unconventional family unit (a large amount of children, both adopted and biological, that would presumably tear the average couple apart). They also participate in humanitarian causes to the point where this has become Their Brand and other celebrities have followed suit in their path. They produce and create their own films that go against the grain of cinematic tropes. They are certainly "weird", but delightedly so (however this most likely depends on the sign Uranus is, I assume its in Libra for them since they both have conventional beauty). If both have Uranian energy in their respective charts, the composite Uranus on the ASC is just a manifestation of that. In fact, maybe the composite Uranus is the reason for their merging - without it, both would feel stagnated, bored, and go on looking for a more electrifying partnership. Uranus can work like a Saturn in this regard for Uranian/Aquarian folk.

posted August 06, 2015 05:04 PM            

...Every partnership has a face it wears for the world. Secrecy or phoniness aren't the issues here — although the composite Ascendant is in charge of those tricks too, when circumstances demand them. Here’s the point:...In society, a certain amount of “editing” is appropriate, expected, appreciated— and lamented when absent... Intimacy, in other words, is a gift we bestow on a few trusted friends, not something we offer everyone indiscriminately. The composite Ascendant is the buffer between the couple’s secret world and the general public.

When two people make a conscious and individuated response to their composite Ascendant, they generally function well in social situations. They seem comfortable together. They've “got their act together.” A weak response to the composite Ascendant tends to have the opposite impact: there’s an awkwardness about the pair when they’re seen in public. Often, the effect is that they don’t seem right for each other — a statement which may not actually reflect the deeper realities of their relationship. Still, once a couple gets past the courtship phase, they must exist in society....

Each composite Ascendant suggests a set of specific shared activities and attitudes which can contribute mightily to the ease of the bond. They help the couple dance together naturally and without excessive damage to their toes, figuratively and literally too. Our consideration of the composite Ascendant should expand to include the Ascendant’s planetary ruler....Along with those layers of meaning, add that a high response to this Ascendant-ruling planet also enhances the smoothness of the relationship, helping the couple feel comfortable together in the world. A weak response undercuts them, leaving them feeling awkward and unnatural.

Forrest, Steven; Forrest, Jodie (2013-02-12). Skymates, Vol. II: The Composite Chart (p. 126). Seven Paws Press. Kindle Edition.

posted August 06, 2015 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I have a Saturn square AC right now, very far though 6 degrees.
My Venus and his Uranus are both conjunct our comp AC tight.....so far I really like our relationship. We have an easy flow together. It's still very new but we've only argued once and it was mild also.

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In mine with Saturn square ASC, I think it played out more that our relationship never got off the ground. Over a year and there was a constant barrage of reasons why we couldn't get together. it was never public, always hidden. We each are divorced and have kids, and our personal free time rarely lined up. He also was very very committed to his job.

posted August 06, 2015 09:19 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
(IQ told me that having a composite packed 4th house and conjunctions to the IC often means that the couple will work towards settling down together or often talk about living together in the future and is a TWINFLAME clue)

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Ehhhhhh. Depends upon how long ago he said that. We've made a LOT of changes in regards to twin flame astrology in the past 6 months; especially 4.

posted August 06, 2015 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Uranus conjunct the composite ASC is very interesting when you take into consideration the Jolie-Pitt Industrial Complex. Uranus is considered the higher octave version of Mercury, so rather then interpreting Uranus/ASC as doom-and-gloom (as astro.com is want to do) I'd say the couple can be seen as a force to be reckoned with. Jolie-Pitt were going to be together, married-man and single-mother stereotypes be damned, and when they forged as a unit, it was scandalizing to the general public, but it also titillated everyone, as well. ... They represented THE FUTURE~~ in all their beauty and individual power. Together, one knew that they could do anything they put their collective minds to. And how they've proven that throughout the years!

... If both have Uranian energy in their respective charts, the composite Uranus on the ASC is just a manifestation of that. In fact, maybe the composite Uranus is the reason for their merging - without it, both would feel stagnated, bored, and go on looking for a more electrifying partnership. Uranus can work like a Saturn in this regard for Uranian/Aquarian folk.

(Not to hijack this thread or anything!)

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Extremely well stated, and I can only hope 'fortune' favours us as well. The show is already going to be bold and innovating a new paradigm (multidimensional storytelling in a one-hour drama, for the win!) that I think we're hoping that will keep the public satiated enough -- should, fingers-crossed -- we manage to pull in decent numbers.

I'd like for us to be more forward in our approach as to what's REALLY going on behind the scenes and under the surface -- but there's more than just us to be thinking about. All in all, I think Jolie and Pitt did well. If there's any applicable 'model' out there, they're definitely close.

posted August 06, 2015 11:30 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
In mine with Saturn square ASC, I think it played out more that our relationship never got off the ground. Over a year and there was a constant barrage of reasons why we couldn't get together. it was never public, always hidden. We each are divorced and have kids, and our personal free time rarely lined up. He also was very very committed to his job.

Our relationship was not hell, though he had so many emotional barriers that every time we took a step forward emotionally, he closed off more. He went from very tender and sweet in the beginning to cold and uncaring at the end. I think that is him needing to work on himself though, and has nothing to do with Saturn.

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I'm sorry, that sounds very disappointing and frustrating. To me, I think your correct that sounds like his fears messing everything up more than anything. Maybe he wasn't ready to open back up and love again?

posted August 07, 2015 01:03 AM              

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Well, found a bit on URA conjunct ASC here.

'Uranus Conjunct Ascendant

The conjunction of composite Uranus and Ascendant signifies a relationship that will probably have a strong impact on your lives. The nature of that impact can vary tremendously, depending on your own attitudes.

First of all, this relationship will certainly expose you to a radically new kind of experience. It will not be the gentle consciousness-raising of Jupiter, but the jarring action of Uranus, the planet that challenges all your basic precepts about what life is and how it should be lived.

Your reaction to Uranian energies is determined by how rigid you both are. The more flexible you are toward change and new experiences, the more constructive Uranus is likely to be. If the two of you are rather rigid, its effects can be devastating.

A relationship with this aspect will cause great changes in your lives. It may be that the two of you would not ordinarily be expected to get together, perhaps because of some difference in your backgrounds. Or it may be that one of you is always challenging the other. Sometimes this aspect means that you have come together precisely because the relationship does challenge your usual modes of thinking. It becomes a kind of rebellion against the world, which raises a problem.

This aspect often signifies instability in a relationship, simply because consciously or unconsciously you have come together to challenge or upset your usual patterns of life. This is fine until you try to settle down into some regular pattern together. Then the same restlessness that brought about your relationship may serve to break it up.'

At first, while nodding, I was intrigued at some of the doomsaying. But then I noticed Jolie and Pitt seem to be doing rather well.

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I experienced Uranus opposite ASC with someone and it was a complete disaster. We had a ton of chiron conjunctions between us so I seriously doubt Uranus was the cause, but it still played a part.

The partnership was only stable in the very beginning. After real-life issues and day to day hoopla started popping up, the problems started.

I had this with an Aquarius Sun/ Venus/ Mars and I am a Scorpio stellium female with Saturn squares. Can you imagine the torture I had to endure?

Aquarius me are already thought to be aloof in their own right so adding Uranus to relationship synastry would just make things worse.

posted August 07, 2015 01:07 AM              

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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
I personally like Steven/Jodie Forrest's book on the composite chart, Skymates. This is what they wrote about the AC:

...Every partnership has a face it wears for the world. Secrecy or phoniness aren't the issues here — although the composite Ascendant is in charge of those tricks too, when circumstances demand them. Here’s the point:...In society, a certain amount of “editing” is appropriate, expected, appreciated— and lamented when absent... Intimacy, in other words, is a gift we bestow on a few trusted friends, not something we offer everyone indiscriminately. The composite Ascendant is the buffer between the couple’s secret world and the general public.

When two people make a conscious and individuated response to their composite Ascendant, they generally function well in social situations. They seem comfortable together. They've “got their act together.” A weak response to the composite Ascendant tends to have the opposite impact: there’s an awkwardness about the pair when they’re seen in public. Often, the effect is that they don’t seem right for each other — a statement which may not actually reflect the deeper realities of their relationship. Still, once a couple gets past the courtship phase, they must exist in society....

Each composite Ascendant suggests a set of specific shared activities and attitudes which can contribute mightily to the ease of the bond. They help the couple dance together naturally and without excessive damage to their toes, figuratively and literally too. Our consideration of the composite Ascendant should expand to include the Ascendant’s planetary ruler....Along with those layers of meaning, add that a high response to this Ascendant-ruling planet also enhances the smoothness of the relationship, helping the couple feel comfortable together in the world. A weak response undercuts them, leaving them feeling awkward and unnatural.

Forrest, Steven; Forrest, Jodie (2013-02-12). Skymates, Vol. II: The Composite Chart (p. 126). Seven Paws Press. Kindle Edition.

Not sure if that was really helpful, but maybe it's an interesting perspective for you on the role of the composite AC

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Wait.. So composite house rulers play an important role as well?

posted August 07, 2015 01:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:

For example, since the Composite Sun is the identity of the relationship and the Composite ASC is the face we project to the outer world as a couple, Sun square ASC would mean that who we are as a couple or us being a couple in general causes conflict in the outer world?

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In my case yes. We have a Cancer ASC-Juno-Mars conjunction squaring our 4H Libra sun.

posted August 07, 2015 02:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
What about Vertex on the composite DSC?

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posted August 07, 2015 08:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I'm sorry, that sounds very disappointing and frustrating. To me, I think your correct that sounds like his fears messing everything up more than anything. Maybe he wasn't ready to open back up and love again?

Was the Saturn/AC aspect tight?

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I said yes originally, but I just went and looked and it was 4 degrees. So maybe that was why? He wasn't and still isn't ready, but he's the one that keeps coming back. He disappears, then resurfaces. I let him come back once, but I won't again. Fool me once... Anyway, I think this is evidence that these aspects manifest in many different ways. We can speculate all we want, but in the end it could mean and show in some very different and unexpected ways.

posted August 07, 2015 10:08 AM            

And then the ruler of the DSC (Mars, in this case) in a grand trine with Saturn and Pluto, orbs reduced to 40%?

Not to mention Moon conjunct IC/Psyche/Saturn?