posted August 10, 2015 07:17 PM            

h40 Cupido
h41 Hades
h42 Zeus
h43 Kronos
h44 Apollon
h45 Admetos
h46 Vulkanus
h47 Poseidon

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014837-3.html

The Eight TransNeptunian “Planets” of the Uranian System:

H40- CUPIDO: Getting together. All groups: family, marriage, society, partnerships, organizations, corporations, collections. Art ... Cupido is a Super-Venus. The glyph is a combination of Venus and Jupiter, so where Venus means beauty, Cupido means art. Where Venus means love, Cupido means marriage. This is the planet of Togetherness.

Redefining partnerships such as marriage. Helps to create a sense of harmony when working in large groups or organizations. Relates to reestablishing family relationships that have been fractured.

H41- HADES: All that is unpleasant, useless, antique, or deeply buried. The occult ... Hades is misunderstood, because many think only of the negative meanings: dirt, garbage, sewage, sickness, poverty, mistakes, and all things ugly and sinister. There is a positive side that deals with antiquity, depth, and past lives.

Cleaning up karma, tapping into past life talents and experiences. Relates to those involved in step parent/child relationships.

H42- ZEUS: Controlled, directed energy. Machines; creativity; leadership. All things military. Combustion engines. Compulsion. Drive ... Zeus is like a loaded gun that is aimed. Even the glyph looks like a rocket. It signifies well planned efforts.

Relates to learning to channel one's anger into positive expressions. Becoming a voice of principle without becoming dogmatic or holier than thou. Getting in touch with one's inner truth. Relates to speakers, lecturers, etc.

H43- KRONOS: Superiority: the highest quality attainable; the ultimate in authority; standard of excellence; undisputed expert ... Zeus and Kronos traveled in very close square from 1900 to about 1970. All natal horoscopes from 1900 to 1950 have these two planets together on the dial. These two together speak of energetic, creative activity of the highest quality. Unfortunately, they also speak of warfare, armament, and military commanders. The world experienced both sides of this combination.

Reaching one's highest potential. Becoming one's highest authority. Learning to work within structures.

H44- APOLLON: The multiplier: expansion and spreading; growth and increase. Science, commerce, trade, industry, peaceful efforts ... The glyph is a combination of Jupiter and Gemini, and Apollon is truly a Super-Duper-Jupiter.

Relates to those seeking to reach the highest pinnacles of success.

H45- ADMETOS: The brick wall: steadfast, stable, immovable. Shrinking. Narrowing down to a sharp focus. Specialization. Endurance ... The glyph for Admetos shows an affinity for the sign Taurus and must be drawn with a base line to show the Admetos capacity to be steadfast, stable, and immovable. Admetos describes inertia, slow motion, and things that go around in a circle like phonograph records and ceiling fans.

Relates to musicians or anyone involved in an endeavor that requires repetition and frequent practice. Also for terminating circumstances that go round and round with no escape evident.

H46- VULCANUS: All that is mighty and powerful. Strength. Intensity... If a sentence has the word mighty or powerful in it, the Planetary signature will have Vulcanus in it. If the Sun and Vulcanus are together, the vitality, strength, and muscular power describe outstanding good health.

Finding great strength from within. The ability to overcome limitation through sheer determination and drive. Relates to focusing on the matter at hand and working it through.

H47- POSEIDON: Spirituality, truth, ideation, enlightenment, illumination. Wisdom and culture ... Poseidon has an affinity for Pisces and its glyph looks like a sideways version of Pisces. Poseidon is Super-Neptune without a negative side.

Embracing and living the highest expressions of spirituality. Relates to being involved in the Arts; enhances inspiration and creativity.

posted August 11, 2015 08:20 AM            

Apollon conjunct MC 0°18

posted August 11, 2015 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Natally Apollon is pretty significant for me, being on the MC

Apollon conjunct MC 0°18

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posted August 11, 2015 08:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For those interested, as the Uranian astrology has a very unique set of methodology (for example the emphasis on 4th harmonic aspects if I remember it right, might have evolved though)

http://arlenekramer.net/uranian_system.asp

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posted August 11, 2015 08:43 AM            

I`ve gradually opened a little more up about the idea of the hypothetical planets, though I still am skeptical as to how they were derived. But I trust the decades of experiences with them by other astrologers - to a degree at least.

I like to keep the orbs relaly tight, as they are so slow, I think even slower than Pluto occasionally. Though of course orbs extending one degree may be okay for personal planets and angles. as those are fast moving.

In my own chart I have interestingly CUPIDO on the same degree as my asteroid UNION (29 Libra), it also conjuncts Uranus at 1,5 degrees, with Uranus being mere minutes away from the 11th house cusp, using Placidus. which a true Uranian astrologer probably would not do. lol

ZEUS opposes my asteroid JUNO by 1,5 degrees.

But maybe more importantly

KRONOS is just 3 minutes off my natal SN and also exactly opposing Neptune. plus in a wide 3 degree conjunction to DESC.
Squaring Jupiter at 1 degree, trine Pluto at 1 degree.

And VULKANOS on 6 Cancer in my 7th opposes Venus on 6 Capricorn. I would not count the square to Pluto on 9 Libra anymore as it is clearly too generational.

It is however square my asteroid ALMA and CHARIKLO on 6 Aries on the IC. and clearly squares apollon on MC of course.

posted August 11, 2015 11:30 AM            

Him
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hCupido 6°19 Scorpio (7th house)
(Lust 6°22 Scorpio 7th house)

hAdmetos 7°26 Taurus (1st house)

Me
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hVulkanus 6°50 Cancer (7th house)

Venus 6°07 Capricorn (1st house)

posted August 11, 2015 01:49 PM            

Interestingly enough I noticed that in the composite POSEIDON is very close to Mars (0°30) on 23 Libra, and it is not THAT far away from the AMOR-CUPIDO-NN-conjunction (all on 20 Libra).

I found that interesting for several reasons:
a) 23 Libra. lol It`s Spica after all, isn`t it?

Yes I checked it for us SPICA is on 23°31 Libra, which means POSEIDON is closest with an orb of just 6 minutes.

b) Mars is the ruler of the SN and being placed close enough to the NN (2°22), apparently indicating that something from the past (SN-ruler) has to be revised or at least is connected to the furture path.

Hence I found it interesting to find Poseidon closely linked to that Mars.

"Spirituality, truth, ideation, enlightenment, illumination. Wisdom and culture ... Poseidon has an affinity for Pisces and its glyph looks like a sideways version of Pisces. Be careful drawing the glyph, so it is not mistaken for Neptune. Poseidon is Super-Neptune without a negative side. "

In this regard I should maybe also mention that part of our asteroid conjunction on the NN, is CAMELOT as well (0°45 from the NN only as well.)

I mean i find it intriguing that these asteroids, Amor, Cupido and Camelot plus the NN all gather on 20 Libra. not 19 Libra, not 21 Libra, all on the same degree. Why?

Coincidentally it is ALSO the degree of my natal DNA. Well his Pluto-Spirit is almost like a bracket for this thus. As he has Spirit on 19 Libra and Pluto on 21 Libra.

posted August 11, 2015 01:58 PM            

Poseidon libra@22.44(this lands on a very sensitive area in your chart to, plus our Vertex's are square)
Anti-Vertex libra@21.26
Destin libra@21.23
Chiron aries@24.14

Zues virgo@16.02
Dejanira virgo@15.32
Moon virgo@18.32

Admetos taurus@5.17
Sun saggy@4.28
Karma libra@5.49

Kronos gemini@11.11
Neptune saggy@11.15
Ceres gemini@9.20

Vulcan cancer@7.36
MC cancer@7.56

Cupido scorp@0.24
Mars gem@29.33
Your Uranus/Juno

posted August 11, 2015 02:44 PM            

The other placements are too far off for uranian placements but they do make for a number of parallels and contra-parallels.

In synastry

My Zeus conjunct their Mars and Parallel
My Poseidon/Vertex conjunct their Venus/Eros
My Apollon conjunct their Sun

Their Poseidon square my Sun
Their Zeus sextile my Sun
Their Hades conjunct my Moon too wide though for 3 orb max
Their Cupido conjunct my Pluto by 26 minutes
Their Hades trine my Sun and Parallel it.

posted August 11, 2015 02:56 PM            

"My-
AC libra@7.05
Apollon libra@6.09
Karma libra@5.49"

my MC 4°58 Libra
Apollon 5°40 Libra
BTW my Dr Karma is on 5.41 Libra
Oh now, so it is pretty cclose to my Apollon as well, and to your karma.

Seems Apollon is somewhat prominent for me and at the same time that into which I shall grow.

"Poseidon libra@22.44(this lands on a very sensitive area in your chart to, plus our Vertex's are square)
Anti-Vertex libra@21.26
Destin libra@21.23
Chiron aries@24.14"
Yes it does.

Poseidon 22.25 Libra
DNA 20.20 Libra
Kassandra 20.20 Libra
Musa 21.58 Libra
Sappho 22.06 Libra

Chiron 20.02 Aries
Phoinix 20.04 Aries

Arthur 21.36 Cancer
Sun/Moon-mp 21.31 Cancer

Vertex 21.28 Cancer
Eros 20.59 Cancer
Pan 21.02 Cancer
Destinn 23.13 Cancer

"Zues virgo@16.02
Dejanira virgo@15.32
Moon virgo@18.32"
Seems Zeus plays a role in your life, though the orb should be under 1 degree for your life to become a total Zeus-example. But the orb is tight enough to work in the respect that it has a clear effect, and maybe it`s good Zeus is not taking over your life.
BTW what we usually do with asteroids, we cannot do with the transneptunian: base the interpretation on the myth.
Their meanings are very clear in the uranian system. And for example the hCupido has not much in common with the asteroid, other than both deal with relating in some way.

"Admetos taurus@5.17
Sun saggy@4.28
Karma libra@5.49"
Admetos 4°30 Taurus
luckily not too closely configured, however it is quinkunx Mars at only 40 minutes and also Apllon of course.
And Mars is at the midpoint of Admetos/Vulkanus.

"Kronos gemini@11.11
Neptune saggy@11.15
Ceres gemini@9.20"
That is definitely a very interesting one

Kronos 10.12 Gemini
SN 10.09 Gemini
DESC 7.01 Gemini

Jupiter 11.12 Pisces
Ceres 9.32 Pisces (square yours)

Neptune 9.56 Sagittarius

"Vulcan cancer@7.36
MC cancer@7.56"
My Venus as well as my Isis-Osiris is on your IC.

my Vulcan 6.50 Cancer

my Venus 6.07 Capricorn

my Apollon 5.40 Libra
my MC 4.58 Libra

"Cupido scorp@0.24
Mars gem@29.33
Your Uranus/Juno"
My Juno isn´t there, but my Union is.

Cupido 29.28 Libra
Union 29.50 Libra
Uranus 1.21 Scorpio

Priapus 0.08 Leo

"Hades taurus@24.04
Mars/Venus midpoint leo@24.18"
Wow!

"Hades=Venus/Mars
Sexual activity occurs in unrefined or rough--possibly even illegal--circumstances. "
Is that true?
Well it does not need to be like that I guess, but I wonder if Hades on the Venus/Mars-mp gives the sexual attraction and activity a darker note, maybe also karmic?=
http://midpointobservatory.blogspot.de/2007/11/venusmars-midpoint.html

my hades 22°42 Taurus
doesn`t do too much in my chart I thought, until I realized....

Venus/Pluto-mp 22°36 Scorpio

posted August 11, 2015 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Natally I have Poseidon in Libra conjunct my Vertex 1 degree and parallel.

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I think we all have Poseidon in Libra, if we were born in the same century.

posted August 11, 2015 03:03 PM            

For one who's truly got their multidimensional capabilities intact, and potentially active, the Uranians will be prominent throughout the tropical, with some strong links to Draco and sidereal as well.

I can see you cocking your head, Ceri; 'but that gives a LOT of opportunities for configurations.' Sort of. I keep the orbs very, very tight when approaching things from the MM standpoint. Partile, to 1º30 at absolute most. The degree is the thing that 'transfers'. It's there, or it isn't. So if there's some involvement of a Uranian, it's significant.

posted August 11, 2015 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think we all have Poseidon in Libra, if we were born in the same century.

But the conjunction to Vertex is amazing.
I have the square (0°57)

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I don't know seems like a lot of old souls here.

posted August 11, 2015 03:42 PM            

My Neptune is on your NN, that's interesting.

Your Pluto/Venus midpoint is much like my Mars/Pluto...
Your midpoint is on my NN scorp@21.44

How do you interp these differently than traditionally?

As far as the dark sexuality...yes and no. I need intensity, I need that intensity to rattle my soul. That shaking me up releases deep pains that I need to heal, once they resurface and I become consciously aware of my fears and pain I can heal it.
I need things that allow me to revisit my traumas but I need to be in control and know I won't actually be hurt...then I need a lot of love at the same time. Not always fun!! And it's not regularly that I need that just every once I'm awhile I need to be shaken up.
Weird, I know! 😨
The only person that has ever been able to give me that balance effectively was my potential TF. His Venus was exact on my Hades and his Pluto trined my Hades.
His Sun/Moon midpoint was exact square his Hades and my Dr. Pluto is conjunct his Sun/Moon midpoint exact.

Do you think potentially you could have something similar and but you need that intensity in a love, a love that's so deep and intense it shakes you at your core and brings out your fears? Maybe it's obsessive aspect of the relationship that would bring up old stuck emotions or unseen fears that need to resurface?

posted August 11, 2015 03:59 PM            

CUPIDO=SUN/MOON (0º30) As this is near to my KARMA (2º) I take it to be the indicator -- even something of a mark of destiny -- regarding my multidimensional, soulmate relationships as well as karmic soulmates.

My twin's SNODE is conjunct this as well, by 1º30. Wide, so more ambient, but enough to 'hook in', as it's also parallel.

His CUPIDO, on the other hand, was stationed at his birth, and is conjunct my SUN by 2º.

Intriguing that you mention POSEIDON. He has POSEIDON conjunct CUPIDO (0º25) which, indeed, I've seen active in those born 3-6 months of his birth. When it makes a prominent conjunction, it could absolutely be a strong, multidimensional marker, as the one whose light or personal point will activate this Midpoint which carries the energy of a profoundly transformative spiritual relationship. Might might even be so bold as to say it's somewhat destined. So aspects to POSEIDON become increasingly important, since it can shed light upon how, why, and what.

KRONOS is frequently misunderstood until it's truly unlocked. Its physical manifestation is bureaucracy, government, 'red tape' and The Powers That Be. But once we learn to embrace our multidimensionality, it becomes quantum time: the full understanding of the Now, and the ever-present existenceof that 'now' experience. There is no longer past or future; it's all simultaneous, all happening at once. KRONOS, once elevated from the mundane, elevates all things. It represents the highest ideal we can attain, and can even give clues to what level we most achieved and how, in other lifelines.

He has KRONOS 0º03 conjunct his DSC. I think we can all glean what that means.

ZEUS is less understood, and, I think, absolutely fascinating in terms of interpersonal astrology, for the impact it can have, once we access it.

It's been referred to as everything from an aimed and loaded gun to a Super Mars, for its phenomenal, focussed, creative drive and ability. Most commonly referred to as 'controlled energy' it's got the punch of MARS/PLUTO directed to a very fine point. It's dicey, and not an energy to be explored lightly. Compulsion, issues with control and unresolved rage must be cleared before using ZEUS to its greatest benefit, or there can be domineering violence. ZEUS is able to rise to the top of whatever chain he pursues and warrants the adoration of all -- but only when he's overcome the most mundane use of this powerful force: anger. So, once the passion is unlocked, it's extremely important that it's properly channelled.

Multidimensionally-speaking, this 'Super Mars' is tackling many planes of existence at any given moment, creating, building, and pursuing more than meets the eye. This is Martian energy in its most evolved form, focussed to a laser with the aid of Plutonian control. Incredible drive -- when used wisely.

In synastry, it's superconjunct my VENUS, 1º00. That could be wide, except that the exact conjunction occurred only a few months following his birth. Adding to that the 0º10 parallel, it's definitely significant. (ZEUS is way out of orb of being conjunct my VENUS in the years around my birth; I wouldn't have had this in any other relationship.)

And, last but not least ... VULCANUS.

It's been said to be linked to HADES, regarding energy of the subconscious, but rather than 'the bowels', it's a bit more elevated. Closer to the surface -- much like that for which it's 'named': the volcano. That which collects beneath the surface, bubbling up, rising to the point of explosion and catastrophe.

So this incredible strength, power, and drive differs from ZEUS in that it's still buried deep within, surfacing through the points it might be conjunct or configured with. It lacks the direction of Plutonian energy, rather being a point of potential devastation at any moment.

For me, it's retrograde (karmic) and conjunct my TISIPHONE, 0º25. I don't think I need to explain that one -- now do I?

His, on the other hand, is conjunct his PALLAS (1º). When uncontrollable rage meets logic, precision, and strategy -- oh, dear. There's a reason this has gone very badly for me elsewhere. Tragically, in fact.

So be mindful of where your VULCANUS lies, and how. This is that point where, when the lid comes off, true devastation can result. We must learn to take a more controlled approach, akin to ZEUS. Developing its powerful strength and resilience to act as a support and rock for those who need us most; after all, it's the dormant volcano which makes a beautiful mountain.

posted August 11, 2015 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
As far as the dark sexuality...yes and no. I need intensity, I need that intensity to rattle my soul. That shaking me up releases deep pains that I need to heal, once they resurface and I become consciously aware of my fears and pain I can heal it.
I need things that allow me to revisit my traumas but I need to be in control and know I won't actually be hurt...then I need a lot of love at the same time. Not always fun!! And it's not regularly that I need that just every once I'm awhile I need to be shaken up.
Weird, I know! 😨

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posted August 11, 2015 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Hah. Not weird at all. In fact, that's what I do for a living, and, the focus of my research for the past few years. I feel these primal urges and instincts need to be acknowledged in a conscious, mindful manner. And I feel it's time that they be tackled properly, and humanity be given an understanding -- a map, or guidebook, if you will -- on how to do so. Correctly. For maximum benefit.

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Thank you!! This is not something I like to explain because most ppl don't get it, they just think I'm weird! Lol
In my process of ripping my guts out to heal from the brainwashing, I realized the process your speaking of was imperative to healing. Like you have to be hit again just as hard as you were hit originally in order to reach the deep down residual effects of the pain left inside you.
It makes sense, if you don't get scary intense again, you are not going to go deep enough to get the darkest of your pain pulled to the surface. The hole that was created in you is deep and intense you have to get back to that level of intensity to bring the crud/blackness that's been left in you back up and into your consciousness so you can see it and deal with it.

posted August 11, 2015 04:34 PM            

So I`d thought why not check it?

But whoa,

my POSEIDON/CUPIDO 25°57 Libra
my Dr Venus 25°57 Aries

it was impossible to NOT notice that.

it squares HIS Venus on 25°55 Capricron, orbs? Who needs orbs?

my POSEIDON/CUPIDO also falls near his JUNO/VENUS-midpoint on 26°47 Libra
While I usually do not consider midpoint to midpoint, his Juno/Venus-midpoint has been increasingly intriguing me, due to him having an opposition between his Venus on 25°55 Cap and his Juno on 27°39 Cancer.
It was kinda difficult to ignore how much this has been activated in recent encounters.

Nevertheless that was really something to find. lol

But of cuorse I was curious about his midpoint as well,
so his POSEIDON/CUPIDO 0°34 Scorpio

Okay so not only does it docks onto both our UNIONS (1°06 to his Union, 0°44 to mine). but it also conjuncts my Uranus with an orb of 0°46

In fact my Uranus/UNION-mp 0°36 Scorpio, just 2 minutes away. Wow!

And also well his UNION 29°28 Libra
my hCUPIDO 29°28 Libra. No orb at all!

and then in terms of our POSEIDON/CUPIDO-mps we find this here:

my POSEIDON/CUPIDO 25°57 Libra
his POSEIDON 24°50 Libra

his POSEIDON/CUPIDO 0°34 Scorpio
my CUPIDO 29°28 Libra

This also sort of involves our Adonis-Aphrodite-Venus-link interconnecting tropical and Draconic level as

his ADONIS 24°11 Libra
his POSEIDON 24°50 Libra
his Dr ASC 23°39 Libra
his Dr Saturn 25°19 Aries
my Dr Venus 25°57 Aries

and

my ADONIS 27°13 Libra
my Dr Venus 25°57 Aries
my Dr VULKANUS 26°40 Libra
his Dr Vertex 26°55 Aries
his Dr APHRODITE 27°31 Aries

and by square his tropical Venus is sort of in the mix as well on 25°55 Capricorn

posted August 11, 2015 04:37 PM            

Think of it like those old-timey 'hit the marker with the mallet to hit the bell' machines. (Even if they were rigged.) Trauma 'hits the bell'. Interestingly enough, if we can recreate the traumatic experience in a controlled environment, within a trust relationship, it's a bit like bungee-jumping. Our brain will process the same experience as free-falling, even though we aren't; we're safe this time. Each time we relive the experience in a controlled, restricted context we desensitise ourselves just a bit to the overall 'hit' we originally took in the traumatic experience.

I've explored this via BDSM for many years now, employing my background in psychotherapy, criminology (actually) and forensic psychology, which, I think, gives me a unique perspective -- as I'm talking about dealing with real trauma here. Not Fifty Shades. But true BDSM can be instrumental in healing those very deep wounds, yes. And whips and chains are hardly needed.

posted August 11, 2015 04:49 PM            

POSEIDON/CUPIDO makes a lot of sense in your case, too. It really does.