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Topic: Leeloo - butterfly in composite?
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Ceridwen
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posted August 19, 2015 08:23 AM
  
Leeloo, is that a butterfly in the composite?  [/URL] IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted August 19, 2015 08:49 AM
yes it is  very erotic one! I can't write know but I'll be back later to take a closer look  IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted August 19, 2015 09:27 AM
The presence on ASC, just like in Auby's case, makes the whole relationship under the "sign' of this Butterfly. It gives a platonic, spiritualized, dream-like, fantasy-like vibe to it, coming from the planets involved. It could remain a fantasy, a dream, but if it manages to take concrete form, it will always have something dreamy, platonic (of course, this doesn't mean there won't be intense physical attraction and tangible erotic life, for this could come from other aspects in the comp) about it.------------------
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Aunt Anomalia
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posted August 19, 2015 09:50 AM
I've seen this term before, good to know what it means. I spotted one in my composite, just showing.  ------------------
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Ceridwen
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posted August 19, 2015 02:38 PM
Thank you, Leeloo, can you elaborate a little why the butterfly configuration is a platonic one, you mentioned that in Auby`s thread, too, so I suppose it is a general feature?
Anyway, I find it a very beautiful configuration, as I realized that it comes together with a "lumping" of midpoints focused on some sort of axis through it.
In this case falling together with the ASC-DESC-axis.
ASC 1°11 Aquarius= Venus/Pallas 1°23 Aquarius
Venus/Nymphe 0°34 Aquarius
Pluto / Eros 29°57 Cancer
Pluto / Priapus 00°26 Leo
Pluto/ IC 00°54 Leo
Neptune/Pholus 00°04 Aquarius
Mercuy/Pholus 01°04 Aquarius
It sort of got my attention also because I just realized that we have c-ORCUS on 28°00 Cancer, widely conjunct the DESC, making a T-square or Grand Cross with
Chiron 29°49 Aries
Atropos 0°10 Taurus Union 29°39 Libra
naturally putting ASC-DESC on the midpoint of:
Chiron/Union 29°44 Cancer
Atropos/ Union 29°54 Cancer
while this looks decidedly "oh, can I change that back for something easygoing?", it also looks quite significant.
Yeah I guess in this connection (Union) pain (Chiron) was/is/would be inevitable (Atropos), Interestingly ATropos cuts here through Chiron. IP: Logged |
Delilah423
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posted August 19, 2015 02:52 PM
I don't see one in Composite, at least not involving the big guys, but I found an interesting one in the Davison:  IP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia
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posted August 19, 2015 05:17 PM
^I wouldn't count that Venus-Alma square.------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 19, 2015 05:18 PM
It's a "flying" structure, you need to get a bit immaterial, imponderable to fly So I see it as having a touch of Neptune, idealization, and this usually brings the platonic as well, Neptune deals with that. Whatever is felt, is going to be infused with a more spiritual tonality, but not a heavy one, as I see it. It makes you high and wanting to elope and fly with the person. Very 12th housish, but without the heavy touchy. I see it as a configuration allowing the couple to soar high together. It remains uplifting and unspoiled, so it can be a real gem, like a safe haven. Of course, I am not basing this on just my personal experience, but I have experienced a Butterfly in the synastry (not in the current now) and it was indeed so. Like a dream retreat for the two, or an island, and everything I tried to describe for Auby. I don't have many many examples yet, but I am pretty sure this is how it works. It looks like a very positive configuration to me. Of course, it will not annihiliate the more difficult aspects in a chart, and the challenges, but it could be a great atu, unless the relationship remains just a fantasy.For you Delilah I see this soaring comes from a karmic, previous life connection maybe, as if there is prior knowledge of your souls with each other, a deja vue, and this makes you experience the Butterfly, this makes you feel this flight, it's a comfortable area of recognizance. Can you confirm? I am not saying this is light and casual, on the contrary, it's highly transformative, elevating, and sometime sublimated energy, the way I see it. The Butterfly resonates with Quintile energy too, being a 5th structure (by this I mean it has four legs and a crossing point, the middle is a 5) But of course, it also resonates strongly with the 12th harmonic, at least the square/trine Butterfly. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 19, 2015 05:22 PM
Butterfly also implies chrysalis, so these relationships may take some time to form, despite the initial magnetic attraction brought by the structure. Also, they probably will never be boring, there is constant transformation and the stakes or the standards could be quite high, or getting higher with time. Just like with Neptune relationships, the couple can't fall in a rut for long, or be completely immersed in the mundane all the time; they would suffer.------------------
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Delilah423
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posted August 20, 2015 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
^I wouldn't count that Venus-Alma square.
Because Alma's an asteroid, or because it's beyond 3 degrees? If the latter, I generally agree with you (and think even 3 degrees may be too wide for most asteroid-related aspects), but sometimes I think LeeLoo may be right to go a little wider (if I understand her correctly) when we're looking at geometric patterns. And maybe especially when they are "hard" aspects. And maybe also especially when one of the planets is a personal planet. Certainly, Alma completes the pattern in this case, and the Alma symbolism "fits." IP: Logged |
Delilah423
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posted August 20, 2015 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
For you Delilah I see this soaring comes from a karmic, previous life connection maybe, as if there is prior knowledge of your souls with each other, a deja vue, and this makes you experience the Butterfly, this makes you feel this flight, it's a comfortable area of recognizance. Can you confirm?
Yes, absolutely. I actually have a past-life regression (ca. mid 1850s) from years ago where I was never quite sure who my mother was in that memory until we got together. And there's one from pyramid building times (that I'm not so certain about) but where I feel like he may be involved. Slavery involved in both memories, BTW, for whatever that may be worth. When we met again (for the second time in this lifetime, 2+ years ago and after 20+ years), there was this incredible, and indescribable, sense of coming home (and gentleness/safety) when he took my hand. He jokes about it, and still kind of denies it, but I know he felt something too. (Too much Taurus and Capricorn practicality getting in the way, I suspect). IP: Logged |
Delilah423
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posted August 20, 2015 10:30 PM
Finally, for those wondering about the references to Aubyanne's thread, and because LeeLoo gives such a great description of the butterfly in that thread, here is the link: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/003285.html IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 22, 2015 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Finally, for those wondering about the references to Aubyanne's thread, and because LeeLoo gives such a great description of the butterfly in that thread, here is the link: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/003285.html
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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 22, 2015 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Yes, absolutely. I actually have a past-life regression (ca. mid 1850s) from years ago where I was never quite sure who my mother was in that memory until we got together. And there's one from pyramid building times (that I'm not so certain about) but where I feel like he may be involved. Slavery involved in both memories, BTW, for whatever that may be worth.When we met again (for the second time in this lifetime, 2+ years ago and after 20+ years), there was this incredible, and indescribable, sense of coming home (and gentleness/safety) when he took my hand. He jokes about it, and still kind of denies it, but I know he felt something too. (Too much Taurus and Capricorn practicality getting in the way, I suspect).
Thank you for the story and the link, Delilah I have no problem with Alma here, and it fits the theme. Not to mention I was waiting for you to say this, but your Butterfly is "coming home" (its direction is the IC) ------------------
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