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Aurora_girl1990
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posted August 23, 2015 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Further 2 more people that i can think of that has been in my life despite the odds working against us:

My soul brother(as identified by Aubyanne on here):

my sPluto conjunct his nSun(orb 30 minutes)
His sNeptune conjunct my nIC (orb 11 minutes)
His sChiron conjunct my nSun (orb 10 minutes)
His sVenus conjunct my Aphrodite (orb 30 minutes)
My sChiron conjunct his nCeres(orb 35 minutes)
my sUranus conjunct his nEros(orb 9 minutes)
my sValentine conjunct his nSun(orb 3 minutes)

We've been through a lot in our personal lives yet we've managed to stay in touch over the last 4 years.


And a guy friend i've known since i was 19.It's odd that we're friends despite being of different classes and different semesters yet we managed to stay friends through it all.

my sVenus conjunct his nSaturn(orb 14 minutes)
my sNorth node conjunct his nSaturn(orb 33 minutes)
His sMercury conjunct my nSouth node(orb 19 minutes)
His sAphrodite conjunct my nSouth node(orb 20 minutes)

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Selenite
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posted August 23, 2015 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well that is interesting bc my Tropic saturn is in Scorpio at 2d39 and my SR Southnode is in scorpio at 25d11 so I think we have a past life together as my S-southnode conjuncts your S-sun and S-mercury...

My saturn conjuncts my DNA, Geisha and Adonis as well as tyche.


Ah! Another 2 Scorpio.
Aha oh probably. Why do you add Geisha? I do think I've been Japanese in a past life. Mine is conjunct my DSC 3 degrees. Tyche is opposite Saturn. My SR Geisha is 24 Cap conjunct my tropical Uranus 0deg and square my tropical Moon.

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hypatia238
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posted August 24, 2015 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Ah! Another 2 Scorpio.
Aha oh probably. Why do you add Geisha? I do think I've been Japanese in a past life. Mine is conjunct my DSC 3 degrees. Tyche is opposite Saturn. My SR Geisha is 24 Cap conjunct my tropical Uranus 0deg and square my tropical Moon.

Ha, your SR Geisha sextiles exact my Tropic Psyche so maybe we were Geisha soul friends or sisters.

Actually I have a ton of Japanese past life indicators, its uncanny really as I did not see that coming but it explains my fear towards Asian cultures from a young age and my fear of stabbing, everything indicates that my SR Nessus-TP Dejanira karma stems from there. What I can't figure out is if I was a Geisha or Samurai as there are strong indicators for both but there are more indicators for Samurai tbh.

JAPAN PAST LIFE:
SAMURAI 1185-1868
GEISHA 1800s-1950s
EDO 1603-1868

5815,9782,5141,1144,1047,55555,29391,498,1198,408,466, 6157,67,157,1125

MY NATAL:

SHINSENGUMI (5815) conjuncts my MARS!

SUN-EDO-HORUS-MOIRA STELLIUM

GEISHA conjuncts my SATURN-DNA

ODA conjuncts my chart ruler JUPITER-URANUS

NEPTUNE-LACHESIS-CHINA-TACHIBANA-PYRAMUS-MORPHEUS-AC STELLIUM

DEJANIRA conjunct ASIA

TOKIO conjunct TISIPHONE in the 12th house

DRACO KNIGHT-SOUTHNODE conjunct TROPIC SUN-EDO-HORUS-MOIRA

I haven't looked at the sidereal yet for any of these, that should be interesting. I should recheck my tropic to draco to see if there are more connections..

Well feel free to use the asteroid list I included and play with them for more confirmation of past life in Japan..


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posted August 24, 2015 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

Let's consider the most likely temporal influence of the sidereal chart. It has the feeling of 'what's past' or 'already done'. It's what we've incorporated, or already been or known. It's a part of us, rather than what we're developing if we tread our soul's path (Draconic), versus who we are here and now (tropical).

Ergo, the sidereal 'was' and the tropical 'is'. With the sidereal, we find influences that have been. So, the tropical is [b]holding onto or carrying these influences into the present lifeline. Most likely due to a powerful unresolved karma, or something that is binding the two together again.

Simply put, the tropical isn't letting go of the sidereal, and is trying to resolve past debts, clear karma, or needs to stay 'connected' to the sidereal.


So do you think that the Draconic is maybe what will be if sidereal left over karma carrying over into the tropic is resolved and cleared?

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Selenite
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posted August 24, 2015 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Ha, your SR Geisha sextiles exact my Tropic Psyche so maybe we were Geisha soul friends or sisters.

Actually I have a ton of Japanese past life indicators, its uncanny really as I did not see that coming but it explains my fear towards Asian cultures from a young age and my fear of stabbing, everything indicates that my SR Nessus-TP Dejanira karma stems from there. What I can't figure out is if I was a Geisha or Samurai as there are strong indicators for both but there are more indicators for Samurai tbh.

JAPAN PAST LIFE:
SAMURAI 1185-1868
GEISHA 1800s-1950s
EDO 1603-1868

5815,9782,5141,1144,1047,55555,29391,498,1198,408,466, 6157,67,157,1125

MY NATAL:

SHINSENGUMI (5815) conjuncts my MARS!

SUN-EDO-HORUS-MOIRA STELLIUM

GEISHA conjuncts my SATURN-DNA

ODA conjuncts my chart ruler JUPITER-URANUS

NEPTUNE-LACHESIS-CHINA-TACHIBANA-PYRAMUS-MORPHEUS-AC STELLIUM

DEJANIRA conjunct ASIA

TOKIO conjunct TISIPHONE in the 12th house

DRACO KNIGHT-SOUTHNODE conjunct TROPIC SUN-EDO-HORUS-MOIRA

I haven't looked at the sidereal yet for any of these, that should be interesting. I should recheck my tropic to draco to see if there are more connections..

Well feel free to use the asteroid list I included and play with them for more confirmation of past life in Japan..


Interesting!
I do not think I was a Geisha... Definitely a warrior of some kind.. In Japan? Who knows.. I did find these interesting:

Atlantis conj. NN 3deg, square ASC 0deg
Tokio conj. Chiron 4deg, Square Sun&Mercury 1deg
Tachibana conj. MC 0 deg, opposite Venus 1deg, conj. Pallas 1deg
Knight conj. ASC by 5 minutes
Shinsegumi conj. Ceres 0 deg, conj. ASC 3deg, trine Sun&Mercury 0deg
Edo sq. Saturn 0deg
Oda sq. MC 2deg. It is retrograde in my 12H, conjunct my sidereal Mars 0deg

Draco Oda is conj. my tropical Sun 0deg, rx

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posted August 24, 2015 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Interesting!
I do not think I was a Geisha... Definitely a warrior of some kind.. In Japan? Who knows.. I did find these interesting:

Atlantis conj. NN 3deg, square ASC 0deg
Tokio conj. Chiron 4deg, Square Sun&Mercury 1deg
Tachibana conj. MC 0 deg, opposite Venus 1deg, conj. Pallas 1deg
Knight conj. ASC by 5 minutes
Shinsegumi conj. Ceres 0 deg, conj. ASC 3deg, trine Sun&Mercury 0deg
Edo sq. Saturn 0deg
Oda sq. MC 2deg. It is retrograde in my 12H, conjunct my sidereal Mars 0deg

Draco Oda is conj. my tropical Sun 0deg, rx


I think I was a Onna-bugeisha actually which is a female samurai warrior, that is what is starting to look like as I am finding more aspects to support this including Nakano conjunct exact my southnode and Knight:

"Nakano Takeko was a 19th century onna-bugeisha or Japanese female warrior samurai who was fully trained in the martial arts and who remains one of only a few true female warrior samurai in all of the history of Japan. Takeko fought against the Japanese Imperial Army in the Boshin War, serving with great distinction until she took a bullet to the chest. She then ordered her sister to behead her and bury it, denying her enemy the privilege."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakano_Takeko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-bugeisha

What is your Nakano doing in your chart? curious..

Those Oda and Edo aspects are interesting!

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3l3n
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posted August 25, 2015 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, with..

my sd Saturn conjuct her nVenus/Amor
my sd Pluto conjuct her nMercury
my sd Moon conjuct her nMars/Eros
my sd Mars/SN/Vesta conjuct her nLust
my sd ASC conjuct her nVertex
my sd Vertex conjuct her nSN
my sd Psyche & Eros conjuction conjucts her nLilith

and

her sd Mars/Eros conjuct my nPluto on IC
her sd Lilith conjuct my nMoon
her sd IC is conjuct my nMercury
her sd Aphrodite conjuct my Mars/SN/Vesta

Seems like she's resolving quite a lot of past debts & karma through the relationship we had. Me also I guess. I've got a gut feeling it's not done yet.
How do we understand what the reasons are and when it is over?

I really am tempted to see the Draconic side to this.

Very interesting and great topic Aubyanne!

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Selenite
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posted January 17, 2016 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well that is interesting bc my Tropic saturn is in Scorpio at 2d39 and my SR Southnode is in scorpio at 25d11 so I think we have a past life together as my S-southnode conjuncts your S-sun and S-mercury...

My saturn conjuncts my DNA, Geisha and Adonis as well as tyche.


Hey, hypatia.. I just realized that my Part of Karma is at 2.31˚ Scorpio! I think this explains it~!
It's ASC + Saturn - Sun.. (the same as Part of Tragedy..)

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