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Topic: I Can't Let Go // The Hidden Message of Sidereal-to-Tropical Conjunctions
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Aubyanne
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posted August 20, 2015 02:18 PM
  
Quick. In the next thirty seconds, think of 1-3 individuals in your life whom are still somehow in it, despite conflict, chaos, and the odds consistently working against you -- which include, many times, the other person?Now. How many near-to-exact conjunctions (partile) are there between you from one sidereal to the other's tropical and vice versa? Hypothesis: there will be several, and each will have crucial meaning, rendered by the nature of the points involved. These act as a kind of karmic signature between you; a stamp upon one made by the other. But who? And what? And why? Let's consider the most likely temporal influence of the sidereal chart. It has the feeling of 'what's past' or 'already done'. It's what we've incorporated, or already been or known. It's a part of us, rather than what we're developing if we tread our soul's path (Draconic), versus who we are here and now (tropical). Ergo, the sidereal 'was' and the tropical 'is'. With the sidereal, we find influences that have been. So, the tropical is holding onto or carrying these influences into the present lifeline. Most likely due to a powerful unresolved karma, or something that is binding the two together again. Simply put, the tropical isn't letting go of the sidereal, and is trying to resolve past debts, clear karma, or needs to stay 'connected' to the sidereal. There are a few reasons why this can happen, and we'll explore those through cross-system synastry, focussing upon the transdimensional element of sidereal-to-tropical configurations and aspects. IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990
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posted August 20, 2015 02:59 PM
This is interesting.I've never thought of it that way before.What if i have a sideral composite north node conjunct my natal descendant-does this mean the 'past' relationship is affecting my current relationships? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted August 20, 2015 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Aurora_girl1990:
This is interesting.I've never thought of it that way before.What if i have a sideral composite north node conjunct my natal descendant-does this mean the 'past' relationship is affecting my current relationships?
I like that! But let's look at it this way; if it's the scNNODE to your DSC, then that's the spiritual direction of the relationship (or association) is something you're carrying with you into your current concept of commitment and relationship. IP: Logged |
mereiposa
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posted August 20, 2015 08:08 PM
How does this correspond-looking at my sidereal, I have personal planets at all the signs and degrees that I find show up frequently in synastry between the tropical chart of myself and others. Let me see if I can explain- I often find the planets and significant asteroids of other people showing up at the same signs and degrees in their charts (IE 5 scorpio, 5 degrees cancer, 14 degrees Leo). These are points that I do not have anything. I first looked at other aspects, like trine or square, but it wasn't really significant. Then I considered midpoints, and that was true. A lot of these turned out to be midpoints. But when I pulled up my sidereal, my sidereal personal and outer planets are falling on or very near these same points in my tropical chart (venus on 14 leo, ASC 3 degrees scorpio, sun 2 degrees Cancer). So I am repeating past habits and patterns? I am drawn to others that hit those points, and my personal tropical midpoints are on these degrees and signs too. How does that factor in to your theory? IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 20, 2015 08:49 PM
hahaha just took a quick look and his sidereal Pluto conjuncts exact my tropical Sun and his sidereal venus conjuncts by less than one degree my tropical Sun! Our love was extremely intense from the beginning and it has never died. Further his sidereal AC conjuncts my tropic Venus and Mars and his sidereal Moon opposes my tropic Venus and Mars. Also his sidereal Sun-Uranus conjuncts my tropic Saturn. Add: wow my sidereal southnode conjuncts his Sun exact.
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Orange
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posted August 20, 2015 09:44 PM
Well, the astrologers do advice refraining from comparing sidereal to tropical as this is like comparing apples to oranges, but...
with my guy, his sidereal Moon conjuncts my Sun, South Node and DSC, his Saturn conjuncts my chart ruler and his Sun conjuncts my Vertex.
On my side, my Venus conjuncts his Moon, and my Pluto conjuncts his ASC. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 20, 2015 10:26 PM
My sidereal vertex-valentine conjuncts my most recent crush tropic Sun-moon-mars stellium and his sidereal sun-moon-mars stellium conjuncts my tropic Aphrodite.My sidereal Saturn conjuncts my husband's t-Sun, his S-venus conjuncts my t-Eros exact, his s-mars-uranus conjuncts my tropic pluto, his s-pluto conjuncts my sun... I have to say A I really feel you are unto something with this. Great thread, thanks for starting it. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted August 21, 2015 12:07 AM
All tight orbs, always under 3 degrees, usually under 2:My sidereal Saturn is tightly conjunct my husband's tropical sun, which is conjunct his sidereal Mercury-Pluto. All of this conjunct my rectified ASC as well. His sidereal Mars-Eros conjunct my tropical Saturn. The Saturn contact both ways is interesting since I'm a Capricorn. Also, my sidereal Juno conjunct his Mars. His sidereal sun opposes my tropical sun. --- With my best friend since childhood: Her sidereal chart has my name asteroid exactly conjunct my tropical Neptune; her sidereal Neptune conjunct my tropical NN. Her sidereal Saturn opposes my tropical sun.
--- With the brother I talk to the most: His sidereal sun on my rectified tropical IC/sidereal NN
His sidereal Psyche (and moon, possibly) on my tropical sun
His sidereal Mars on my rectified ASC
His sidereal Saturn on my Mercury Looks like it's always Saturn making a hit.  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 21, 2015 01:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
[BNow. How many near-to-exact conjunctions (partile) are there between you from one sidereal to the other's tropical and vice versa? [/B]
What is the max.orb you would allow? Also would you say in synastry it is the tropical planet who feels sort of attached to the sidereal planet, maybe because they feel they can learn something from the other person? Personally I have several conjunctions in my natal from sidereal to tropical that I find interesting. sValentine conjunct Uranus 1°46 sSun conjunct AMOR 0°36
sVesta conjunct ASC 0°03
sVenus conjunct Neptune 1°48
sVenus conjunct NN 1°34 sMoon conjunct Sun/Moon-mp 1°12
sMoon conjunct Avx 1°12
sCeres conjunct Moon 1°52
sJupiter conjunct Moon 0°17
sJuno conjunct Psyche 1°28 sIC conjunct Ceres 1°02
sIC conjunct Jupiter 0°48 sAvx conjunct Sun 0°09 sUranus conjunct MC 1°56
sUranus conjunct Pluto 2°11 IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990
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posted August 21, 2015 01:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I like that! But let's look at it this way; if it's the scNNODE to your DSC, then that's the spiritual direction of the relationship (or association) is something you're carrying with you into your current concept of commitment and relationship.
*nods*The scNNode also conjuncts my north node(orb 2).Which is quite fitting as it means that the spiritual direction of that relationship is something i'm also carrying with me into my current Spiritual direction in life.It's aligned so to speak am i right? IP: Logged |
bumblebee
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posted August 21, 2015 04:33 AM
So because my sidereal moon conjuncts his tropical mars - this is the reason I can't let go of him?IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted August 21, 2015 05:57 AM
My most complicated, abusive, fun, sad relationship to date was with a Leo Sun/Aries Moon. We lived together for 7 years and knew eachother for 2 years prior to that. (This was 8 years ago so we have known eachother for 17 years). He still pops up every now and then despite being married; to say "hi". His sidereal is: Cancer Sun, venus
Pisces Moon
Cap Mars, NN
Taurus Saturn
My natal is:
Cancer Sun, venus, Mercury
Cap Moon
Pisces Dsc
Taurus Jupiter, MC, SN I would think that would be pretty significant for what you are asking? IP: Logged |
Keela
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posted August 21, 2015 06:04 AM
Slightly sweeping toward this maybe, too tired and no time to check the chart just now, but I remember there is a sidereal Moon conjunct my Moon and sidereal Sun on the antiscion of my Sun. This when the same person's draconic Sun conjuncts my Sun and my sidereal Sun is the antiscion of their tropical Sun. I can't say how such a pattern would work, if antiscia count from the sidereal and how much, but when it's mutual and everything as if vibes, it gets a little weird or something that I take notice of. My sidereal Moon is on my tDSC, 6 Aquarius, contrascion ~2 from their tSun so not valid for this in any way. On the wide side but in the patterns or overall, I notice it near there, of course. Not sure about anything feeling-related or getting along with the square-fest otherwise, but I suppose the underlying patterns can account for the "Oh, you. Come here, bro" style desire to hug the dork, as if as there was "recognition" from wherever, although only getting to know the other. A sense of "Siblings are potentially annoying but you love them, anyway, so a logical guess is he's a brother of some sort" I suppose. I don't know how much there'd be a feeling of having connections somewhere through "just" having Sun conj dSun (2 opp Moon) and whatever other little things. I just see that there are crisscrossing things here and there, as if adding to whatever. With the sidereal Moon conjunct my current one& Sun conjunct their draconic Sun, it's as if alternating parts or channelling something the other is doing as well, in a slightly different way or on a slightly different schedule. Especially when my SN is conjunct their Sun, too, as if something of my past done there already, or tied to what they're up to, whether you'd call it karmic debts or whatever. Same person with whom there was the "NN parallel Valentine but Valentine 6' wide of being parallel the other NN" pattern. Something somewhere. Also worth noting is probably my sidereal AVX-VX angle being my tSN-NN angle. ASC is drac MC, too, the same spots hit by angles from one level to another. Sidereal Saturn on East Point, too. *shrug* My sidereal IC conjunct their Karma, for another contact, when their sidereal MC is conjunct my draconic Karma. Not sure what we're doing or where or how. Sidereal Psyche on my Anteros conj his Amor I'd noticed before as well, but as said, too tired to check charts for comparisons otherwise. My sidereal Eros conj his Vertex I think. Their sidereal Mars on my Sun/Moon midpoint? My Jupiter & draconic Vertex conjunct their Sun/Moon MP. IP: Logged |
Selene
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posted August 21, 2015 07:07 AM
I'll check this out with my Scorpio. His SD SUN Libra 19'36
My TR SUN Libra 19'26 His SD MOON Capricorn 20'16
My TR SATURN Capricorn 19'01 His SD MERCURY Libra 17'01
My TR SUN Libra 19'26 His SD VENUS Sag 6'38
My TR IC Sag 6'03 His SD JUPITER 16'09 Gemini
My TR MARS 14'07 Gemini His SD SATURN 15'10 Sag
His SD NEPTUNE 15'35 Sag
My TR MARS 14'07 Gemini
My DR SUN 15'15 Sag His SD URANUS 8'05 Sag
My TR BML 8 Sag
My TR IC 6'03 Sag His SD PLUTO 20'28 Libra
My TR SUN 19'26 Libra His SD NN 26'47 Capricorn
My TR CHIRON 26'47 Cancer His SD ASC 17'17 Taurus
MY TR Pluto 16'35 Scorpio
My SD BML 13'42 Scorpio
His TR SUN 14'12 Scorpio
My SD Uranus 11'19 Sag
His TR ASC 11'57 Sag IP: Logged |
Selene
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posted August 21, 2015 07:20 AM
With Mr.UranusInterestingly, again his SD planets are hitting my natal. His SD SUN 11'26 Pisces
My TR DSC 12'49 Pisces His SD MOON 5'09 Capricorn
My TR URANUS 5'56 Capricorn
His DR VENUS 5'50 Capricorn His SD VENUS 20'11 Aqua
My TR VERTEX 21'52 Aqua His SD SATURN 21'02 Libra
My TR SUN 19'26 Libra His SD Pluto 6'35 Sag
My TR IC 6'05 Sag His SD NN 15'29 Taurus
My TR Pluto 16'35 Scorpio His SD IC 11'38 Virgo
My TR ASC 12'57 Virgo IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 21, 2015 09:16 AM
I only looked for partile conjunctions and those occupying the neighbouring degrees
his sidereal - my tropical
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the partile conjunctions
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(1) his sSun conjunct my tAMOR on 2 Sag, in 12th
TWO SEDATE MEN, SMOKING PIPES IN COMFORT, PLAY CHESS.
Re-creation of a world of manifestation through symbols and intelligence. Schooled confidence in the judgment of self. (2) his sVenus conjunct my tVESTA on 1 Cap in 1st ROSE-WINDOWS IN A GOTHIC CATHEDRAL; ONE, DAMAGED BY WAR. Underlying resistance to change in life foundations. Faithfulness to self. Testimony of beauty against brute force. (3) his sPHOLUS conjunct my ttrue BML on 28 Aquarius in 3rd house METAMORPHOSIS COMPLETED, A BUTTERFLY SPREADS ITS WINGS. Immortality of the real self. Graduation into a new realm of being. Confident projection of self; lack of self-confidence.
(4) his s ATROPOS conjunct my tKARMA on 16 Gemini in 7th
HEAD OF A YOUTH CHANGES INTO THAT OF A MATURE THINKER. Progression from robust participation in outer things to a realization of deeper realities. Inborn wisdom. Steady growth.
(5) his sUNION conjunct my MC on 5 Libra in 10th
IN A TRANCE, A PILGRIM BEHOLDS HIS IDEALS MADE CONCRETE.
Inevitable confrontation with the concrete results of one's ideals. Lessons to be learned from it. Willingness of heart. my sidereal - his tropical: partile conjunctions (1) my sMC conjunct his tJupiter on 10 Virgo in 6th A TYPICAL BOY, YET MOULDED BY HIS MOTHER'S ASPIRATIONS. Efficacy of overtones in life; of ideals in giving reality or depth to outer material things. Conformity to inner light.
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my s Chiron conjunct his tASC on 25 Pisces in 1st
TWO RAPT LOVERS AND A PIDLOSOPHER WATCH THE NEW MOON. Polyphony of values as man lives at various levels of consciousness. Inner call to realization. Transmutation of meaning.
(3)
my sATROPOS conjunct his tVenus on 25 Cap in 11th
RADIANT SPRITE DANCES UPON THE MIST OF A WATERFALL. Transcendence of spirit over body and environment. Lightness of understanding. Inexhaustible soul resources. Effervescence. (4a) my sVx on his far Sun/Moon-mp on 27 Gemini BANKRUPTCY GRANTED TO HIM, A MAN LEAVES THE COURT. Release of self from collective pressure impossible to bear. Determination to re-gather forces for new attempt. Protection.
(4b) my sAvx on his Sun/Moon-mp on 27 Sag
NCIENT BRIDGE WITNESSES TO THE SKILL OF FORGOTTEN MEN. Enduring elements in understanding as symbols of the community invisible of man, dead and living. Steady coordination. -----------------------------------------
other conjunctions, not partile, but occupying neighbouring degrees: his sMC conjunct my AMOR in 12th
his sMoon conjunct my Mars in 12th his sUranus conjunct my UNION in 10th his sNeptune conjunct my VALENTINE in 12th his sCERES conjunct my Jupiter in 3rd
my sMC conjunct his Mars in 6th
my sMC conjunct his AMOR in 6th
my sAvx conjunct his Sun in 9th
my sAvx conjunct his Moon in 10th
my sVertex conjunct his IC in 4th IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted August 21, 2015 04:21 PM
Since our knowledge of the stars is barely starting and we are heading towards an age of space exploration, I consider the sidereal the future. Nevertheless, I found the file of my synastry and I am posting it here, maybe it is helpful to you, since we are a special case  My tropical/his sidereal
Cap
ASC 19.16 Pallas 22 /Juno 19.31 Venus 13 Ceres 22 Aqua
Psyche 3.45 /Mercury 3.06
Lilith 13.46/ PholusAlma 13.30 Pisces
Ceres Pholus Juno Jupiter stellium starting at 5/ DSC 4 Aries
Alma 17.24/Amor 15.12 Taurus
IC 16.44/Mars 13.13 Gem
Eros 5.30/MC/Saturn 3.34 Cancer
Cupido 23.25/ Priapus 23.03 Virgo
Venus 6.20/ASC 4 Lust Valentine Pluto up to 11
Sun 20.23/Vesta 20.49 Libra
Mars Pluto 0-5/ Uranus 2.43
Valentine 22.13 Uranus 25.51/Moon 22.06 Scorpio
Vesta/MC 11-16/Neptune 15.14 Sag
Neptune 7/IC 3.34 His tropical/my sidereal
Virgo
ASC 28.18/Valentine 27.50 Uranus 1 Libra Libra
Valentine/Lust 2-3 Pluto 5.51/ Lust 5.13
Vesta 15.12/Vesta 17.10
Uranus 27/MC 22 Scorpio
Moon 16.29/Neptune 12.38 POF 19.12 NN 19.58 Sag
NN 24.01 IC 27.57/ ASC 24.53 Pallas 28.10 Aqua
Venus 8 Juno 14 Ceres 17 Eros 20/Ceres 11 Pholus 14 Juno 16 Jupiter 17 Pisces
Sun 21.44 Karma 23.44 Vertex 25. 43 DSC 28.18/Alma 23 Chiron 29 Aries
Chiron 18.41/ IC 22 Taurus
Amor 9.35/Eros 11 Gem
Saturn/MC 27.57/ Saturn 23 DSC 25 Cupido 29 Leo
Priapus 17/Venus 12
Union 24/Sun 26
EDIT: Partile
ASC/Juno
Psyche/Mercury
Lilith/PholusAlma
Cupido/Priapus
Venus/Pluto
Sun/Vesta
Valentine/Moon
MC/Neptune (almost)
ASC/Valentine
Pluto/Lust
Vesta/Vesta
Juno/Juno (is 2, but worth mentioning)
Karma/Alma
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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...
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Selenite
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posted August 21, 2015 04:46 PM
This is amazing! I’m so confused!Person 1 (Soul friend)
My Sidereal - Their Tropical: Sun (26.9 Scorpio) and Mercury (25.34 Scorpio) conjunct Mercury (26.35 Scorpio) His 8th house ruler
North Node (19.44 Libra) conjunct South Node (20.48 Libra)
Saturn (11.59 Aqua) and KARMA (12.51 Aqua) conjunct Mars (10.15 Aqua) and Valentine (13.26 Aqua)
Vertex (9 Sag) conjunct Saturn (7.46 Sag)
Eros (19.57 Scorpio) conjunct ASC (19.31 Scorpio) and Venus (18 Scorpio)
Moon (1.53 Aries) conjunct Amor (3.15 Aries)
Cupido (Trans-Neptunian) in 1.56 Scorpio conjunct Sun (2.56 Scorpio) Their sidereal to my tropical:
DC (24.58 Aries) conjunct Moon (26.34 Aries)
Chiron (26.21 Taurus) conjunct Lilith (27.42 Taurus)
Saturn (13.12 Scorpio) conjunct North Node (14.24 Scorpio)
Amor (8 Pisces) conjunct Saturn (6.39 Pisces) and KARMA (7.32 Pisces) --- Person 2 (Soul Sister)
My Sidereal — Their Tropical ASC (22.0 Cancer) conjunct ASC (22.22 Cancer)
Venus (14.22 Libra) and IC (13.13 Libra) conjunct Sun (14.41 Libra) and IC (14.17 Libra)
Sun (26.9 Scorpio) and Mercury (25.34 Scorpio) conjunct Moon (27.0 Scorpio), Vertex (27.43 Scorpio) and Pluto (26.21 Scorpio)
BML (24.28 Aries) conjunct BML (29.49 Aries)
Amor (7 Pisces) conjunct Saturn (6.32 Pisces)
Mars (5.27 Leo) conjunct Mars (1.59 Leo)
Eros (19 Scorpio) conjunct Venus (17.31 Scorpio)
Their sidereal to my tropical:
Lilith (25.44 Aries) conjunct my Moon (26.34 Aries)
Venus 22 Libra conjunct my Valentine 22 Libra
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(Weird---- Her sidereal moon is in 2 Scorpio, the same as Person 1’s Sun and my ex’s Moon, and my Tisiphone)
(I really should have looked up 'partile' before I typed all this out)  Composite sidereal Sun with Person 1 is 2 degrees Scorpio:
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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 21, 2015 04:48 PM
Very interesting, Selenite ------------------
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Selenite
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posted August 21, 2015 04:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Very interesting, Selenite
Yours, too! The future? Why do you say that? Edit:
Oh, I misread, sorry, got excited. I thought you meant that sidereal represented the future as opposed to the past. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted August 21, 2015 04:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Selenite:
Yours, too! The future? Why do you say that?Edit:
Oh, I misread, sorry, got excited. I thought you meant that sidereal represented the future as opposed to the past.
yes, that's what I think  why the past? ------------------
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Aubyanne
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posted August 21, 2015 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Orange:
Well, the astrologers do advice refraining from comparing sidereal to tropical as this is like comparing apples to oranges, but...
When it comes to Vedic astrology, which uses sidereal calculations, we can't really compare the two zodiacs as they're so different, apples-and-oranges is an apt description. However, when first exploring the multidimensional (quantum) method, I found a distinct temporal anchoring in sidereal placements in direct relation to the tropical. And thus, so long as we're doing sidereal charts -- not divisional (Vedic) charts, Jyotish, we're still in enough similarity to be useful. I'm looking forward to going through the thread, and seeing the responses! IP: Logged |
Aurora_girl1990
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posted August 21, 2015 07:14 PM
In my charts with a guy i love called L i have the following:Edited : I just realized it said partile conjunctions. Planets: His sKarma is on the midpoint between my nSouth node and nAscendant.
Asteroids:
All below are partile(same degree,same sign)
His sDestinn conjunct my nCeres(orb 1 minute)
My sNessus conjunct his nKarma(orb 3 minutes)
His sAngel conjunct my nSaturn(orb 5 minutes)
My sDestinn conjunct his nVenus(orb 8 minutes)
My sSun conjunct his nAphrodite(orb 8 minutes)
His sJuno conjunct my nChild(Orb 10 minutes)
My sAtlantis conjunct his nChiron (orb 12 minutes)
His sKarma conjunct my nAphrodite(orb 18 minutes)
My sAlma conjunct his nSun.(orb 24 minutes)
His sEros conjunct my nIC(orb 31 minutes)
His sJuno conjunct my nDejanira(orb 37 minutes)
My sVesta conjunct his nJuno(34 minutes)
Non-partile(according to the defination i found online)
My sAngel conjunct his nDestinn(different degrees with an orb of 30 minutes)
His sAtlantis conjunct my nNessus(orb 45 minutes)
His sAphrodite conjunct my nDescendant (orb 1 degree 5 minutes)
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hypatia238
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posted August 21, 2015 08:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Selenite:
This is amazing! I’m so confused!Person 1 (Soul friend)
My Sidereal - Their Tropical: Sun (26.9 Scorpio) and Mercury (25.34 Scorpio) conjunct Mercury (26.35 Scorpio) His 8th house ruler
North Node (19.44 Libra) conjunct South Node (20.48 Libra)
Saturn (11.59 Aqua) and KARMA (12.51 Aqua) conjunct Mars (10.15 Aqua) and Valentine (13.26 Aqua)
Vertex (9 Sag) conjunct Saturn (7.46 Sag)
Eros (19.57 Scorpio) conjunct ASC (19.31 Scorpio) and Venus (18 Scorpio)
Moon (1.53 Aries) conjunct Amor (3.15 Aries)
Cupido (Trans-Neptunian) in 1.56 Scorpio conjunct Sun (2.56 Scorpio) Their sidereal to my tropical:
DC (24.58 Aries) conjunct Moon (26.34 Aries)
Chiron (26.21 Taurus) conjunct Lilith (27.42 Taurus)
Saturn (13.12 Scorpio) conjunct North Node (14.24 Scorpio)
Amor (8 Pisces) conjunct Saturn (6.39 Pisces) and KARMA (7.32 Pisces) --- Person 2 (Soul Sister)
My Sidereal — Their Tropical ASC (22.0 Cancer) conjunct ASC (22.22 Cancer)
Venus (14.22 Libra) and IC (13.13 Libra) conjunct Sun (14.41 Libra) and IC (14.17 Libra)
Sun (26.9 Scorpio) and Mercury (25.34 Scorpio) conjunct Moon (27.0 Scorpio), Vertex (27.43 Scorpio) and Pluto (26.21 Scorpio)
BML (24.28 Aries) conjunct BML (29.49 Aries)
Amor (7 Pisces) conjunct Saturn (6.32 Pisces)
Mars (5.27 Leo) conjunct Mars (1.59 Leo)
Eros (19 Scorpio) conjunct Venus (17.31 Scorpio)
Their sidereal to my tropical:
Lilith (25.44 Aries) conjunct my Moon (26.34 Aries)
Venus 22 Libra conjunct my Valentine 22 Libra
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(Weird---- Her sidereal moon is in 2 Scorpio, the same as Person 1’s Sun and my ex’s Moon, and my Tisiphone)
(I really should have looked up 'partile' before I typed all this out) Composite sidereal Sun with Person 1 is 2 degrees Scorpio:
"A broken bottle and spilled perfume"
Well that is interesting bc my Tropic saturn is in Scorpio at 2d39 and my SR Southnode is in scorpio at 25d11 so I think we have a past life together as my S-southnode conjuncts your S-sun and S-mercury... My saturn conjuncts my DNA, Geisha and Adonis as well as tyche. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 21, 2015 09:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
When it comes to Vedic astrology, which uses sidereal calculations, we can't really compare the two zodiacs as they're so different, apples-and-oranges is an apt description. However, when first exploring the multidimensional (quantum) method, I found a distinct temporal anchoring in sidereal placements in direct relation to the tropical. And thus, so long as we're doing sidereal charts -- not divisional (Vedic) charts, Jyotish, we're still in enough similarity to be useful. I'm looking forward to going through the thread, and seeing the responses!
So my SR NESSUS conjuncts my TP DEJANIRA by a little under 2 degrees. Would you say that is meaningful? Transit Thisbe and Pyramus are on that conjunction right now near Sirius. EDITED: NESSUS ASPECT DEJANIRA KARMA: (So it seems...) My Aspects
SR Cyllarus R in Capri @18d29
SR Hylonome in Cancer @17d52
SR NESSUS in Cancer @15d39
TP ASIA in Cancer @14d20
TP Dejanira in Cancer @13d48
TP Vulkanus in Cancer @12d10
Ex TP TISIPHONE in Cancer @12d00
Ex TP LACHESIS in Cancer @10d41
Ex DR Sun in Cancer @10d30
My DR Sun in Cancer @8d26
Husband TP LACHESIS in Cancer @8d14
Husband TP TISIPHONE in Cancer @9d39
Husband TP Tokio in Cancer @7d10
Husband TP China in Cancer @6d59
Husband TP Moon in Cancer @6d51 Further:
My DR DEJANIRA in Aries @24d06
My EX TP NESSUS R in Cancer @24d09 (conjuncts Ceres & squares his Venus-Pluto)
My EX SR DEJANIRA in Libra @21d41
MY EX SR KARMA in Libra @24d39
My Husband TP NESSUS in Cancer @23d52
My Husband TP DEJANIRA in Libra @25d42
My Husband TP VERTEX in Libra @23d59
My Husband TP Pluto in Libra @21d09
My GEISHA Conjuncts my Husband's KARMA Exact and sextiles exact his ASIA.
My Ex has Karma conjunct Dejanira by 3d. It gets more interesting:
SR Dejanira in Gemini @19d17
TP Northnode in Gemini @19d41
EX SR TISIPHONE in Gemini @17d32
EX SR LACHESIS in Gemini @16d13 TROPIC YOD: Tropic Dejanira in Cancer @13d48 degrees inconjuncts tropic Tisiphone in Sagittarius @13d and Cyllarus in Aquarius @12d59. That explains why Transits involving Capricorn around 10d tend to bring situations that make me feel like a victim; such transits oppose the apex of the YOD activating the YOD which aspects my SR NESSUS-HYLONOME. I am meant to work out in this life Dejanira Karma from previous life. ^I have two pronounced freckles in my body one in my right nipple and one in my right shoulder, I read freckles can indicate karma associated with how one died in a past life. IP: Logged |
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