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Topic: Mars In Libra----bad reps
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StillTippin Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 24, 2015 01:53 PM
I swear it seems like every site I go to Mars in Libra always gets a bad reputation. I have a Mars in Libra and I've seen other mars in Libra ppl. I always see the assertive side even tho some have talked with two tongues I still seen them stand their groundThe aggression is there and can b just as animalistic just wanna know why the bad name lol why do ppl look at this placement so badly and is there anybody on here with theus placement? IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 527 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 24, 2015 02:08 PM
The assertiveness is definitely there, and I find some of their best qualities to be their diplomacy and assertion of justice/fairness in an otherwise unfair situation, but these qualities can also be their worst.In my experience, a person with a badly aspected Mars in Libra can be obnoxiously fair, to where they will start an argument to "fight for fairness" where there was none before (ie. Group: "Isn't that man terrible for cheating on his wife?!"; Mars in Libra: "...well maybe the wife deserved it!") Ummmm what??? Sure you're being fair, but you're waving a red flag in front of the bull with that one. It's as if they like to argue for the opposite side just to get the group (or individual) riled up. Also, their indecisiveness can drive a person batty. As in, you're trying to make a decision on window curtains - "Red? Yellow? Short? Long? Maybe they're cheaper elsewhere? Maybe I should think about it. We'll come back another time." Arghhhhhhhhhh. IP: Logged |
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posted August 24, 2015 02:40 PM
My boyfriend has Venus and Mars in Libra and it has been a GODSEND.They try SO HARD to be diplomatic. And yeah, they can be a little passive-aggressive at times. But I'm comfortable with that. I certainly prefer it to outright aggression!!! I have a lot of experience with Mars-Pluto people. Yep, much better than outright aggression. Much, much better. IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 527 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 24, 2015 02:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aquacheeka: My boyfriend has Venus and Mars in Libra and it has been a GODSEND.They try SO HARD to be diplomatic. And yeah, they can be a little passive-aggressive at times. But I'm comfortable with that. I certainly prefer it to outright aggression!!! I have a lot of experience with Mars-Pluto people. Yep, much better than outright aggression. Much, much better.
The person I was referring to has Mars conjunct Pluto in Libra. I can see what you're saying because it can be a rather peaceful placement I imagine as they're not the types to get into a bar fight, but the way my example manifests is he will REALLY assert his fairness, as in...try and MAKE you see his other point of view instead of discussing it, if that makes sense...
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GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6303 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted August 24, 2015 03:27 PM
<~~~ this mars in libra has been in a bar fight, and was married to a MIL who has also been in bar fights. Alcohol can do strange things.... IP: Logged |
StillTippin Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 24, 2015 03:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by GypseeWind: <~~~ this mars in libra has been in a bar fight, and was married to a MIL who has also been in bar fights. Alcohol can do strange things....
I'm glad to see another harden mars in Libra lol I've been in a lot of scraps when I was younger just hate the general description we get not all of us throw our tough side away IP: Logged |
StillTippin Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 24, 2015 03:36 PM
I think the environment I grew up in affected my view on this or maybe I got too much of my father in meIP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 12704 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 24, 2015 03:58 PM
Mars in Libra is like the "coat of arms" for my family ~ so many people in my immediate family have this placement, either in tropical or draconic, it's uncanny.So of course I like it. Except when we get passive aggressive. That's bad. Otherwise it's my favorite placement for Mars. Feels like family.
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GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6303 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted August 24, 2015 05:41 PM
So much depends on the other placements and what the disagreement is over. A lot of MILS have scorpio in their charts. I know a guy who is a scorpio Sun and Venus. If someone hits on his gf you can bet he'll have something to say about it. For me it's if you mess with my sense of justice... like picking on someone defenseless, then I can't seem to stifle my reactions. Again, adding alcohol may intensify this effect. Also, I have no trouble deciding what color this or that to buy, or little things like that. It's the BIG decisions that make me crazy. Then I make everyone else crazy, going back and forth, back and forth.... IP: Logged |
StillTippin Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 24, 2015 07:06 PM
I feel so dumb I just figured out what MIL stood for lol what u said is true never thought about that b/c I have a Venus in Scorpio conjunct Pluto tho I'm no possessive(I don't think)I'm very very protective over my matesIP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 15417 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 24, 2015 07:43 PM
I have problems with every day decisions, it's true pink or blue? stuff like that...I see equal advantages in each option. Not so much with big decisions though. It's actually an interesting fact, it has to do with Libra seeing equal value in both sides of the coin. I don't know who and why said this is a weak Mars, I can die any time for my convictions or for defending someone or justice, I am actually a danger to myself. It's such a warrior Mars! passive-aggressiveness...not so much, at least not something obvious or I am not aware of it. But diplomacy is a higher form of passive aggressiveness too, and typical for this Mars. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala New Profiles IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 12704 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 24, 2015 08:13 PM
It could be the way Mars is aspected, or a decan thing? Some Libra Mars people are not passive-aggressive at all, in my experience... Others really do take the cake as the MOST passive-aggressive people I ever met. Or I wouldn't have mentioned it. No one here is passive-aggressive that I have seen ....nor do I think of myself as such ...but it's only my draconic Mars in Libra, so maybe I don't qualify for the thread. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 15417 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 24, 2015 08:20 PM
Oh, yes, Mars in Libra and Libra placements can be quite passive-aggressive, I agree.I was talking about myself I'm not sure if it defines me, this part. Not that I'm aware of. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2223 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 24, 2015 08:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by margym0o: The assertiveness is definitely there, and I find some of their best qualities to be their diplomacy and assertion of justice/fairness in an otherwise unfair situation, but these qualities can also be their worst.In my experience, a person with a badly aspected Mars in Libra can be obnoxiously fair, to where they will start an argument to "fight for fairness" where there was none before (ie. Group: "Isn't that man terrible for cheating on his wife?!"; Mars in Libra: "...well maybe the wife deserved it!") Ummmm what??? Sure you're being fair, but you're waving a red flag in front of the bull with that one. It's as if they like to argue for the opposite side just to get the group (or individual) riled up. Also, their indecisiveness can drive a person batty. As in, you're trying to make a decision on window curtains - "Red? Yellow? Short? Long? Maybe they're cheaper elsewhere? Maybe I should think about it. We'll come back another time." Arghhhhhhhhhh.
Omg this is exactly all the MiL I know.I have Mars in Capricorn. I don't go on and on and talk about my decision. Once I've considered all aspects, I act and I don't explain much. It drives my sister nuts because she needs to argue. Today she told me a problem and I suggested that she made lists. She said she doesn't use lists and as our argument goes on, she said she does but doesn't even know why she said she doesn't in the first place. She's also a libra sun-Mars conjunct Virgo Mercury. Talks about unnecessary needs to argue while my cap Mars was just trying to be helpful
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StillTippin Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 25, 2015 12:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: It could be the way Mars is aspected, or a decan thing? Some Libra Mars people are not passive-aggressive at all, in my experience... Others really do take the cake as the MOST passive-aggressive people I ever met. Or I wouldn't have mentioned it. No one here is passive-aggressive that I have seen ....nor do I think of myself as such ...but it's only my draconic Mars in Libra, so maybe I don't qualify for the thread.
Yea I hate we get labeled that. I know for me and others I've seen with it, it can be an aggressive placement sometimes the opposite is the one that has a problem with it. I can't speak for any other mil but I've never had a passive nature but hey it is what it is.
I know I've seen mars in Scorpio ppl back down and go behind a persons back to take action against em. I've seen mars in Aries ppl back down(had to step in and take up to one) Maybe I'm just taking it personal lol or maybe I just choose to identify with being a Libra too much I've just seen other mil ppl act aggressive and assertive so **** lol IP: Logged |
StillTippin Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 25, 2015 12:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown: [QUOTE]Originally posted by margym0o: [b]The assertiveness is definitely there, and I find some of their best qualities to be their diplomacy and assertion of justice/fairness in an otherwise unfair situation, but these qualities can also be their worst.In my experience, a person with a badly aspected Mars in Libra can be obnoxiously fair, to where they will start an argument to "fight for fairness" where there was none before (ie. Group: "Isn't that man terrible for cheating on his wife?!"; Mars in Libra: "...well maybe the wife deserved it!") Ummmm what??? Sure you're being fair, but you're waving a red flag in front of the bull with that one. It's as if they like to argue for the opposite side just to get the group (or individual) riled up. Also, their indecisiveness can drive a person batty. As in, you're trying to make a decision on window curtains - "Red? Yellow? Short? Long? Maybe they're cheaper elsewhere? Maybe I should think about it. We'll come back another time." Arghhhhhhhhhh.
Omg this is exactly all the MiL I know.I have Mars in Capricorn. I don't go on and on and talk about my decision. Once I've considered all aspects, I act and I don't explain much. It drives my sister nuts because she needs to argue. Today she told me a problem and I suggested that she made lists. She said she doesn't use lists and as our argument goes on, she said she does but doesn't even know why she said she doesn't in the first place. She's also a libra sun-Mars conjunct Virgo Mercury. Talks about unnecessary needs to argue while my cap Mars was just trying to be helpful [/B][/QUOTE] I have alotta respect for mars in Capricorn. When I think of that mars I think of Marshawn Lynch and Brett Favre, that's tough determined mars. And I like the authenticity they never seem to lose.
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6868 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 25, 2015 12:46 AM
Judge Judy is a Libra sun and stellium, includes Libra Mars. She also has a Pisces moon. If you've never seen her in action I picked this ep at random cutting right into her, and I don't think any would call her spineless, passive aggressive, or indecisive: http://youtu.be/Tx4-SMA09tk?t=14s
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6868 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 25, 2015 01:10 AM
A moon and Mars Libra I know was braver than most people when all her friends either turned against her or abandoned her because there was a principle she had to stand up for. She'd later become the leader of her group. She's calm and diplomatic, however, but also firm. People saw the silk glove that was usually gentle and yet if pushed she showed her silk glove was filled with a fist of cold steel. Thing is most people are easily fooled by appearances. So if someone throws on the "I'm the boss" act people will believe it even if he quickly backs down or otherwise changes his mind on a regular basis. Someone who is more mature about it (not to be confused with allowing one's self to be abused) is seen as spineless because they're not a jabbering ape spitting profanity, or alternately if a person keeps their own counsel until they've had time to verify or otherwise think about how to proceed first before doing so then they assume that person is in agreement and when they find out that's not the case they assume the person is thus two-faced which is because they made a mistake about the LiM rather than LiM was being sneaky or passive aggressive about it. I'm not saying it's like that all the time but it does happen quite a bit. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2223 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 25, 2015 01:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Judge Judy is a Libra sun and stellium, includes Libra Mars. She also has a Pisces moon. If you've never seen her in action I picked this ep at random cutting right into her, and I don't think any would call her spineless, passive aggressive, or indecisive: http://youtu.be/Tx4-SMA09tk?t=14s
It's not that ppl are saying MiL is not brave. I think it's good for writing, singing or artistic talents. Becky G has it and she accomplished a lot despite very poor background and being very young. In Judge Judy example, it's good that's she's a judge because libra =justice and court system. Just that every Mars sign has its own tendency that's considered annoying. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6868 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 25, 2015 03:07 AM
I hear a lot of bad things about Mars In Libra (usually just vids or posts as most authors and even bloggers try to avoid doing that as it hurts their marketability/popularity) and since the specific bad things weren't specified here in this thread I just went with what I thought it was.Example of MiL anger described: http://youtu.be/_f9HCXoIh-k?t=1m50s That's what I thought of (not that it's the only place I've read or heard that) when I read this: quote: Originally posted by StillTippin: I swear it seems like every site I go to Mars in Libra always gets a bad reputation. I have a Mars in Libra and I've seen other mars in Libra ppl. I always see the assertive side even tho some have talked with two tongues I still seen them stand their groundThe aggression is there and can b just as animalistic just wanna know why the bad name lol why do ppl look at this placement so badly and is there anybody on here with theus placement?
And thus my response. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 15417 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 25, 2015 06:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown: It's not that ppl are saying MiL is not brave. I think it's good for writing, singing or artistic talents. Becky G has it and she accomplished a lot despite very poor background and being very young. In Judge Judy example, it's good that's she's a judge because libra =justice and court system. Just that every Mars sign has its own tendency that's considered annoying.
I'm sorry to say, but for some reason many people don't seem to know this Mars is associated with important world leaders and military men and women (militating for something, but military strategists too), as I said, it's a warrior, strategist Mars. And Libra placements in general is a marker of world leaders, but particularly this Mars. Examples are abundant and self-explanatory: Nelson Mandela, 14th Dalai Lama, Abraham Lincoln, Bill Clinton, Pope Francis, Pope John Paul, Margaret Thatcher, Winston Churchill, John D. Rockefeller, Christopher Columbus, Genghis Khan, William the Conqueror But arts can be a strong forte too, I agree. However I see this Mars energy to manifest mostly in fighting for justice, diplomacy, politics, law, military strategies (Libra ruled by Venus) ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala New Profiles IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 12704 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 25, 2015 07:08 AM
^ Aw it's such a cool Mars.Oh and please don't forget Elvis. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 15417 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 25, 2015 07:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: ^ Aw it's such a cool Mars.Oh and please don't forget Elvis.
Point taken... ...and Elvis, the King ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandala New Profiles IP: Logged |
StillTippin Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 25, 2015 08:30 AM
Well thanks for yall responses!!! IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2223 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 25, 2015 08:35 AM
Jimmy Fallon is another one.My favorite is the American philosopher Judith Jarvis Thompson. I wish we have a more extensive database of writers. I suspect she's also a scorpio moon. The bad reps are due to libra mars being traditionally viewed as "weak," or that mars is uncomfortable in Libra. Which is sorta true when it comes to passive aggressiveness. When it comes to bad reps, Cancer mars takes more bashing than any other placement quote: I have alotta respect for mars in Capricorn. When I think of that mars I think of Marshawn Lynch and Brett Favre, that's tough determined mars. And I like the authenticity they never seem to lose.
Me too I have aries moon so my cap mars does temper my impulses or else I would never accomplish anything IP: Logged |