posted September 03, 2015 04:01 PM            

(I'm outside)

posted September 03, 2015 05:27 PM            

What made you believe you were soul mates?

posted September 03, 2015 09:11 PM            

As to being single for your entire life -- I assure you, Moonfish, you're just at the beginning of that life. I would hardly consider this failed soulmate relationship a nail in the coffin of your interpersonal happiness, or let it damage your hope for a lifelong committed partnership or marriage.

I'd advise against the search for a Twin Flame, however, unless you've got some very clear reason to be doing so. That can saddle all relationships with unfair expectations, and lead us to fail to see the forest for the trees.

Falling in love for the first time is hardly an indication of a Twin Flame connexion. Sure, it can certainly happen, but it'd be one factor out of several, and not the most significant among them. Soulmates, on the other hand, often are the ones to 'jolt us' out of a pattern of behaviour that's counterproductive to our path, and holding us back.

I'd say you're far from behind the curve, experiencing this for the first time in your early twenties. More like right on schedule. Those of us who are evolved don't bother with superficial and casual relationships, leading most of our peers to be uninteresting or ineffective partners for us, until maturing to a certain age. Usually, that's the mid-twenties; in many cases, early thirties.

Giving up the dream of what isn't realising into a fulfilling relationship, however, is the wisest thing to do. Sometimes, soulmate relationships are merely there to teach us how to love ourselves -- which means turning against those who aren't doing so, and releasing them from the expectation of having to do so.

posted September 03, 2015 09:27 PM            

However, I know in my case, I will always be there for him when he wants to come around, because we are friends above all, and that's what friends do. I think it's important to remember that you can't control when and how things will play out in relationships. You can only love the other person, and most importantly, yourself.

Something I've noticed is that even though I feel very strongly for him, I am still healing so much from my upbringing, that if everything had gone exactly how I wanted it to right from the start, I know we would have fizzled out by now. I know that things are taking a long time because we simply aren't ready for each other.

At this point, I am *almost* ready, or so I think, and so it seems like the seas should be parting for me. But in reality, he doesn't want anything with me romantically right now (I guess?), so I need to let him come around on his own time, if at all. The important thing is that we're there for each other, and that we love each other.

posted September 03, 2015 10:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Hi Selenite
I'm sorry to hear you are going through a similar situation. As a Scorpio I can say that we value our space no matter how much we care about someone...an annoying but accurate trait. He's a lucky guy to have such a patient and understanding person in his life.
I agree 100% about just focusing on loving him and myself. Even though I'll always have strong feelings for him I don't know if we'll ever speak together again (it's up to him), but I'm honestly glad that im content with the idea of moving on. Thank you for sharing, I really hope things will improve w/ your Scorpio.

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Right, being content with moving on is so much better than being stuck in love purgatory. I think this is very much a Venus/Pluto thing.. (I share the conjunction in my synastry too, in Scorpio. He is Pluto, and his Pluto is also on my IC.) I seem to have reached the point of 'moving on' many times now, and yet, it doesn't seem to be ending any time soon, at all. I wonder if this is how you feel deep down? (Like, way deep down, I guess, since you are content.) Every time we are 'content' with letting go, the whole thing does a 180, and we start again a little stronger.

posted September 03, 2015 10:33 PM            

The toughest thing for me to overcome has been my inclination towards introversion. To some degree, I've embraced it with age, but to another extent, I'm sure that it shifted several relationships to extra-dimensional and alternate lifeline status, as I was too occupied with private, solitary pursuits. But I can say there's little wrong with it; it's merely been a choice. I do feel it's led me to develop only relationships with crucial soul connexions, fulfilling soul contracts, clearing karma, and preparing for ultimate union with my Twin Flame. Though, I really have come to detest that phrase ....

I long for something else; that which properly conveys my feelings for a man literally from my dreams, who 'appeared' in my fiction, being a fixture of my subconscious since childhood. Who's loved me so completely and consistently since the beginning, elevating me beyond what I thought possible.

posted September 03, 2015 10:39 PM            

I looks briefly at your synastry and aspects, and was curious which ones specifically would point to a soul mate relationship. It was a genuine question, as I have read and studied so many different viewpoints on this topic. It is helpful for me to get varied perspectives on the topic and I learn from my own experiences as well. Any specifics one can point out in this thread would be very helpful to me indeed!

posted September 04, 2015 01:11 AM            

Nonetheless, to have the presence of a pairing such as PLUTO/PERSEPHONE does recall the myth rather strongly, indicating its themes being inherent in the synastry. Both, in this case, would feel 'dragged through Hell' and forced to transform, leaving behind their naïveté, whilst growing and maturing.

The other dual aspect -- the MOON/JUPITER conjunctions, though a tad wide, are a definite indicator of friendship, mirth, and good humour.

There is one aspect, however, that has been attributed to both soulmates, as well as Twin Flames, and that's VENUS/PLUTO. Namely, the conjunction. I do have to wonder, however, if the MARS/PLUTO in a woman to a man's VENUS isn't a bit overwhelming, unless she's very experienced with her own animus. If she's naturally a dominant sort, and is commonly 'in charge', his VENUS may fall rather easily in line. Otherwise, it's tough when the genders are reversed.

SUN conjunct VENUS is always a lovely aspect, though, for harmony and aesthetics.

posted September 04, 2015 07:09 AM              

I'd like to take a look here, but you need to post the synastry without aspect lines to all and with a standard orbfact, not 45%. When it comes to pattern completion, aspects up to 7 and even 10, work.

I need to see the planetary configuration, for most astrologers, this is the one telling the story, the rest is just details.

There are indications here you chased this Scorpio, and I am afraid no Scorpio male (especially stellium) reacts positively to that.

Just to give you an example here about your orbfact: you have a close and perfectly valid Moon Moon opp, which is an extremely significant aspect, an aspect that can be felt even if you are on the Moon and he on Earth. But in what you posted, your Moon appears as unaspected.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted September 04, 2015 09:16 PM            

Here is our Synastry without decreasing the orb and aspecting all lines

posted September 04, 2015 11:38 PM            

The main concern with me is that this guy is my band partner. So the 'waiting' has seeped into my professional goals too, and I have pretty much zero tolerance for people getting in the way of those. I could almost wait forever for love, but this is my dream.. Hah.

posted September 05, 2015 06:23 AM              

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala