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Ceridwen
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posted September 25, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that some astrologers say to only consider 4th harmonic aspects (conj, opp. square) and never ever compare solar arcs in synastry.

However, while i think they have a point in terms of the 4th harmonic aspects, as these are prone to reflect events and get attention, I start thinking the other ones, especially the trine, will play their role, too. possibly in a more subtle way, but they are there nevertheless.

As for never comparing solar arcs, I don´t follow their reasoning, it is said that they highlight the times when something happens in your life (seen by the triggering of natal planets) and that this is the reason they are not applicable to synastry with someone elses chart.

I, however, think that if they are indicating a certain timequality in my life, bringing things to the foreground, depict where I, as a person, am standing in life NOW, how can it NOT have an impact on people I am connected to?

So putting that aside, solar arcs are rather regular in motion, as they are taking the arc of the Sun only and apply it to any other placement.

THIS however will bring certain planets in synastry into contact with each other, which seem to have a larger orb.
there is a direct relation between age difference and orb of an aspect, if they are equal (into a certain direction), those wide orbed, or wider orbed, aspects will become partile (under 1 degree) and hence getting triggered simultaneously along the path of time.


For example:
P and me have an agedifference of 5 years, him being the younger one.

Now ANY aspect with an orb of 5 degrees, in which HIS planet has the higher degree, will become exact in solar arc, and now and then they will trigger something in our natals simultaneously.

This is true for example for his Mars trine my Venus.

his Mars on 11 Virgo trines my Venus on 6 Capricorn with an orb of 4°58, which I consider valid, but sort of widish.

However, his sa Mars is trine my sa Venus by only 0°07/ 0°06.
The tightening of the orb being the result of 1) the presence of a 5 degree aspect
2) his planet having the higher degree
3) him being 5 years younger than me.

the solar arc of his Mars and my Venus are SYNCHRONIZED in this way.


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The aspects do not always remain the same tightness of orb over life (reason for that being that the Sun is not always moving ahead with the same speed).

in the case of that synchronized Mars-Venus-trine this is not really important, as our Suns ARE pretty equally in speed (we started out with a 7 minute orb between sa Mars and sa Venus, and now and for the coming 25 years. lol it will be a 6 minute orb).


However for my parents there is a bit more of a difference.

They have been born about 1,75 years apart, with my Mom being the younger partner.
They have a synastric Sun-Moon-opposition at about 2 degrees, with my Mom`s Sun having the higher degree - - - hence, if you remember my equation I did for P and me, their Sun-Moon-opposition should have tightened in solar arc. And it has.


At the day of their marriage that 2 degree opposition of my Mom`s sa Sun to my Dad`s sa Moon had an orb of only 0°10!!!
Now that is what I call tight!


However, it is 40 years later now, and by now this has separated visibly, but still being well under 1 degree - the orb of her saSun to his saMoon nowadays is 0°53.


But still her sa Sun is most definitely synchronized with his sa Moon, possibly making this aspect even more important as it is already.

BTW when they got married:

her sa Sun 26°13 Scorpio
his sa Moon 26°02 Taurus

which overlayed her natal Vertex-axis

her n Vx 26°33 Scorpio


So, during that event of marriage/ wedding there was a very clear triggering going on.

When such a synchronized solar arc synastry aspect moves into exact 4th harmonic aspect to an important natal planet or angle, there might be a window of opportunity happening in which this aspect can manifest very clearly.

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So now, if you are still following me. lol, how is your synchronized solar arc synastry?
Which aspects get tightened?

(but please keep the orb to under 1 degree for solar arc).


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posted September 25, 2015 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another example;

for my best friend and her husband one of their synchronized solar arc aspects is this:


his sa ASC conjunct her sa DESC 0°07
which had just 2 years before passed over their composite Saturn. Saturn rules her DESC and his ASC natally, so it is clearly attached to that synchronization, and it was 2 years before they decided to get married and moved in together.


Additionally
his saVertex conjunct her sa Ceres 0°45

this had just a few months before moved over his natal Juno.

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posted September 25, 2015 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another more prominent example.

Leeloo,
do you remember the Newman - synastry with the wide Sun-Moon-aspect?

They also have a very strong synchronized Sun-Moon-aspect!

his sa Moon conjunct her sa Sun with 0°52, an aspect that would get much closer over the following 50 years of their marriage.


plus

her sa Juno being conjunct his sa ASC
her sa Juno opposite his sa Pluto

this was aligned with her natal Mercury-Mars on his natal SN.

plus justh ad passed over their composite Venus.

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posted September 26, 2015 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome topic!
Wow, the Newmans is such an amazing example for this....so this wouldn't have happened if their Sun Moon had been differently placed.

I'll have to study my parents and the implications of the 9 years difference. Particularly their Venus Mars DW conjunction, it's similar with the Newmans, in the sense that they have

Venus Mars conj (1-2) but on the other side, Venus Mars conj out of orb, 11 deg.

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posted September 26, 2015 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

My current SA with PM (he is older by 6 months)

sa moon approaching his natal ASC

my Mars conj his ASC is conj between SAs too

our SA Pluto conj his nMoon and my nMC
my SA ASC 29.39 aqua now, moving into Pisces


his SA Moon is exactly on his natal IC right now, 27 Sag

his SA Mars 18.23 Cancer, my DSC 19 Cancer, that's a nice one...and his Venus 18.40 Pisces, which makes for his trine here

and his sa Neptune 20 Cap on my ASC

his sa Ceres is exactly on his natal DSC right now, in Pisces

and his sa Juno 24.50 on his natal Vertex 25 Pisces, spot on this one!

apparently more action for him though


Questions: is composite SA worth some looking into? What about natal SA to composite?

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posted September 26, 2015 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I'll have to study my parents and the implications of the 9 years difference. Particularly their Venus Mars DW conjunction, it's similar with the Newmans, in the sense that they have

Venus Mars conj (1-2) but on the other side, Venus Mars conj out of orb, 11 deg.


The Venus-Mars might not coming to exactness (depending on the speed of their sun I guess) but I suppose it will come much closer, if the younger partner has the planet in the higher degree at least.


Naturally there are usually not all that many solar arc synchronized aspects, as we really look for the tight ones (only those can trigger anything simultaneously), but those that are there, should probably be added to the natal synastry, and considered if looking for timing of events.

Example is my first (face to face and talking) meeting with P.

Well, it looks like we met a year too late.


my sa Venus 10°10 Aquarius
his sa Mars 10°03 Libra

my n Pluto 09°05 Libra

(this would have been exact pretty much exactly a year prior to that).


HOWEVER we do have another synchronized one, and that was at that time at:

my sa Mars 09°13 Capricorn
his sa Mercury 08°20 Capricorn

my n Pluto 09°05 Capricorn


I guess that fits rather well.

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posted September 26, 2015 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"sa moon approaching his natal ASC"
This is intriguing!

I actually looked up the time when P and me sort of "reconnected", because I had decided that the very weird vague pattern of almost-connection had to end.
something so very Neptunian (in a most evasive way. lol and I know it was mainly my fault).

Anyway at that time

my sa Moon 24°43 Pisces
his n ASC 25°20 Pisceps


(naturally I did not really expect things getting even WEIRDER following that, even though in a much less evasive, ignorance-way. lol)

"our SA Pluto conj his nMoon and my nMC"
that is MAJOR. Of course you b oth have the natal solar arc indicating a major transformation period, big bells (most likely to hit somewhen during the time the solar arc Pluto on his Moon and your MC is within 30 minutes applying and separating).
Major outer planetary transits to personal planets and angles as well as the progressed Moon will be a good timer for when those events are taking place (though it is more about the process than any event itself I suppose)

and here I think it becomes so important that you DO have the synchronized solar arc, as you are both hit at the same time by the same train!

<"and his sa Juno 24.50 on his natal Vertex 25 Pisces, spot on this one!"
gives a pretty powerful picture about the major transformation of his life due to some form of commitment (or lack thereof)

"Questions: is composite SA worth some looking into? What about natal SA to composite?"
I definitely would!

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posted September 26, 2015 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the interpr, Ceri
OK, check this out, sa Pluto is 16.27, his Moon 16.29, my MC 16.44, so that's about...*checking watch* now??

Interestingly, our Pluto at 5 Libra, Eclipse happening there.

Oh, yes, I think Moon is generally a great timer. One year too soon? Could this be possible, astrologically speaking, to miss a train, I wonder? Sometimes I think, no matter what we do, there's perfect timing with our destinies.

NOTE: btw, Pluto rules my MC/his Moon, nice symbolism

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posted September 26, 2015 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"
OK, check this out, sa Pluto is 16.27, his Moon 16.29, my MC 16.44, so that's about...*checking watch* now?? "
LOL Yes.

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Interestingly, our Pluto at 5 Libra, Eclipse happening there. "
Major probably. it hits my IC-MC-axis.

and our composite Aphrodite and composite Eros/Psyche-mp. nothng major though.

oh and sa composite Vertex is there as well. (on 4.00 Libra)

"Could this be possible, astrologically speaking, to miss a train, I wonder? "
No, I don´t think so.
either the calculation is wrong or it was not about the Venus-Mars, but more abut the Mercury-Mars at that time.


You remember that concert one year ago, in june, when he seemed so "unbalanced" somehow and while i noticed he was being so weird on stage, and ultra-nervous and just off-kilter basically, I did not realize AT ALL that it could have anything to do with me, not until he was blurting out I was driving him crazy. lol

Followed a series of weird moments, including that very intense one, that bolted even me and shocked me deeply, the way he was looking at me, while singing the lines: "The vision who was not quite real."

I cannot put into words how CLEAR that moment felt, and how clear it was that he was deliberately directing it at me, and how that was as close to a confession that there had been *something* weird between us, than I would ever get.


That night?
our composite had

sa Neptune 22°52 Capricorn
n Moon 22°52 Capricorn.


No I don`t think astrological timing is EVER off.

This was such a clear picture to portray the "vision who was not quite real" as well as the "crazy" and the fact that he repeatedly messed up the lyrics of his songs, unintentionally, forgetting to sing some parts of songs wholly, because he was just sitting on a chair on stage looking at me, and me probably having a gazillion questionmarks in my expression while looking back at him. LOL


but yeah, Moon-Neptune. Gosh, I am so glad it moved away from that! Neptune just does not relaly help with clarity. lol


Maybe he was a bit more affected than usually (or than he could keep bottled up like usually) because of:

sa c-Pluto conjunct n Uranus 0°30a
sa c-Uranus conjunct n Neptune 0°24 a
sa c-Mercury conjunct n Venus 1°02 a
(yeah highlighting the next year)
sa c-Moon conjunct n SN 0°49a
sa c-Moon conjunct nPriapus

and also hard to NOT notice

sa composite Pluto 22°54 Scorpio

n c-LUST 22°03 Scorpio
n c-VALENTINE 23°34 Scorpio

n c-JUNO 22°19 Taurus

n c-Saturn 21°50 Leo

(it was already separating from c-Saturn clearly, and in fact the square had had only an orb of 5 minutes 2 years before, when I heard him first talk about his future mother-in-law. and in fact, when he had gotten into that relationship officially the month before, the square between our solar arc composite pluto and composite Saturn in 7th house was just one minute of arc applying.

I never stop marvelling at the exactness of timing! lol

and yes, it was just so fitting.
Funny enough, while it made any "dreamworld" collapse for me, in a weird way it also made it possible to connect to each other in the way we apparently did. Not at first of course, but after the modification of behaviour and expectation, things changed a lot. And I don`t think this would have happened if i had not been shocked like that! lol
So in a way, as painful it was at that time, it was NECESSARY to implement the changes that had to be implemented.
Intriguing, isn`t it? )


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posted September 26, 2015 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our synchronized solar arc aspects are these:


his NN trine my Sun 0°21

his Sun quinkunx my Vertex 0°20

his Saturn sextile my Vertex 0°05

his Venus conjunct my Antivertex 0°41

his Mars trine my Venus 0°06
his Mars square my Mars 0°50
his Mars square my ASC 1°00

his Mercury trine my IC 0°43
his Mercury conjunct my Mars 0°52

his Jupiter square my Mars 0°05

his Ceres quinkunx my Uranus 0°35

his Pluto trine my Moon 0°48
his Pluto square my Saturn 0°39
his Pluto quinkunx my Ceres 0°39


It`s interesting that among those are exact those interaspects I was identifying more strongly with than their synastric orb would make me think (including the Venus-Mars, Moon-Pluto, Saturn-Pluto, Antivertex-Venus, Mars-Mars, Mars-Mercury and of course Mars-Jupiter)

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posted September 26, 2015 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked up the solar arc aspects (in relation to synastry) for the night of that concert, I mentioned above.

His perspective
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(1)
his sa Neptune conjunct n Venus 0°20a

lol What could i say to this?

Well there was no strong resonance to my chart in terms of exactly aspecting it, other than that synastrically my n Neptune is semisquare his n Venus exactly, so in some way his solar arc Neptune/Venus was a reflection of the underlying synastric semisquare we have.
Plus my n Neptune was of course semisquare his sa Neptune then, too, on top of his n Venus.

Aaand his saNeptune= nVenus was/is conjunct my natal Moon/Venus-mp, however that could be interpreted.

While I do not have any planets on about 25-26 cardinal, I find it interesting that my TERPSICHORE is there, exact on his n Venus (and thus is sa Neptune at that time) along with my n LINK (and his n LINK as well).


all of it on 25 Cap
A Nature Sprit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall

(2)
his sa Venus conjunct n SN 0°19a

Interesting that his sa Neptune was conjunct his n Venus, while his sa Venus had moved to conjunct his n SN.

in this instance however there was resonance to my chart, esp. solar arc chart

my sa Vertex conjunct his n NN 0°19s
my n Uranus trine his sa Venus 0°18a
my n Uranus trine his n SN 0°01
my n Uranus conjunct his sa Saturn 0°29s
my n Uranus square his sa Sun 0°42 s


LOL What did I do to him?
Nah, seriously.


the vertex-NN I find interesting, along with the Uranus-Saturn-one.

though it was not acute back then, there was a foreshadowing of an aspect to follow, which possibly might be more relevant for the present time frame.

his sa DESC moving into conjunction with my n Uranus. (this was exact down to 2 minutes at the time of the meeting last month funnily enough).

Well the relevant degrees are

1 Virgo (his n NN, my sa Vx)
A Large White Cross Dominates The Landscape

1 Scorpio (my n Uranus, his sa Saturn, followed by his sa DESC)
A Delicate Bottle Of Perfume Lies Broken, Releasing Its Fragrance

(3)
his sa Uranus conjunct n Moon 0°06a
his sa Uranus conjunct n MC 0°28 s
his sa Uranus square n Vertex 0°14 s

my sa MOon square his sa Uranus wide 1°13
my sa Moon square his n MC 0°45 a
my sa MOon conjunct his n Antivertex 0°59 a

well he was undergoing major changes, that is clear (I suppose the Uranus to MC-Moon-Vertex might have referred to the birth of his son, at least it was precise on the day his birth).

As for me, or rather my sa Moon, while it might have cast some sort of foreshadow, it might not have been too strong.


well my sa Moon on his n Antivertex was precise on 31st july 2015.

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posted September 26, 2015 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my perspective
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(1)
sa Venus conjunct n MOon 0°46 a
(exact on march 2015)

his sa Mars trine my sa Venus 0°07
his sa Mars trine my n Moon 0°53 a

that trine of his sa Mars to my n Moon was exact in may 15.


(2)
my sa SN conjunct n Vertex 1°06a
my sa Jupiter square n Vertex 0°03a

of course the Node-Vertex one was not acute back then, it was exact on 22nd august 15 - *sighs*
the date of the meeting last month again. lol


his n Pluto opposite my sa Jupiter 0°02 s
his n Pluto square my sa Node 1°01a
his n Pluto square my n Vertex


well his n Pluto= my sa Node, was not acute back then, but you wanna have three guesses WHEN it would reach exactness?


No not on the meeting itself, but on the very precise day of when he TOLD me to come to that meeting, followed by the concert the next day, when, I suppose he started to understand why I had been acting so weirdly vague for the last years.
It was really a sight to behold, seeing the realization suddenly breaking through in his expression. lol

(3)

my sa URanus square n Jupiter 0°22s

his n Mars square my sa Uranus 0°29s

this was on the separating way last year already, but yeah, he WAS a surprise. lol


(4)
my sa DESC conjunct n Saturn 0°17 s

his sa Mars square my sa DESC
his sa Mars square my n Saturn 0°47 a


hmm, yeah, Is uppose I was a bit of a wet blanket for a long time.

anyway that Mars-Saturn-square was exact
in march 2015, lol right during the time when my sa Venus was conjunct n Moon.
Anyway from that point on his sa Mars was separating from the square to my n Saturn.
Interestingly that happend in the tertiary progressions as well, his tp Mars squaring my n Saturn, and from a certain point on (in the case of the tertiaries this happened somewhen during july, the Mars hitting n Saturn exact and then starting to separate, of course all of this HAD to take place while Tr Uranus is still applying to another plaguing square of an exact square to my n Saturn. ).


now that was an interesting excercise.


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posted September 27, 2015 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw I found this article

"A Dynamic Synastry Study
I have recently been studying dynamic synastry contacts between long-term partners. I’ve looked at a small collection of couples, around the time of their initial romantic involvement. The charting constraints are fairly tight: 1-degree orbs and limited sets of aspects and planets. I’ve used just one type of planetary contact: major aspects between each partner’s solar arc positions and the other’s natal positions.

I selected solar arcs because this method is easiest to demonstrate when it comes to calculating statistical measures, such as the expected frequency of a specific type of aspect. I am not suggesting that this is the best method for doing a synastry analysis, and in fact I plan to present other methods as well, to illustrate the use of objective measures to compare different astrological methods.

So having studied several cases, looking at aspects from each partner’s solar arc planets to the other’s natal planets, I find that the Sun, Venus, and Jupiter are very often present in these aspect contacts around the time of their initial romantic involvement – so often that I have come to expect these contacts in this kind of synastry scenario. But this kind of initial analysis can’t help but overlook important distinctions between the circumstances of individual cases. Consider, for instance, a couple such as Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward, where the first romantic impulse is delayed or denied, due to the fact that one of them is already married. A Venus-Saturn contact would be a natural indication of this situation.

In fact this Venus-Saturn contact was present in this case; this was just one of their solar arc synastry contacts around the time they met. I’m only looking at solar arc aspects to the partner’s natal positions, and in fact a few are within half a degree. Paul’s SA (Solar Arc) Saturn was squaring Joanne’s natal Venus at the time; also his SA Jupiter was trining her natal Jupiter. Meanwhile her SA Venus sextiled his natal Sun. He was married at the time they met, when both were performing in the same stage production.

The next step is to look for any similar contacts between their natal charts. Here we find that his Saturn is trining her Venus within a degree, and so the square from his SA Saturn to her natal Venus starts to look more fruitful. In this case it appears that the contacts between Sun, Venus, and Jupiter aren’t enough to describe their situation. So we can include this distinction by adding this one Saturn contact to our model. But then we might find that leaving Mars out of our model will miss those couples who are first bound by their violent passions. One such couple, who ended up as long-term friends, were Henry Miller and Anais Nin.

To take these distinctions into account, the next logical step would be to group all of the couples into well-defined categories, based on the circumstances of their meeting and becoming a couple. However, to continue refining this kind of distinction will eventually lead to a logical endpoint at which each couple defines their own category, according to their circumstances.

At the same time, each refinement introduces more synastry contacts, so that ultimately, the model leaves nothing out. It becomes essentially the same model that an astrologer uses for a synastry analysis; given any pair of charts, it includes all the particulars of the synastry contacts between charts.

Where does this leave us? For one thing, I have yet to introduce any statistical measures at all. I’ve been describing some kind of model without saying anything about what kind of model it is – other than that a planet can be added to it or omitted from it. I’m just showing how the concept of a model need not be confined to a statistical meaning. In fact, the content of this model — namely, the chart configurations — is no different from that of a statistical model. From this perspective, an informal astrological study, such as this one of synastry contacts over time, may not be so very different from a statistical study of the same subject matter – if one can accept that a statistical study may in fact be different from what is usually meant by the term. That will have to wait for another post."

https://matrixpierce.wordpress.com/2009/01/28/a-dynamic-synastry-study/

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I really appreciate your research here Ceridwen.

I have some personal data which corroborates your well formed theory that solar arc synastry is significant. I'm only looking at my current relationship so far but I'm going to go back in time and look at past examples too...

Notably, in terms of synchronization, we have a 5 year age difference and my Jupiter is 5 degrees ahead of his Venus, so we have a solar arc Jupiter-Venus conjunction. My Jupiter is retrograde natally and approaching the exact conjunction from that angle also. It all makes sense as a keynote of our relationship. I think I could never find any fault too serious with him!

His solar arc moon is at 2 degrees Taurus conjunct my descendant right now and opposite his natal Saturn. I am doing the math in my head having just finally cracked open my copy of solar arcs and read the first chapters, so I finally get it--wanting to check when that was exact when I get home.

More coming forthwith. Thanks for your reflections and info! Is fascinating.

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posted February 09, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, I almost forgot about that, but yes, it`s pretty interesting I think.

Also there again the MOon at beginning of taurus being mentioned, it haunts me. lol


Nevertheless, I was checking my solar arc synchronized synastry with Lancelot, but there is not that much there
though some intersting ones


° his SN conjuncts my Jupiter 0°00
(funny enough in the normal synastry it is my Juno exact on his SN)

° his Juno conjuncts my IC 0°05

° his Juno trines my Mars 0°07

° his Mars square my Sun 0°07

° his Saturn sextile my Uranus 0°25

° his Venus square my ASC 0°26

° his Mars square my Mercury 0°45

And oh wow right now his sa Uranus has JUST past my n Sun-Mercury.


his sa Uranus conjunct my n Mercury 1°00 s
his sa Uranus conjunct my n Sun 0°06 s


his sa Venus conjunct my n Chiron 0°40 a

his sa Mercury opposite my n Uranus 0°26 s

his sa Juno conjunct my n nameasteroid 0°00 (and square my n Moon 0°09a)

his sa Jupiter square my n Mars 0°00
- love that one


his sa Jupiter trine my n Venus 0°57 a


his sa Lilith (mean) squre my n Sun 0°13 a
(I am ALWAYS Lilith )

and for my directions


my sa Pluto conjunct his n Uranus 0°48 s

my sa Uranus square his n Venus 0°15 a

my sa Uranus square his n Moon probably

my sa Mars square his n Pluto 0°44 a

my sa Mars trine his n NN 0°13 a

my sa ASC square his n Sun 0°05a


my sa Venus trine his n Pluto 0°13 s

my sa Moon trine his n Jupiter 0°19 a


Erm, why are there so many? Did not expect THAT

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Aw Juno = Name asteroid 0'00 so sweet!

And, yes, that is a fair amount of aspects! And all synchronized? Wow!! Edit: oh i see some are SA-natal... still seems like a lot, indeed!

I like Jupiter-Mars too. My progressed Jupiter at 28 Taurus is conjunct his progressed Mars (which is conjunct his natal Venus... and Chiron..) right now... it's good stuff!

Edit: maybe you were being sarcastic re: the Jupiter-Mars square? right over my head... i think Jupiter-Mars squares can be kinda awesome though

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posted February 09, 2016 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your directions to his natals seem very potent indeed. Pluto-Uranus, Uranus-Venus.. exciting! Transformative. Seems difficult too but with enough sweetness and good feeling to carry you through...

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posted March 26, 2016 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
List of synchronized solar arc synastry aspects between D and I:

Him on the left

Mars trine Moon 0'37
Venus sextile Mars 0'34
Venus conjunct Jupiter 0'13
Mars trine Neptune 0'33

Saturn trine Chiron 0'22
Chiron quincunx Saturn 0'21

Eros conjunct Mars 0'30

Juno conjunct Ceres 0'24

Mercury opposition Mercury 0'31

Sun triseptile Sun 0'08

Ascendant trine Venus 0'33
Venus quincunx Ascendant 0'07

Venus quadrinovile Pluto 0'44

North Node square Mars 0'17
NNode trine Vesta 0'40
NNode sextile Juno 0'12
Nnode trine Ascendant 0'10

Mercury sextile Nnode 0'19
Sun semisquare Nnode 0'41
Vesta semisquare NNODE
Venus binovile North Node

Moon triseptile Vesta 0'51
Venus biquintile Moon 0'03
Saturn triseptile Jupiter 0'22


Ascendant quadrinovile Moon 0'00

^^This sent me into a strange 9th harmonic solar arc biwheel rabbit hole which revealed some pretty cool stuff and a lot of tight conjunctions... for what it's worth

Some of the stuff that turns up on the 9th harmonic of the solar arc synastry biwheel (a stretch maybe but somehow I don't think it is toooo far a stretch because, well):

Him on the left again

Sun conjunct Vertex 2'
Venus conjunct Jupiter 2'

Ascendant conjunct Moon (exact of course--and this on an all important degree across my draconic/progressed/natal/9th harmonic charts: 22 Scorpio, where my natal Sun is and progressed Venus/Asc, draconic Ascendant and 9th harmonic Vertex.. so at this time the 9th harmonic of his solar arc Ascendant is resonating there, which makes perfect sense to me energetically).

North Node conjunct Ascendant 1'30
Mercury conjunct Mars 1'
South Node conjunct Juno 1'50
Venus conjunct Imum Coeli 1'10

Juno conjunct Ceres 4 degrees
Vesta conjunct Ceres 4 degrees (my Ceres at the midpoint)
Venus conjunct North Node 9 degrees wide
Saturn conjunct Chiron 3 degrees
Mars conjunct Neptune 5 degrees
South Node conjunct Sun 4 degrees

I could go on and on

It is interesting stuff, solar arc synastry/synchronization

He presently has his

SA Chiron conjunct his natal North Node
SA Amor conjunct natal Moon/my Mars

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posted March 26, 2016 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Solar Arc Ceres is conjunct my natal Ceres this year, 0'14

His SA MC conjunct my natal North Node, but it's too wide I think, 1'30

His SA JUNO will be opposite my natal Venus in 2 years approximately

His SA Moon is on my Natal Descendant, 0'15

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posted March 26, 2016 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me on the left:

SA Mercury conjunct his natal Uranus, 0'07
... yup

SA JUPITER square his n.MOON 0'12

SA Mars opposite his n.Pluto 0'53
SA Saturn square n.Pluto 0'32 (whoa....)

SA Saturn trine n.Venus 0'01

SA Ascendant trine n.Moon 0'32

SA Chiron square n.Mars 0'07

SA Venus sesquisquare n.Moon 0'05

SA Pluto conjunct n.Jupiter 0'02 (!!!)

SA Astraea conjunct MC 0'10

SA Juno opposite n.Moon 0'55

SA Chiron square n.Vertex 0'07

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posted March 26, 2016 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awwe.. my SA Utopia is conjunct his natal Utopia which is conjunct my natal North Node

My SA Siva is conjunct my natal Sun
and
his SA Siva is conjunct his natal Juno

My SA Osiris is conjunct my natal ascendant

My SA Isis is opposite his natal Isis, 0'37

(Natally my Isis is opposite his Osiris, 3 degrees)

His SA Isis was just conjunct his n.Chiron and will soon conjunct his n.Venus

so there's Isis-Osiris action going on, which is felt..

My SA Venus is conjunct his natal West Point and in two years will be conjunct my natal East Point

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posted March 27, 2016 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestingly there`s nothing there in the sa synastry between Mr Sag and me. Even his sa DESC conjunct my nUranus is falling away.

all there really is left is this:

his sa NN conjunct my n Pluto 0°44a (9 months)
his sa VX sextile my n Venus 0.41a (8-9 mths)
his sa Mercury opp. my n Saturn 0.37a (7 mths)
his sa Jupiter trine my nMoon 0.00
his sa Jupiter square my n Saturn 0.09 (2 months ago)


not much really,

well not sure what that means or if that is significant at all, but

my conv. sa MC square his n Uranus 0.12s
my conv. sa Venus conj. his n Uranus 0.57a
my conv sa Avx conj. his n Mercury 0.19a

(his conf sa ASC conj. my nMoon 1.40a)


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posted March 27, 2016 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
However if we are talking about the 9th harmonic or rather the novile-family

to make it easier to visualize I picked the 9th harmonic chart; please be aware that any conjunction occuring in a 4°30 orb in there really is a 0°30 orb in the radical/ natal solar arc synastry (and of course emphasizing the novile family: conjunction - novile - binovile - trine - quadranovile).

his solar arc - my natal
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my solar arc - his natal
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well 9 degree in this comparision here represent one year of time.
So 0°45= 1 month

So as you can see in the second chart my sa MC is on his Sun (which means they are in a 9th harmonic aspect currently - for those who want to know exactly, it`s a novile with 2 minutes orb, separating).

The orb in the 9th harmonic chart here is about 21 minutes, which means this aspect has been exact about 2 weeks ago

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posted March 27, 2016 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Cochrane stresses the importance of the 9th harmonic aspects, and especially in terms of compatibility treats them as absolute major aspects.

But to make sure I am not getting deluded here, I decided to have a look at my paretn`s 9th harmonic solar arc synastry (or conjunctions in the 9th harmonic chart) at the time they got married. IF the 9th harmonic is about marriage, then it should figure strongly!
Also IF it is about compatibility, something good needs to come up, for my parents have been married happily for over 40 years after all!

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posted March 27, 2016 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interested to hear what you find!

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