posted September 28, 2015 03:54 PM            

One of the banes of twin flame research is the potential to misidentify; to get a 'false positive' in our conclusions. In short, to fail to detect the false twin.

Just as there has been both progress made as well as setbacks in this particular branch research (as there is in all things) I'll attempt to continue to compile now for false twins as a potential signature, just as I've contributed to the research for twin flame astrology and identification.

Now, a major word of caution when it comes to employing astrology to LOCATE or IDENTIFY twin flames. I DO NOT believe this should be used as a first -- or even third -- rung method for identification.

ONLY WHEN ALL OTHER DOMAINS OF TWIN FLAME EVALUATION ARE PRESENT SHOULD THIS BE ATTEMPTED.

This means the psychic experiences, a great personal and lifestyle change in the instance of both, not only one -- the oft-touted 'fast-track to the spiritual evolution' reported by many twins -- significant dreams, 'past-life recalls', and, of course, deep soul-recognition. I'm going to go ahead and add this this should be MUTUAL. There should be an overwhelming 'theme' in the relationship between the two individuals, which leads them to feeling as if they have a greater destiny, purpose, and mission together. Often -- but not always -- will this involve art, philanthropy, and spiritual ventures.

However, SHOULD the above prove true, do NOT take the mere presence of any of the following to be an automatic dismissal. Sometimes, we are deeply tested in order to prove our willingness to not only fight for the love that we have, but that we are indeed strong and capable enough to shoulder the tremendous responsibility that comes with being a twin flame.

Without further ado, this list will (hopefully) grow over time. I appreciate your attention and cooperation to this matter, in this area of fascinating and albeit complicated research.

In ultimate service to Love,

posted September 28, 2015 04:18 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
Haven't we already done this (like several times?) I kind of feel like we're beating a dead horse here.

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Identified actual signature elements of false twins? I don't think so. Have we? Maybe we should compile the threads, if we have. I know we've engaged in a lot of twin flame research, but specifically false twin? Or, misidentifying a karmic soulmate for a twin flame?

posted September 28, 2015 04:54 PM            

'19-20 degrees Scorpio is likely to be a "Trap" Indication from Archons, according to some of my psychic friends. My research strongly agrees with their intuition. Thus 19-20 degrees Scorpio is a ripe candidate for "False Twin" Signature.'

- iQ, 28 September 2015.

While this is in its absolute infancy, it is a fascinating direction which might fuel future research.

If this degree does figure prominently in false twin synastries and composites, what would be the reason for it doing so -- the logic behind it?

Let's study the degree more in-depth.

* It's conjunct fixed star Unukalhai located in Alpha Serpens at 20º Scorpio. (Note: we may also consider the North Scale, which is at 19º, for interpretation and association.)
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Unukalhai.html

'According to Ptolemy, Serpens is like Saturn and Mars. It is said to give wisdom, craft, deceit, malice, a feeble will, immorality, accidents, violence, and danger of poison.'

While in ancient times, SATURN and MARS were considered deeply malefic influences, in the modern world, we're able to analyse more thoroughly to uncover the greater truth -- especially the natal positions of both.

'In the Neck of the Serpent (Serpens), Unukalhai shows its properties as a Martian force combined with Saturn and is often really dangerous and destructive.'

Well, it doesn't sound good, that's for sure. So, greater research may need to be done in regards to the North Scale, and the 19º degree.

* The Sabian for 20º Scorpio (19º01-20º00) is A WOMAN DRAWING ASIDE TWO DARK CURTAINS THAT CLOSED THE ENTRANCE TO A SACRED PATHWAY'

Well, let's consider the potential benefit of a false twin. Many are our first foray into discovering the principle or concept of twin flames at all. Most often, we've either heard vaguely of the possibility and not given it much weight, or are completely uninitiated. Indeed, a false twin could 'draw back the curtains' on this complicated, life-changing concept.

Here's what Sabian guru Lynda Hill has to say about the degree:

'Look at your situation, what exactly is this ‘Sacred Pathway’ and where is it leading you? Is it a place that has been dreamt about for some time, but until now there hasn’t been a guide or a traveling companion to show the way or to share the journey? Whatever the case may be, it appears that help will soon be at hand in sorting out the mystery that stands before you. Be receptive, be loving and take the step into the unknown.'

She offers the following to break it down more simply:

'Keywords: Mysteries revealed, sometimes after a long wait. Feminine mysteries laid out before you. Woman’s reproductive organs, especially the vagina. The mysteries of the Goddesses. Getting past things that are cloaked or shielded from entry or view. Sexual mysteries. Open Sesame. Clairvoyant readings that reveal the ‘Path’. Invitations to the unknown. Drawing aside inhibitions. Following through on things.'

So, there's a sexual energy here, as well as a feminine one. Perhaps an invitation to the feminine divine?

She's also cautionary:

'The Caution: Being seduced into dark and sinister things or being led astray. Not being shown the true picture or the truth. Frigidity and closing off sexual responses. Being, or feeling, shut out. Dark rooms with little sign of life.'

Hmm. Okay, that ties into the greater fear of being 'led astray' by the 'seduction' of a false twin, and 'not being shown the complete picture'. Well, that's indeed interesting. The 'closing off of sexual responses' is also interesting, considering the importance of the Hieros Gamos.

Let's look at the other possible Sabian: 21 SCORPIO: 'OBEYING THEIR CONSCIENCE, A SOLDIER RESISTS ORDERS'

Again, Lynda offers:

'This is a degree of not wanting to comply with convention – not wanting to go along with the main stream or continue doing something that no longer serves you. It can be a matter of observing where you don’t feel right about continuing some activity, job or relationship as it may compromise what it is that you truly want.

“Conscience” stops one from following a certain course of action, staying with a project or relationship when they’d rather leave, or, someone not prepared to compromise their values to do something that society says they must do. You may find yourself in situations where what you are expected to do is against your inner values, conscience or how you see your future unfolding. You may at times in your life have to make the difficult choice between allegiance to duty and your own inner truth.'

Wow! That's certainly illuminating! Following the wrong path? Going in a direction that will ultimately compromise inner truth?

Her key phrases are: 'doing what one’s conscience dictates. Longing for a return to a state of love and innocence. Love that restrains. Not following orders. Going AWOL.'

Her caution: 'cowardice or lack of courage to act. Not doing what is expected. ‘Going over the top’ in a wild and crazy way. Freezing and confining emotions. Tantrums.'

So, what do we think?

posted September 28, 2015 05:03 PM            

Other than that (it's just my subjective opinion on maleficium of course ) great post as usually, Auby, with lots of interesting info and a twist

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted September 28, 2015 05:12 PM            

Scorpio 20: A woman drawing two dark curtains aside

"A woman drawing two dark curtains aside" 20 Scorpio

This symbol is illuminated 1:11 PM EST, 11:11 MDT Nov. 11 (6:11 PM GMT, Nov. 11)

Theme: Revelation.

Inspiration: The curtains were draw with a dramatic flare, flooding illumination into and from a space somehow familiar, but forgotten.

Today: One of the most dynamic days in terms of psychic and extra-dimensional revelation, be alert for rather amazing, quickened developments… the kind that defy rational explanation… to manifest.

Ideas may seem to come to life like drawings that fly off the page.

Connections with deep roots of ancestry may suddenly arise into awareness.

Do not dismiss thoughts that come strangely to you like living winged creatures. They will be informing your choices and actions. A change of mind occurs like this: a rational pan, reasonable and sensible, is suddenly adjusted because an idea came alive in your head. The Sage suggests go with the 'live' idea.

posted September 28, 2015 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Blain Bovee has a different take on this....

Scorpio 20: A woman drawing two dark curtains aside

"A woman drawing two dark curtains aside" 20 Scorpio

This symbol is illuminated 1:11 PM EST, 11:11 MDT Nov. 11 (6:11 PM GMT, Nov. 11)

Theme: Revelation.

Inspiration: The curtains were draw with a dramatic flare, flooding illumination into and from a space somehow familiar, but forgotten.

Today: One of the most dynamic days in terms of psychic and extra-dimensional revelation, be alert for rather amazing, quickened developments… the kind that defy rational explanation… to manifest.

Ideas may seem to come to life like drawings that fly off the page.

Connections with deep roots of ancestry may suddenly arise into awareness.

Do not dismiss thoughts that come strangely to you like living winged creatures. They will be informing your choices and actions. A change of mind occurs like this: a rational pan, reasonable and sensible, is suddenly adjusted because an idea came alive in your head. The Sage suggests go with the 'live' idea.

The old plan is more likened unto curtains and blinders.

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The 11's are a coincidence, as he does that as a daily (or fairly daily) thing. Though, in the GRAND scheme, I've got to say ... yeah ... the presence of the 11 there is definitely a nod from the Universe.

posted September 28, 2015 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
The 11's are a coincidence, as he does that as a daily (or fairly daily) thing. Though, in the GRAND scheme, I've got to say ... yeah ... the presence of the 11 there is definitely a nod from the Universe.

I'm on the right track.

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I'd take it to mean the opposite!
You post things at 11:11 all the time and insinuate that means your post is being led by some higher purpose...but here because it doesn't agree with your theory, it's not?

Even the date of this is Nov 11, 2011 or 11/11/11

posted September 28, 2015 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Probably IQ is much more entitled to talk about false twins but I cringe every time I hear about malefic degrees or malefic fixed stars. Let's stick to Maleficent.

Other than that (it's just my subjective opinion on maleficium of course ) great post as usually, Auby, with lots of interesting info and a twist

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I know, right? I'm the same way, Lee. I don't like making anything 'accursed' or automatically 'bad'. But I've got to be thorough, which means mentioning ALL possibilities, alas.

And there's plenty of egg still presently on both of our faces, to be sure. But who knows, that in and of itself might be karmic. In any case, nobody likes being wrong, and in this area especially. I think we're both still pretty dedicated to unravelling WTF happened there, and prevent others from falling into the same 'trap'.

posted September 28, 2015 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
What made you pick 19-20 degrees Scorpio out of all the degrees in the zodiac? Is this degree prominent with your false twin?

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Oh! Sorry, tgem. I should probably start with this in the initial post, rather than add it in on a comment, shouldn't I? I just wasn't sure if he was cool with 'opening an investigation' into it yet, since it's so new. But then how will we ever know, if we don't?

posted September 28, 2015 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
I understand that but you didn't answer my question: I asked if these two degrees are significant with your false twin?

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I'm gettin' there. And, yes. In fact, on top of his latest research, when we were discussing how he made the final determination, he cited it specifically.

Also, in his natal, interestingly enough; his DESTINN:

posted September 28, 2015 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Valentines-
Mercury scorp@19.21 or scorp@20

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posted September 28, 2015 06:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
So, VALENTINE is 19º or 20º, too? These are in natal? Composite?

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That's Valentines discovery

posted September 28, 2015 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I would start with a lack of Saturn and Nodes aspects between charts but a strong Pluto. Pluto will mislead them to believe the connection is outwordly but its is just an obsession.

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Oh, there's a tonne of Saturnine energy. One of his most karmic stellia -- SATURN-KARMA-SNODE -- is conjunct my MOON. Further, my SATURN is sextile his MOON. So, there's a dual-aspect SATURN/MOON between us. And, lemme tell ya -- THAT is felt. Regardless, we feel stuck together. And it's not always a nice feeling, either.

Then his VENUS/MARS and EROS/PSYCHE are both on my SNODE, 0º. That's been confusing, to say the least.

As to the composite, the SATURN conjunct PLUTO in the 12H is what could be most indicative of deep negative karma, and a potentially destructive relationship. (And it was.)

posted September 28, 2015 06:26 PM            

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That's Valentines discovery

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Gotcha. Actually, the tSUN is much more likely to be in 19º Scorpio than 20º on 11 November. 18º, actually, depending upon where the discovery took place.

posted September 28, 2015 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
That's Valentines discovery

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Actually, according to Wikipedia, it was 27 October 1899. So, yes, tMERC is at 19º, but not the tSUN, no.

posted September 28, 2015 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I would start with a lack of Saturn and Nodes aspects between charts but a strong Pluto. Pluto will mislead them to believe the connection is outwordly but its is just an obsession.

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posted September 28, 2015 06:31 PM            

My TF's Merc is taurus@22

posted September 28, 2015 06:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
My NN is scorp@21.44, so I think actually scorp@22

My TF's Merc is taurus@22

I hope he's a false TF! Lol

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Really, Gabby?

posted September 28, 2015 06:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Gotcha. Actually, the tSUN is much more likely to be in 19º Scorpio than 20º on 11 November. 18º, actually, depending upon where the discovery took place.

That's interesting, too. While we certainly can't just lay it all onto a single degree -- obviously -- it is interesting to see how prominent the degree might be in the case of confirmed false twins. The research could be useful.

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