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Topic: Davison & Things that make you go hmmmm
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starxd
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posted October 09, 2015 11:50 PM
  
Hello...
I'm still learning, but I really wanted to ask some people who know what they are talking about. What is up with these Davison charts?
I’ve done a few to practice and most of them don’t resemble the couples’s relationships. The composite looks more accurate to me. I mean synastry and composites have been easy to reconcile with each other. Take my parents. Married for 50 years and you’d never know why when you look at them. Look at their synastry, destiny looks like where attraction originated. WEAK personal planet aspects. Except Moon square Mars and it shows. Look at their composite? Boom! Bananas. Bananas good. 50 years later? That explains that. But Davison is just like… huh?
I've done synastry, composite & Davison charts for myself & a new intriguing person. I don't even know if one should bother with composites or especially Davisons when you don't know what you are yet... But the whole experience continued to leave me confused....
Strong soul mate synastry. But too much fate stuff? The composite is strong. And there are less fate object aspects. But Pluto and Karma conjunct each other in the 12th where our NN lies also. Both charts revolve around relationship houses.
But then, the Davison chart just looks crazy. It's like everything shifts. The synastry is strong, but the only personal planets in the relationship houses are Mars and the Moon in 4H. Juno is in 10H. The vast majority of personal planets, love asteroids and fate objects are in 12H and 6H. (Sun, Mercury & Venus in 12H - Pluto, Vertex & NN in 6H). The axis changes the whole tone, no? Also, all of a sudden, 6 fire Grand Trines and a Kite appear. The Grand Trines occur between the Sun & Mercury in 12H with Saturn in 5H, the Moon and Tyche in 4H and Neptune, Pallas & Vesta in 8H. The Kite is formed by Mercury, Neptune and the Moon trine each other; Pluto sextile the Moon & Neptune; Pluto opposed Mercury.
I can't tell if we’d be a really deep, psychic romantic connection. Or if it would be better if one of us worked for the other. Or if it's a doomed, disastrous heartbreak. Or if we’d try to kill each other.
How do you make heads or tails of this? Anyone know? I appreciate it loads.
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hypatia238
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posted October 09, 2015 11:55 PM
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hypatia238
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posted October 10, 2015 12:23 AM
I always check both Midpoint and Davison and that is indeed a good question, which one is more important I also get the sense is midpoint but I really don't know. I know davison is the midpoint between two birth dates so is the chart of an actual date and midpoint composite is the mid point between the planets of two people.I too am curious to know how people feel about the value of each and which one they use more and why. IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces
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posted October 10, 2015 01:00 AM
Feels like none of them is 100% accurate to ME so im always checking both.Only then,i got the answers.IP: Logged |
starxd
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posted October 10, 2015 02:52 AM
Thanks, Hypathia & Empty Spaces! I can't wait to learn more from you and others. So much is said about the "tangibility" of a Davison. But they just don't look right to me. What if the mid-point location is in the middle of the ocean? How realistic is that? And if you just relocate the reference point to where the couple is located, what makes the average of the birth dates any more real than a mathematical mid-point? IP: Logged |
Empty Spaces
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posted October 10, 2015 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by starxd:
Thanks, Hypathia & Empty Spaces! I can't wait to learn more from you and others. So much is said about the "tangibility" of a Davison. But they just don't look right to me. What if the mid-point location is in the middle of the ocean? How realistic is that? And if you just relocate the reference point to where the couple is located, what makes the average of the birth dates any more real than a mathematical mid-point?
No problem,Im learning too 
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Empty Spaces
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posted October 10, 2015 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by starxd:
Thanks, Hypathia & Empty Spaces! I can't wait to learn more from you and others. So much is said about the "tangibility" of a Davison. But they just don't look right to me. What if the mid-point location is in the middle of the ocean? How realistic is that? And if you just relocate the reference point to where the couple is located, what makes the average of the birth dates any more real than a mathematical mid-point?
No problem,Im learning too
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hypatia238
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posted October 10, 2015 02:59 PM
This should help: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017209.html IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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posted October 10, 2015 05:25 PM
We're all learning. Welcome to LL!  IP: Logged |
starxd
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posted October 10, 2015 09:26 PM
Hmmnnn... Interesting. Looks like it's always just going to be a preference of the astrologer - which I guess is why this is an art, as well as a science.I just like to try to make sense of things. I looked again at charts for my parents and me and a significant ex. Strangely, I could see how the Davison made sense with my "ex" composite & synastry. I could see how Davison represents how my parents relationship plays out, but the composite explains why they are together and why they will always be together. Same with the Davison chart showing how everything played out with my ex, but the composite showed the foundation for the relationship. Like an all you can eat buffet after lunch - steamy yet empty. LOL. Maybe the composite is like the natal for a relationship and the Davison really is most valuable for predictive stuff for a relationship. The weird Davison I described though. I don't understand how Grand Trines and Kites manifest in a chart where there are so many 12-6 axis personal planets and fate objects. Does that mean terrible magnified or mitigating influences? Hi Aubyanne! Thanks for the welcome :-) IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted October 11, 2015 12:02 AM
"I suppose they could just be two layers/aspects of the relationship...""I feel that the Davison chart gives more insight to a midpoint composite chart." "I think the best use of the midpoint charts might just be to interpret the hard aspects, as argued here.." "In my experience, the composite shows your relationship- the dynamics, themes, etc. while the Davison shows what actually HAPPENS between you two- how things actually work out and go down in your relationship. Since Davison is calculated with physical birth place in mind, this seems to make sense to me. I think of the Davison as a very physical thing, if that makes sense." ^When Transit Valentine hit my composite Endymion-Selene-Psyche-Isis-Ishtar stellium with Mr.Ray I had an astral travel experience with him that felt out of this world to the point that even after waking up for about an hour later I felt I was still in the dream feeling the emotions from the dream etc..Interesting Davison Cupido is on that midpoint stellium I just mentioned. I would add that the midpoint stellium conjuncts my natal natural Priapus and his natal ISIS-ASMODEUS-Osiris and that Endymion-Selene are indicators of meeting in the dream world or other dimensions. When I got married Transit Sun was on our composite JUNO, when my husband and I started dating we had Saturn on our composite Venus but we both have Venus conjunct tightly. I have noticed that interesting things happen during EROS or PSYCHE returns in composite like beginnings or endings. I guess what I am saying is that midpoint and transits to it can tell you the story of a relationship. Perhaps the davison tells you why in essence you met and the main function of the UNION and you two coming together, it gets to the core of why you met. While midpoint tells you about the relationship, its dynamics and downfalls and how it feels like for the two of you day to day. Maybe they simply compliment each other and its important to pay attention to themes that repeat in both as that tells you what the main theme and purpose is of the relationship.
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starxd
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posted October 11, 2015 10:28 AM
Good way to think of it Hypathia. House placements seem to make a real difference. What do you think if a composite is 1-4-7-10 focused, but a Davison is 4-6-8-12 focused? I have that with this guy.The composite looks like a romantic relationship. But the 12-6 axis in Davison with a 5H Saturn looks like doom or a potential working relationship. (We're both creatives.) But then there's all those 4-8-12 fire Grand Trines & the Kite. IP: Logged |
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