posted October 12, 2015 09:03 AM            

I have a question I can't find an answer to on this particular aspect in synastry.

I share good mutual attraction to this one person right now and I noticed my DES sits on their ASC and needless to say their ASC sits on my DES

I think it's very interesting to note as well their ASC is conjunct their Moon in Scorpio and my Pluto is conjunct their Moon in my 7th.

My ASC is in Taurus and DES in Scorpio
-Out of these signs I only have 1 planet in them and that's Pluto in Scorpio which opposes my ASC.

Their ASC is in Scorpio and DES in Taurus.
-Out of both signs the planets they have are Moon in Scorpio and Mars in Taurus.

Does anyone have any insight on this one?

Thankyou!

posted October 12, 2015 09:42 AM            

So what in your eyes is your ideal partner you will find in their 1st house. And to avoid the problem of 'he is my type but I am not his', also do the same analysis for his 1st/7th houses.

1) Your Dsc sign = their Sun sign
2) Your Dsc sign = their Asc sign
3) Your Dsc ruler conjuncts his Sun in their natal chart
4) Your Dsc ruler is their 1st house planet
5) Whatever planet you have in your 7th house - you're looking for that planet in their 1st house.
6) Whatever planet you have in your 7th house - look for that planet conjuncting Sun in their natal chart
7) Whatever planet you have in your 7th house - this planet could be the ruler of their Sun sign or their Asc ruler

Following this logic if your Dsc is in Scorpio then what you're looking for is any of this:

1) Sun in Scorpio
2) Asc in Scorpio
3) Sun conjunct Pluto in their natal chart
4) Pluto in 1st house
5, 6 and 7 - just repeating the above because you have Pluto in your 7th house.

What is his star sign? His Scorpio Moon is in 12th or 1st house? Same for his Taurus Mars, is it in his 6th or 7th?

posted October 12, 2015 10:02 AM            

Some of those points do apply to our synastry so far...

I wanted further advice on this too..
I remember reading somewhere that if your personal planets don't fall into anothers personal houses that it may not be overly romantic BUT..if you can look for 7th house connotations

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For example, my Moon is in Capricorn, and sits in my partner's 2nd house in Cap. I read that you must look to the 7th house ruler and apply that ruler to the mandatory house it belongs to and see if anything sits in there. So would my Moon in his 2nd influence his Taurean 7th house?

I'll break it down further for instance my partner's 7th is in Taurus, and Taurus automatically rules the 2nd house in general...so regardless of his 2nd house cusp, his 7th house deals with things in a Taurean way ..hope this makes sense as I wish I could find that article again.

posted October 12, 2015 10:14 AM            

I disagree the ASC is what you offer to your partner. DSC, and ruler of it, shows what kind of partner you are and want, both what you offer and what you need. ASC is how you behave with everyone else that is not your partner in your circle of friends mostly (rather than the large public: MC image)

This reversed angle conjunction, although conj my Moon in the 7th, was probably the main problem in one of my ex relationships.
I have DSC in Cancer + Leo. He had DSC in Aqua. The way these two signs behave with partners can be very antagonistic. As a Cancer DSC, I need close, almost mothering interplay. Aqua DSC is the opposite of this. As a Leo DSC/Moon, I am not a worshiper, I need to be worshiped myself or a taking turns thing. As a Leo ASC/ Aqua DSC, he thought my purpose was to be in his shadow, worshiping him. His partnering habits were very Aquarian, not something a Leo DSC would like.

Another example in my entourage: he is Cap ASC, she is Cancer ASC. The conjunction creates strong attraction and is compelling and they've been married for many years. Although the antagonism between these 2 signs is not that strong when it comes to partnering, she behaves like a Cancer in the circle of friends, but as a partner, she is very Cap (for example, in this case, distant, dominant, workaholic, with high expectations and social ambitions for the partner). While what he is and needs is a Cancer partner.

I am not a fan of the reversed angle conjunction, the way I saw it play.

I prefer ASC conj and chart ruler/DSC ruler aspects ( or combinations: DSC rulers, ASC rulers in aspect) to the reversed conj.

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posted October 12, 2015 10:45 AM            

I think the difference here is there is no duality in the ASC/DES because it is just in Scorpio/Taurus.

The two are fixed signs so it's not so difficult as in cardinal signs.

What I will say is, there is alot of attraction from that alone I presume..Scorpio is sizzling hot!

But like I once read in another articule, just because you may have all the right aspects with someone doesn't mean you will know if the relationship will really work.

I had a great synastry chart with a friend and she raved about our pull to one another and I cut her out of my life after she did something I was not fancy to. We had alot of great aspects as friends but so what?

I just want to find out more about this as I look it up and can never really find anything based on it and how it works out within the whole axis

posted October 12, 2015 11:34 AM            

The same goes for:

posted October 12, 2015 11:35 AM            

As for Dsc, here I disagree even more. I mean, I tried to apply what LeeLoo said about it to myself. I am Aries Dsc and Aries is just not me in a relationship, not what I offer at all. And how can it be personal? If you remember something else 7th house stands for - it's enemies. So both partners and enemies. Not very internal is it? But on the other hand, Dsc is opposite our Asc so it's a mirror of ourselves. Then we must have some of it (sign) in us too but ultimately it still shows what we look for in a partner, not what offer them. Otherwise, they would get attracted to our Dsc sign. But no, they tend to go for Asc (what we put on the market so to speak) Put any personal planet on my Asc and I'm sold, I'm yours

posted October 12, 2015 11:49 AM            

I've never agreed with the lacking theory. I've practiced my DSC since my first one to one relationship at the nursery and it has always been Cancer/Leo.

posted October 12, 2015 11:51 AM            

It is certainly not enough to just take the sign into consideration. MOre important than what Aries on the DESC is about, I would consider what the ruler of DESC is doing in the chart overall (sometimes he might be the "odd one out" and in this case people tend to project it and find it only externally, as having seemingly nothing to do with oneself).

As for the other stuff I agree with CC.
ASC and ruler of 1st house is definitely a strong identity-placement,w hich includes also relationships, though is not limited to that.
(actually the 2nd house is much more related to what we express in committed relationships - and again not just the sign on its cusp, but the overall symbolism).

posted October 12, 2015 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

It's true that you need an alter to see how you are in a relationship, as opposed to being a Robinson Crusoe, but beyond this, there's no lacking about the DSC.

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posted October 12, 2015 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

(actually the 2nd house is much more related to what we express in committed relationships - and again not just the sign on its cusp, but the overall symbolism).

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posted October 12, 2015 11:56 AM            

I can't really tell how I am percvied for I think my DES shows more in public...
I get people telling me I am mysterious or dark and very guarded..which is a trait from both signs Taurus & Scorpio..

Hm, I guess I'm trying to ask if my ASC is in Taurus does that mean my partner's DES & Mars in Taurus affects my sense of self? like he provides what I need in a relationship? I guess I also brought into the picture the 'secondary' romantic houses since Taurus rules the 2nd and his 7th.

And I want to know what I'm doing to him in this axis synastry for I am confused on it.
If my DES is in Scorpio does that mean he seeks out how I am naturally in relationships by his ASC in Scorpio?

posted October 12, 2015 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
...and to pointing out just the angle conjunction cannot describe how successful it will be.

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posted October 12, 2015 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri

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posted October 12, 2015 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
no, not at all. Like no isolated aspect can.

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Yes I'm fully aware... I just want to know what this aspect is really about.

posted October 12, 2015 12:03 PM            

just keep it simple so you donīt get your brain in knots. While there are subtleties of course, really the big picture is what counts, and if the big picture is not there, it probably is not there - simply spoken, or too little of "it".

Very simply spoken, as CC put it, you want the other one embody your DESC in one way or the other, mutually.
And with MAJOR natal aspects and planets.

So it really is as simple as their luminaries, ASC, ASC-ruler or Mars (if they are male) being in your 7th house OR conjunct your 7th house ruler OR sharing at least the same sign of your 7th house ruler (though personally I think that will be not enough, if it is the only indicator, it will feel nice, but not compelling).

posted October 12, 2015 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
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wrong thread?, was that related to the white-flag-comment I did or what else?

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no, the way we thumbed up each other at the same time

posted October 12, 2015 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by midnightcatqueen:
Yes I'm fully aware... I just want to know what this aspect is really about.

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posted October 12, 2015 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
no, the way we thumbed up each other at the same time

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posted October 12, 2015 12:24 PM            

His birthtime is 1 to 1:30pm as he knows it around this range for sure. I tested out most of the minutes in between and it's not too big of a change on the aspects. I'll ask him again, but he doesn't believe in astrology </3 and will get suspicious of what loveydovey things I'm up to! He's such a Scorpio rising.