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Topic: ASC on DEC Synastry
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Orange
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From: Georgia
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posted October 12, 2015 12:31 PM
  
well, not really lacking, but the DSC is the furthest thing from us astrologically and in many ways represents our LEAST INTEGRATED qualities – the things that feel the most unnatural to us.. We still have the qualities within us, it's just that we reject them, being the exact opposite of us ( ASC). many times we reject people who repsresnt those qualities too. Enemies also fall in this category. Being both the ASC and the DSC at the same time makes me think of borderline personality disorder.Now, someone comes and represents your 7th house qualities. It's not you, it's him/her that represents it. Everyone brings something to the table. It gives you the " I am now complete" feeling. (nobody is complete alone except for sociopaths - they don't need nobody). so here he comes, 7th house sweetheart..."Meeting our opposite, yet wanting to fulfill our desires creates a bond that is not as easy to break as others. You fall madly in love with the person who embodies your 7th house cusp and it's all grand in the beginning....But then slowly, surely, this person will begin to annoy you. That's when you know the mirror of projection is reflecting back at your psyche."
From this moment on, you start either developing your 7th house qualities in yourself in order to fit in with your 7th house lover, or reject them all together.
Thru him/her, you start cultivating those qualities, which are non existent when you are alone. You shift from your ASC to your DSC. You fall in love, form an ardent relationship and people start commenting you look different, behave differently. Well, yes, you started acting on your 7th house. IP: Logged |
midnightcatqueen
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From: new york, new york, usa
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posted October 12, 2015 12:51 PM
Oooo Orange you made that sound so much easier than I thought it could.
I will say though, I have never rejected my 7th house qualities in a person. In fact, thats all I attract is Scorpio based people.
I feel at ease with it.I can't figure out how I posted a chart on here before so I guess no one can see the synastry chart. Ok so if the others are the embodiment of our 7th house what would that mean for the reversed axis? Because if someone activates my 7th with their 1st does that mean it is balanced out? As in, they are what I am in public and therefore can see myself reflected in a more understanding/sympathetic way as opposed to feeling they are the complete opposite? ------------------
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Aunt Anomalia
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From: Pandora's box
Registered: Mar 2015
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posted October 12, 2015 12:54 PM
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Being both the ASC and the DSC at the same time makes me think of borderline personality disorder.
Edit: lol, I thought it was Ceri.
Anyway, thanks for the compliment  ------------------
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alyssa27
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posted October 12, 2015 02:17 PM
i have this for the first time..i'm totally smitten with the guy  ..my asc in cancer,his asc in capricorn opposite each other by 3 degrees..plus his desc ruler moon conjuncts my asc from the 12th and my desc ruler saturn conjuncts his asc from the 12th too..and of course a tight opposition between our desc rulers moon-saturn 1 degree..he has a intercepted 7th house all leo sign in it..he is a leo sun and mercury and i am a leo sun and mercury too in his 7th plus my jupiter in his 7th too but in cancer..i also have a cancer venus but it's away from his desc/moon in his 6th house(his secondsry 8th)..my moon-asc ruler in his 8th and his saturn-asc ruler in my 8th too..
he is everything i'm not,he completes me,he is powerful in those areas i feel weak..i never felt this way before for anyone,i think i didn't have a choice but fall for him..like it was meant to fall in love with him  asc conjunct desc i think it's a special aspect IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 12, 2015 02:20 PM
My stepdaughter and I have the 0º overlay of ASC/DSC. Heh. She seems like a space alien to me at some times, when she's being uber Piscean, and yet, I see so much of myself in her, it's hard to believe I didn't give birth to her.But, God, men this placement? Ugh. Get a rope. No. Now, I did marry a Geminian with MARS in Pisces. He's slowly becoming a professional writer, has always been a functional alcoholic who gets high nightly, is extremely needy -- but can't quite accept his submissive orientation, so he has to backlash the whole thing with a stroke egocentric dominance, does have moments of being extremely soulful and compassionate (but typically when he's high), and is, otherwise, a hardcore atheist and nihilist. But a commitment's a commitment, and we've got karma to clear. As to that whole attracting Piscean types, I'd really rather not. So, put me in the 'reject' category, Orange. Can you tell I'm none too happy with him today?  Ahhh, marriage. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
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posted October 12, 2015 02:36 PM
My boyfriend and I have the ASC/IC link, with his ASC conjunct my IC. I definitely feel that.I guess I embody his 7H (Gemini -- it's like I can't escape it) -- because of my whopping 3H -- MOON, MERC, MARS -- yeah, yeah, it's packed. But in Scorpio. So, my boyfriend's SUN is 8H, and he's actually quite Plutonian for a Cancerian. That likely helps balance the mercurial energy (which can drive me bananas) by being tempered by the Scorpionic / Plutonian inclusion. Plus, my husband will just ruminate. He'll keep a tally of everything you've ever done, and launch it at you when you least expect it. Is that his Cancer VENUS? Sometimes I wonder. They've both got Cancer MERC, (but my boyfriend's is retrograde) but he's got VENUS in Leo instead. He's the total opposite. He may ruminate about things that directly affect him, but not emotions. In fact, few things affect him long enough for him to feel anything about them. So, my husband's the deep feeling brooder, and my boyfriend's the mostly polite but freewheeling optimist. I think I match some of my husband's 7H. Aquarius. I'm very Uranian. His first wife was also an Aquarian, so that jibes. Plus, his 7R is URANUS -- 0º conjunct my SUN. Gotta admit, THAT's pretty cool. Though, 'Uranus in Libra' says to me 'divorce lawyer' -- which is what his ex-wife is. But that might just be me. And sometimes, I wonder if my boyfriend doesn't actually fit my 7H rather well. Pisces? Noooo, thank God. But my 7R is NEPTUNE in Sagittarius, 4H, Leo dwad. He's a Cancerian with Sag rising, and JUP in Leo, with VENUS. ... well, damn. That's actually a very good match. Ahh, karma. I'm payin'. Ohhh, am I payin'. IP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia
Knowflake Posts: 1397
From: Pandora's box
Registered: Mar 2015
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posted October 12, 2015 02:50 PM
I'm not crazy about Pisces either but I think Mars could be one of the less problematic personal placements, at least for me. I'd be wary of the ASC, Moon and Venus there me most.------------------
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Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 12, 2015 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
I'm not crazy about Pisces either but I think Mars could be one of the less problematic personal placements, at least for me. I'd be wary of the ASC, Moon and Venus there me most.
Tell me that after you've been with one for several years, and married for five.  G'damn always needling me for sex. Then guilting me about it. Then playing the 'but I do everything for you!' card. Which, sure, he does -- with strings attached. The man doesn't really get the concept of unconditional anything. He's very 'you owe me' about, well, everything. Then it's all, 'oh, so I pushed you into the arms of another man.' Uhhh, you 'pushed' me into the arms of a man who never demands sex from me! Ever! Not once. Who NEVER expects it from me, and, if I wanted to, I could totally not ever have to do again. (Though, okay, that'd hurt on an emotional level -- I like the fact that he doesn't expect it from me. It's like he doesn't see the connexion! IP: Logged |
midnightcatqueen
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From: new york, new york, usa
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted October 12, 2015 02:58 PM
uhhh Scorpio/Taurus please! HAHAHI know nothing of Pisces and I prefer it that way. heh. ------------------
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Aunt Anomalia
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From: Pandora's box
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posted October 12, 2015 03:00 PM
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G'damn always needling me for sex. Then guilting me about it. Then playing the 'but I do everything for you!' card. Which, sure, he does -- with strings attached. The man doesn't really get the concept of unconditional anything. He's very 'you owe me' about, well, everything.
That doesn't sound like Pisces to me. More like Cancer... So you recommend to run away from Pisces anything? ------------------
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midnightcatqueen
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From: new york, new york, usa
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted October 12, 2015 03:25 PM
Yes. run run run. My chart doesn't allow for Pisces individuals to come near me without crying about my Cappy moon and the way it hurts. hahBut can we digress?
I'd also like to understand what this does to the other points of the axis like IC/MC...for that would be a big deal as well. ------------------
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Aubyanne
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From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 12, 2015 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
That doesn't sound like Pisces to me. More like Cancer...So you recommend to run away from Pisces anything?
Really? Because my boyfriend is Cancerian, and he's the total opposite. Or, that's how sexual Cancerian men are? Oh, God. Then I'm really happy he's an ace! IP: Logged |
EmGem
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posted October 13, 2015 04:57 AM
Does having the ruler of the DSC conjunct someone's asc differ from having DSC conjunct asc.
We actually have both these aspects but I'm wondering if it's makes a different that his 7th ruler conjuncts my asc???Another thing, his chart ruler is Venus, so does that mean that me putting planets in his 2nd house works for more attraction? IP: Logged |
midnightcatqueen
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From: new york, new york, usa
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted October 13, 2015 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Does having the ruler of the DSC conjunct someone's asc differ from having DSC conjunct asc.
We actually have both these aspects but I'm wondering if it's makes a different that his 7th ruler conjuncts my asc???Another thing, his chart ruler is Venus, so does that mean that me putting planets in his 2nd house works for more attraction?
I think someone said yes it has the same affect in regards to the DES/ASC aspect. As for the chart ruler in venus.... I was just reading up on unromantic houses being romantic under the secondary 5th, 7th, and 8th houses. But that's a whole different conversation http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/222673.html ------------------
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EmGem
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posted October 14, 2015 06:28 AM
Thanks midnight love that thread! IP: Logged |
polkadotstars
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From: Washington, DC
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posted October 14, 2015 01:17 PM
I have a descendant/ascendant conjunction (I'm a Leo ascendant, and he is an Aquarius ascendant) with my boyfriend. Granted my 7th and 8th are both Aquarius, so I really like that energy! I find his energy very fitting. It's just comfortable for me. It's like exactly what I have been looking for. I suppose he thinks that of me as well? Lol, not really sure though if he feels the same way
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midnightcatqueen
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From: new york, new york, usa
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posted October 17, 2015 12:30 AM
Yea the minute I met this person that I share this aspect with I knew he needed to be in my life. There was this pull that both caught us off guard. Its an amazing aspect to ponder I think...the 1st house and the 7th house side of someone to be vice versa to their axis is a hot topic to me. i wish i could find out more about it... ------------------
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charlie
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posted October 17, 2015 05:35 AM
Well, I have Virgo Asc, Mars to my husbands Pisces Venus, Asc. It's hard to describe really but when we met we just knew. And we also have this confusing aura between us that he is a male/female and I, female/male. That's the best description I can give. To add to that mixture I have quite a few asteroids in Pisces incl Valentine and he has Pluto in Virgo. IP: Logged | |
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