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Wild Horses
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posted November 02, 2015 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, I love the way you express yourself.

I think you've mentioned having a Uranus-Mercury square, and I've got Uranus square Mercury 1°. Your zany off-the-cuff words just make your posts sparkle. I love that Uranus-Mercury energy.

I can also pick up on your Gem Mars strongly. I've got a Gem Venus and Sun, and your posts just ooze energy and quick-witted quirky fun.

Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your comments.

Same goes for Ceri's comments. Always SOLID GOLD, but she already knows I'm a fan of hers.

On topic...

I have this in the Composite with my husband. Mercury-Sun conj. 1°. Mercury is also the Sun's ruler. Mercury is a busy, busy boy in our relationship. It's hands down the most heavily dominant planet in our synastry and composite.

I have a love-hate relationship with this energy. It does make for some awesome communication and an amazing mental and verbal connection, but unfortunately, it feels like the emotional connection suffers at the hands of it. The love is there, but the mental intimacy is more "in your face" than the emotional intimacy.

These quotes hit the nail on the head for me:

quote:
Originally posted by Selenite:
Sun/Mercury can get pretty trippy - so much talking that you spend a few hours together and suddenly you've got everything in the world figured out. Then when you're apart you ruminate on everything that was said until the next time you see each other and then you talk until you have everything figured out all over again. Would be great if you could be quiet long enough to establish any emotional intimacy. It's like, wait, I know you inside and out and yet we can't even hold eye contact with each other.. Very weird experience

quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I could see that. After all the identity is connected to how you communicate your thoughts, and if there is a real disagreement, it might feel like the whole "reason" or identity of the union itself is being negated or threatened.

It makes it feel like it's both the glue that holds our marriage together, but also it's biggest threat. Hard to put into words, but it's easy to feel.

Just like the above quotes mentioned, we can talk about anything and everything, but it always feels like it's Mercurial conversation, i.e. surface stuff, day-to-day things, and trivial matters. It's not a lack of love, but a lack of depth.

The deeper subjects and matters of the heart and soul are never broached. They may get alluded to or lightly brushed over, but they are skimmed at best. At times, it can feel like you're starving and all there is for your soul to eat are snacks and appetizers. There is a form of comfort there, though, because Mercury can cause you to be very, very involved in each other's daily lives, so you feel intertwined in that way.

Like most things, it's got it's good points and it's bad.

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nordicsoul
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posted November 02, 2015 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
unless the conjunction is aflicted, I dont see why arguments should be part of the picture. actually, it is a good aspect to have in composite as it makes conscious the purpose of the couple..

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angel4845
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posted November 02, 2015 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
You might be on to something. For some reason, I have sun conjunct mercury in composite with a lot people with whom I have very bad communication issues.

And since mercury is a rather androgynous and asexual planet, if mercury is the only conjunction to the sun, I think it also symbolizes a relationship where sex is not going to be very good or a platonic relationship that never moves to the sexual level or was never intended to be sexual.


i' m not quite sure if that compeltely resonates, i do respect your observation however i' m super attracted to this person and we have sun conjunct mercury in our composite but its 4-5 degrees wide and nothing else in the composite is aspecting is unless you wanna count SEMI-SEXTILES HERE? we do have them. the sun conjunct mercury in our composite is conjuncting and opposing our venus/mars opposition, including DW BML in synastry. the attraction is pretty intense, i' m finding myself obsessing a bit to be honest it sucks, but there are commincation problems i do have to say because my moon quincunx his sun and venus exact in synastry it sucks, maybe i should give it more time to develop the friendship more despite im heavenly attracted. but yes we do have commincation problems we end up constantly assuming, power games, power struggles and later apoligizing.

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Belage
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posted November 02, 2015 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
i' m not quite sure if that compeltely resonates, i do respect your observation however i' m super attracted to this person and we have sun conjunct mercury in our composite but its 4-5 degrees wide and nothing else in the composite is aspecting is unless you wanna count SEMI-SEXTILES HERE? we do have them. the sun conjunct mercury in our composite is conjuncting and opposing our venus/mars opposition, including DW BML in synastry. the attraction is pretty intense, i' m finding myself obsessing a bit to be honest it sucks, but there are commincation problems i do have to say because my moon quincunx his sun and venus exact in synastry it sucks, maybe i should give it more time to develop the friendship more despite im heavenly attracted. but yes we do have commincation problems we end up constantly assuming, power games, power struggles and later apoligizing.


Oh, I am not saying that attraction is not there. All I am saying is that I've noticed that the actual relationship itself doesn't seem to move past platonic stage, for whatever reason.

In your case, you said that there were other aspects to the sun made by Venus and such, so it may be different.

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Faith
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posted November 03, 2015 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
Faith, I love the way you express yourself.

Thank you so much, that means a lot to me!

I've loved your comments, too (!) and really appreciate your feedback here. I can relate to a lot of what you said, with respect to my own husband, but he and I have composite Mercury conjunct Neptune and the NN in Scorpio...another kind of Mercury "heaviness"...pressure to evolve towards deep and compassionate communication. With my husband's natal Mars and Chiron squaring (grand crossing, rather) the NN and its friends. Fun fun fun.

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Faith
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posted November 03, 2015 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, everyone, for your input.

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posted January 07, 2025 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ItsKikigirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I think I'm starting to see a pattern, where arguments feel extra prickly and "loaded."

As if one needs to reconcile problems within the context of a smothering sense of "but we [b]must end up agreeing, somehow!" The tighter the orb, the bigger the issue this seems to be.

Any thoughts?[/B]


Hello all! I really wanted to talk on this because I have a very strong Mercury conjunct Sun theme within multiple of my relationship charts (composite, synastry, etc) with this one individual. I have found it to be profoundly powerful and honestly the reason we’ve been able to overcome otherwise extremely difficult hurdles. We also have a Mercury square Mercury which I do see come up in the way we misunderstand each other. However that conjunction of Sun-Mercury has been a life saver. We have the ability to actually sit down, talk about the issues, take acknowledgement, and push aside ego which can at times be really difficult to do. I find it to be one of the most helpful things in our chart. What I will also say is that we are both very very mentally and intellectually stimulated so this fits within our specific desires of characteristics we’d like in a romantic interests. I have found that natal chart is super important aswell because the way we love and see relationships changes based on what we are individually receptive too. The other thing is where that person is in their life in terms of emotional maturity and growth. I think if we met earlier than we did I wouldn’t have been in a good enough place to be good for me or for us tbh. Potentially the same for him. But we have been talking for 3 years and we when we met we were from different countries. The long distance never stopped us from consistently talking and we still do!

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teasel
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posted January 08, 2025 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Petronilla:
I can't help you with the composite, exactly, but I've certainly found it to be true in my natal chart I have a tight Sun-Mercury conjunction and this cartoon pretty much describes my personality:

https://xkcd.com/386/

I derive little pleasure from "winning" arguments with cleverness. It's not a competition, it's a matter of what is true and what isn't. I feel like the other person MUST be made to understand. There's nothing I hate more than "well, let's just agree to disagree". NO. I WILL NEVER AGREE TO DISAGREE. Clarity is clarity, truth is truth, there's no middle ground. No matter how trivial the subject matter.

I can well imagine it would play out in a similar way in a composite... though obviously in a natal chart it probably has quite a bit to do with ego.

Perhaps in a composite chart it might indicate a fear within the relationship that anything short of absolute clarity and harmony (in communication) would threaten the very existence of that relationship?


Ohhhh, this is a really relevant bump for me, right now. I'm the same! For the most part, I have no interest in "winning" an argument. I don't like arguing, and I used to just not get involved in heated discussions. I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, and I also didn't want my own feelings to be hurt. I get upset if I think I've been hurtful to someone, but it eases, if they're deliberately hurtful to me. That will sting at first, but not forever.

I also feel the same way about the truth. I'm too tired to get into this thread again, but I might in a few days.

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teasel
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posted January 08, 2025 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also still have that "but we must reconcile somehow" thing with the person I mentioned when this thread was started.

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