posted November 03, 2015 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
I can tell you that before I had my first child, I was terrified of being an unfit mother. However, when I gave birth to my oldest child, it was as if the gates of heaven opened up and all was right in the world...lol. I knew the moment I gave birth to her that I needed more children. I had my second daughter two years later. I did have a miscarriage in between my 2nd and 3rd, which caused much sadness for me. I was a little over 3 months along with that child. My son was born 2 and a half years after my 2nd daughter.

I always regretted not having children sooner. They bring so much joy into my life. It's as if I can be a child myself once again, if that makes any sense.

Btw...i have BML conjunct my Scorpio moon in the 5th. Not sure how that alters things...

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I'm sorry to hear of your miscarriage

Maybe BML there speaks to your initial worry that you might be an unfit mother but since discovering the primal power and fierce/simple joy of childbirth/having children she became a strong motivator, a source of empowerment, and a strong instinctual counterpart to your motherly fun-loving lunar nature...

posted November 03, 2015 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
What a gorgeous--and intense! --progressed composite! You say the composite NN is on the IC? Very interesting.

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Yes, the midpoint comp NNode is at 4 degrees Sagittarius conjunct the IC. It trines our sun/jupiter/mercury stellium.

What causes you to remark that our progressed comp is "intense"? Is it because Pluto is connected to the mystic rectangle with benefic planets? I noticed right away the conjunction of mars/saturn/moon on the MC as well (in cancer).

posted November 03, 2015 05:03 PM            

And that rectangle is so beautiful! It's clear that though you are feeling the strong urge to comply with the urge to create a life, feeling the pressure and reluctance very strongly in either direction.. and... you are certainly very much in love.. a strong and passionate time of assessing this issue, certainly... fueled and sustained by the underlying love and affection generated by the union.

One thing I see is that it may be difficult to reconcile the strong feeling of harmony with the reality of"time ticking" which is presiding over the MC at this time. Things have reached a zenith and now is the time--everything feels rather alive and intense, and now is the time to make a decision (Mercury square Saturn/Moon/Mars), and the decision feels like a matter of life and death (Pluto square Saturn/Moon/Mars!)... you know all this though.

posted November 03, 2015 06:36 PM            

At the same time, he is the most honorable person I know...certainly worthy of his wish to procreate. He told me he hasn't found anyone he would want to have children with...until now. And he would be an excellent father without a doubt. I would regret not trying for a child with him I believe. There's just so many reasons to go either way with this decision.

posted November 03, 2015 08:40 PM            

With that in mind, I think you should look at aspects involving Uranus/11th/Aquarius for technological medical involvement, Vesta and Mercury/6th house/Virgo for the healthcare aspects, and any aspects that would show a successful fertility clinic procedure.

I see some things in your Progressed Composite that look promising.

-Vesta in Aquarius
-Vesta in 5th house
-5th house cusp in Aquarius
-5th ruler Uranus in 1st trine the Vesta in 5th house/Aquarius
-Jupiter in 6th house
-Vesta transiting 6th nearing Jupiter and nearing a trine to the NN
-transit Neptune (6th ruler) passing through 5th house
-Part of Fortune in 11th

There are some other things, too, but those stood out to me. They look good in the event you do decide to have a child together and have to use a fertility clinic.

posted November 03, 2015 09:14 PM            

I have my Scorpio moon exactly conjunct the composite Uranus...which is in the 2nd house (composite). I noticed this early on and wondered about it. Thinking it would cause me to desire breaking free from this relationship at some point. It has not. Each disagreement I have with this very sensitive man has allowed us to grow closer, and more intimate. Its unprecedented for me, and for him! It could be our maturity levels, it could be our synastry, etc. I just cannot deny this awesome man, and to be so priveledged, by the example of how I raise my own children, his acceptance of how I do so, and his desire to add to this so important segment of my life...tells me so much about his character. So admirable.

posted November 03, 2015 10:37 PM            

I'm going to say, however, that I'm not sure that having a child for someone else is the right reason. Do you want to have another child?

Let's take the extreme, never-happen-in-a-million years example of your giving birth, and the unimaginable happening, leaving you to raise it solo. Would you be grateful for that which now remains of him in the child that is comprised of you both? Or would you resent now being stuck with raising another child alone, after having sworn to yourself that you had retired from that phase of motherhood?

posted November 04, 2015 10:26 AM            

When I decided to stop having children, I felt a part of me die inside. Having children, for me, is experiencing a form of love that cannot be found in any other relationship. I struggled with the thought of not being able to give birth to another, but I accepted it and focused on how blessed I was to have 3 healthy children.

When my boyfriend brought this up, I felt all those desires bubble back to the surface, and I started to hope and dream about the idea once again. It's not fair! Lol!

To me, when you love someone, you give all that you can to them. I'm not talking about always sacrificing to accommodate my partner, but sometimes, yes. He has done the same for me.

There is much more that we need to discuss with one another, including what would happen if...
We've touched on it already and agreed to continue the discussion going forward.

There are so many what ifs to this...well, with any couple who tries for a child. I can tell you that no matter what, if I were to have a child with him, that child would receive the same amount of love and attention as my other children. I've always voiced to my children how I love them all equally, and I really do!

And as far as him picking up and leaving, I would still love his child, because that's how my love works with children. I know this for sure. And I am strong enough to raise that child solo if it came to that. However, I could not do it financially. We've already talked about this part of it and agreed that he would be the sole financial provider...he happily agreed and is very capable of doing so.

So I am able to raise and child and provide love, nurturing, encouragement...
And he is able to provide a solid bankroll for diapers, daycare, college...lol!

Perhaps we need to formalize it, via a filed contract, which he would not be opposed to doing. There's lots we still need to discuss and outline, but I think we can work together to make this happen.

In the meantime, I will be going through my head about all those "what ifs" and share those with him. I know he will still accept me regardless.

posted March 19, 2018 09:19 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What about Moon opposite Mars and Moon trine Mars? I have these aspects with someone in synastry. And once he mentioned something about getting me pregnant. But it was like a joking way.

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posted March 19, 2018 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I can vouch for it. But surely some men decide the opposite even if they had it with someone. Some just don't want to leave DNA behind. Plus, we are referring to at least 18-21 years of support. It definitely enters my mind. So for me, a Moon opposite Mars would be a Pisces Moon around 18 in my 8th close to my Pisces Moon.

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posted March 19, 2018 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
That is what I was referring to. My Mars opposite a potential lady's Moon.

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posted March 19, 2018 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What about Moon trine Mars?

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posted March 20, 2018 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
There are a lot of things that can explain baby making in synastry and composite. Too many things really, as it all depends on the couple's beliefs. Why are they babymaking? Why do they want to have babies? What is the reason behind it? Was it purposeful or accidental? How many babies? Will the baby actually be born or not? Too many things to consider for this and so there are many possible combinations that can be present to show babymaking for a couple. Not every couple who has kids is going to show the typical 5th house stuff because not every person has kids for 5th house reasons. And couples with prominent 5th house are not always going to have babies. You would really need to look at transits.

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posted March 20, 2018 12:56 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
The drive to impregnate her might not be as intense.

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