posted November 24, 2015 11:56 AM            

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Yep. Not extrapolating. Not even slightly.

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posted November 24, 2015 12:58 PM            

(His Dr to my natal)
His Dr Sun- 14.59 Aries (my sun 13.58 Aries)
His Dr Mer-13.42 Aries
His Dr Asc- 18.11 Aries (wide, I know )
His Dr Venus 25 Aries (my Chiron 23.21 Aries)
Hi Dr Nep- 29.44 Pisc (my mer 29.43 Pisc)

(My Dr to his natal)
My Dr Sun- 11.46 Leo (his moon- 8.21 Aqua (wide))
My Dr Mars- 22.08 Gem (his Sun- 25.11 Sag and Merc- 23.54 Sag)
My Dr Pluto 5.32 Aqua (his Moon- 8.21 Aqua)
And, I thought I would mention that my Dr Venus (16.26 Vir) is almost Antiscion his Dr Sun (14.59 Aries). Also, we both have our Dr Moons in Taurus (over 7 degrees apart)

Faith- I have a lot of my placements connected to yours. That's probably why I enjoy your posts' so much.

posted November 24, 2015 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

the south node chart (or as Auby calls it KETU chart) is actually found in the oppositions the tropical has to the Draco placements.

it`s whats alreaedy there familiar and the basis we start from, but while it stays part of the connection, it is the Draco-conjunctions we are growing towards. This becomes e3specially interesting if there are oppositions from tropical overlaying Draco or vice versa.

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Ohh yeah! Fascinating when you take both into account that is true.
Neptune conjuncts my Keta mercury and I have been having dreams since I was a kid and have good intuition.

However I have tropic Scrodinger conjunct Akash on my Draco mercury calling me to step it up a notch and all that semisextiles my hypno stellium. I need to evolve in my astral travel skills, I have such a long way to go....

posted November 24, 2015 02:03 PM              

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Originally posted by Someday Soon:
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(His Dr to my natal)
His Dr Sun- 14.59 Aries (my sun 13.58 Aries)

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And again a Sun-Sun-overlay. Interesting. I did not imagine this to be THAT frequent when starting the trhead.
Oh and btw my Dr Sun-Mercury is at 14 and 15 Aries.

posted November 24, 2015 02:05 PM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

I heard you come into your northnode around 40, is that so?

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No, I donīt think you can pin that on a fixed date. It`s an ongoing process.

posted November 24, 2015 02:46 PM            

READ IT HERE:

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
How old are you?
The NN won't come into play until mid-life (early 40s onward).
It's natural when you're in your, say, 20s to have no view of NN issues as you are already busy becoming an expert in SN issues/talents/lessons. Once you excel in those, you can move on toward your NN later in life.

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posted November 24, 2015 03:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Auby,

D Sun- D Sun might mean you evolve into the same direction? Maybe? What do you think?

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Indeed, we are doing that. As you know, I'm also touched by the NNODE-tinged expression of the Draco chart, and appreciate the synastry as a means of showing a sort of 'endgame'.

Which, for the both of us, is early Gemini. Unlike my 'skeleton twin' (long story) -- with his dMOON in Libra, and dSUN in Scorpio -- as I've been the one helping him to evolve in these areas. Not that I've not been helping Jack's SUN with my dMOON! I definitely have. But it's very much a two-way street with us. There's a constant give-and-take -- often unconsciously. We both do tend to 'evolve' in the same 'direction'. Even simple things, such as picking up a hobby, subject of study, or area of interest the other has done so independently recently, or been considering. My math's a bit shaky in terms of my quantum research, and he's been taking calculus courses, because he 'felt the need to beef up mathematically'. We both laughed at how oddly complementary that is -- especially because his reasons were to be able to have a more legitimate understanding of quantum physics.

So we really do contribute rather constantly to each other's experiences -- almost by mere existing. Oh, you're doing that, too? Great! Here's what I've gotten out of it; I'll lend you the book / show you the video / share the file -- etc.

Since we're information factories and knowledge hounds, that could be Geminian -- in a way. We're both voracious learners, and constantly sharing what we've learnt -- with those who actually care. It doesn't have to be just me, either. He was independently hungering to get back into comics, and it was my husband's project that brought him back into contact with a real opportunity. So it's sometimes others through me that also contribute to this complementariness and evolution experience -- and vice versa, though, not as often.

In short, we easily can share our contacts -- our network -- and realise how useful they are to each other.

Okay, now that is undoubtedly Geminian.

I wonder what's up with the early degrees. Neither of us have anything in early Gemini -- it's all latter or mid-latter.

I often wonder about overlaying the Draco points into the tropical natal -- and synastry. In his case, my dSUN is in his 6H, but conjunct his DSC. That jibes. Then his dSUN is in my 9H -- but 6š from my MC. Ehhhhhhhh. That gives each a different take -- a more unique spin. Both houses of a kind of service -- one's relating to philosophy, higher learning and spirituality, ethics, principles, and another, general service, the day-to-day, health, and work. But then it's not JUST in the 6H -- but conjunct the DSC from the 6H. So, okay, maybe the sort of work we do in our relationship, which contributes to what we're inclined to give back to others; perhaps the way we create our art.

And, obviously, Gemini tends to be related to writing. It's early Gemini, so we're not really looking at dwad differences, either. The Sabians are going to be different, though, being 2š apart.

Not that I'm needing to find differences; I'm intrigued by distinction here, however. Though that may not be the point. Here, it may actually be about not just similarity, but sameness.

posted November 24, 2015 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
[QUOTE]Yep. Not extrapolating. Not even slightly.

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Alright, I stand humbled. Hatta is conjunct my Sun and Redqueen, now how lol is that I should probably read these books within the next few years. My aspects seem to be trying to lure me in.

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You really should. It's brilliant stuff. Pretty straightforward, too. You've just got to remember it's a Victorian era Oxford don desperately trying to not lose his job while still expressing his existential crisis (even though he's also technically clergy -- so that he could stay at Christ Church -- he was losing his faith) and fighting a deep-seated anarchist political streak. The Hatter is a very legitimate expression of his unconscious: blunt, honest, beguiling, and deeply nonconformist.

A friend of mine even has a theory that the protagonist was never Alice, but the Hatter. Which is interesting. And, if you consider the weird fact that he DOES end up in two separate dimensions -- Alice merely happens to be travelling to both -- it's obvious there's some weird connexion there. And the whole romantic overlays have been heating up since 2010, coinciding with the Syfy miniseries (which was amazing) and the latest Disney effort (which ... was okay for what it was; not a bit canon). So, I had to laugh at how 'Halice' has become a thing in recent years -- and the whole thing is trending. Yes!

Anyhow.

HATTA is all new to me; I've not really had a chance to explore it, but, thus far, it feels very transdimensional. If we pull directly from the story, that jibes. We don't know enough about the Hatter to attribute full awareness -- Dodgson just leaves it uncertain. And with Hatta, he almost plays this kind of Memento game, with Haigha as his Teddy. He seems oddly reliant (even dependent) upon Haigha -- as he's 'just got out of prison' -- of which Haigha is fully aware, and kind of awful about. He's always reminding him. Also, Hatta's memory doesn't seem so hot. It's never said why he's in prison, though, and clearly no coincidence that it's the Hatter who murdered 'someone' (Time). Dodgson leaves it intentionally open and unanswered.

REDQUEEN is interesting, too. There's definitely an evolutionary theme with that one, but also a time game, as he's exploring more about the nature of time. I've got REDQUEEN rising myself. And, as is commonly mistaken, The Red Queen and the Queen of Hearts are NOT the same character -- entirely different. They're both imperious figures that are clearly in charge, but RQ's not a tyrant. Instead, Dodgson is very apparently exploring both the concept of evolution (such a no-no for a clergyman) and the nature of time. Do check it out.

HATTA, currently, seems to me to be very transdimensional, but lacking awareness. Further, there seems to be clear relationship to -- I'm just speculating here -- the points with which it forms aspects, but not here. Hence, it's being transdimensional in nature. Almost as if, as the ultimate observer, we could see the relationship between so many things -- but, of course, we lack the awareness.

I theorise this because it would seem the Hatter has fled Wonderland -- either because he was sentenced to death, or some other reason -- and is now in Looking-Glass Land -- which is another dimension entirely -- and is now Hatta. With a different background, and history. HOWEVER. He still ends up in prison; the cause-effect relationship has NOT been broken.

X happening in A still leads to Y consequences in B.

Follow?

Other-you had a cup of coffee in another eigenstate, and you-here needs to pee. To be really, really oversimplifying here. I'm not saying it ACTUALLY works like that, but, just as it's been extremely important for Jack to understand the concept of multidimensionality (SCHRODINGER 0š00 conjunct his NNODE) with HATTA conjunct your SUN, this might be important in terms of understanding your own identity.

Especially with REDQUEEN. You've got a 'nature-of-time' marker, and a multidimensionality marker (though not an established multidimensional relationship -- yet) going on in a big way with your SUN.

posted November 24, 2015 04:23 PM            

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Well, I donīt believe it.

I think they are simultaneously in play.

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posted November 24, 2015 05:25 PM            

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(though not an established multidimensional relationship -- yet)

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Maybe it's no coincidence that I have an idea for short story series involving multidimensionality, higher planes of existence and the concept of time in a way which I'm really hoping to manifest someday (can't start yet, long story). But then, I have Sun conjunct Neptune and other "out there" stuff. I can make a thread for my Carrollian aspects in the asteroid section if you're interested.

posted November 24, 2015 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
What are you implying?

Maybe it's no coincidence that I have an idea for short story series involving multidimensionality, higher planes of existence and the concept of time in a way which I'm really hoping to manifest someday (can't start yet, long story). But then, I have Sun conjunct Neptune and other "out there" stuff. I can make a thread for my Carrollian aspects in the asteroid section if you're interested.

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Yeah, lemme see your natal. What I was 'implying' is that there's no established relationship between these points yet -- astrologically.

As to the short story you're working on? Awesome!

posted November 25, 2015 10:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Faith,

I love all you wrote!

Which Elvis movie did you watch?

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GI Blues

Very stupid movie. Best part is when Elvis seduces a puppet, singing "Wooden Heart":

Full performance

On topic:

Elvis' draco Jupiter is conjunct his natal sun.

I wonder if that contributed to his luck in life?

Also his draco Mars conjunct his natal ASC...sex appeal?

posted November 25, 2015 10:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Someday Soon:
My husband and I have a few dr-tropical connections (mainly from his side). But, I think I have more with Faith, than I do him. lol

(His Dr to my natal)
His Dr Sun- 14.59 Aries (my sun 13.58 Aries)
His Dr Mer-13.42 Aries

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Hi!

My husband's draconic Mercury is almost exactly conjunct my sun as well (0.15 orb, I think.)

I think Doux Reve mentioned before, that she has seen a lot of tropical sun to draconic Mercury conjunctions in the synastry of friends. I'm wondering if it works for romance, too? Apparently it does...

One of my closest friends has her dr sun conjunct my tropical Mercury. She loves astrology, and when I told her about this she laughed and said, "Is that why I'm always wondering what YOU will say about my news?"

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Originally posted by Someday Soon:
My Dr Pluto 5.32 Aqua (his Moon- 8.21 Aqua)

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Ahh and my Mercury is at 5 Aqua...

Hmm do you feel that Pluto-moon energy?

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Originally posted by Someday Soon:
And, I thought I would mention that my Dr Venus (16.26 Vir) is almost Antiscion his Dr Sun (14.59 Aries). Also, we both have our Dr Moons in Taurus (over 7 degrees apart)

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All so interesting. I haven't even bothered with solstice points yet, but I'm sure I would find things...I'm just...bad at math. LOL

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Originally posted by Someday Soon:
Faith- I have a lot of my placements connected to yours. That's probably why I enjoy your posts' so much.

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Thank you and likewise even though you are almost never here. I remember you from the "Who does she like better" thread, though.

We do have nice synastry! And we're both Rabbits.

posted December 02, 2015 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

And again a Sun-Sun-overlay. Interesting. I did not imagine this to be THAT frequent when starting the trhead.
Oh and btw my Dr Sun-Mercury is at 14 and 15 Aries.

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You are one day younger than my husband, Ceri. And, I think I've mentioned before how much I've learned from your posts, but it doesn't hurt to tell you again. Thank you!

posted December 02, 2015 08:25 PM            

Natal venus conjunct his draco mercury (0)
Natal moon conjunct his draconic sun (3)
Should we count the ASC?
Natal ASC conjunct his draco sun.(3)

His natal sun conjunct my natal mercury (1)

WHAT that means?

posted December 02, 2015 08:27 PM            

Hi!

My husband's draconic Mercury is almost exactly conjunct my sun as well (0.15 orb, I think.)

I think Doux Reve mentioned before, that she has seen a lot of tropical sun to draconic Mercury conjunctions in the synastry of friends. I'm wondering if it works for romance, too? Apparently it does...

****I believe it does give a friendly feeling. In our natals we have mercury square mercury and I really feel it, but we are very well matched intellectually so maybe that's where this aspect comes into play.****

One of my closest friends has her dr sun conjunct my tropical Mercury. She loves astrology, and when I told her about this she laughed and said, "Is that why I'm always wondering what YOU will say about my news?"

****How great that must be to have an IRL friend that likes astrology! I'm jealous! lol***

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Originally posted by Someday Soon:
My Dr Pluto 5.32 Aqua (his Moon- 8.21 Aqua)
Ahh and my Mercury is at 5 Aqua...

Hmm do you feel that Pluto-moon energy?

****We have moon-pluto in our tropical synastry, too. So it would be hard for me to differentiate between the two. :/****

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Originally posted by Someday Soon:
And, I thought I would mention that my Dr Venus (16.26 Vir) is almost Antiscion his Dr Sun (14.59 Aries). Also, we both have our Dr Moons in Taurus (over 7 degrees apart)
All so interesting. I haven't even bothered with solstice points yet, but I'm sure I would find things...I'm just...bad at math. LOL

****Well, I would love to trade you my ability for math for your way with words. LOL I seriously have a very hard time articulating what I'm thinking, and feeling, into words. (Pisces Mercury)****

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Originally posted by Someday Soon:
Faith- I have a lot of my placements connected to yours. That's probably why I enjoy your posts' so much.

Thank you and likewise even though you are almost never here. I remember you from the "Who does she like better" thread, though.

**** My hubby doesn't particularly like my interest in astrology, so I don't post when he's around....since we work together he's around more often than not. lol***

We do have nice synastry! And we're both Rabbits.

I love my fellow Rabbits.