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Topic: Where do I go? (because of you) - Draco synastry
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Ceridwen unregistered
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posted November 22, 2015 04:03 PM
The Draconics is a nodal chart, a NORTH nodal chart as I am sure everyone knows by now. So everytime someone puts their tropical planet in close conjunction (3 degrees, better even 2 degrees) to a Draco planet of ours, they pull something out of us, that has been laying dormant-maybe. The North Nodal version of that particular planet or asteroid, and hence nudging us into developing that trait even more. slightly pushing us, or guiding us gently, where this part of ours is meant to go, maybe stimulating the awareness of that part for the first time, at least in that evolutionary way. They do that just by being themselves and acting like they do (their tropical chart). I just found it always interesting that I am drawn to certain Aries birthdays like a moth to flame, usually around 7th -12th april.
Incidentally this gives a tropical Sun of 16-21 Aries I think. which means they put THEIR tropical Sun onto MY Draco Sun on almost 16 Aries, which is very very loosely conjunct my tropical Chiron at 20 Aries. Their tropical Sun conjunct my Draco Sun results in that feeling of familiarity and soul-kinship inside of me, and a feeling of "that`s how I *Could* be, if...." my best friend puts her tropical Moon onto my DRaco Sun for example, and in certain ways she`s been setting an example for me, some sort of ideal almost, how I would like to be or could be. And it was also her who pretty much said: "But that is how you actually ARE, you are just not really aware of it, but I can see it clearly in you." And Faith, you are reading, right? your Jupiter right there as well, most definitely has that supportive encouraging vibe to it, almost like nudging my Sun and saying: "the core, the seed is already there, just let it grow into the plant it`s meant to be."
if people conjunct vital planets in our Draco chart, there is often a feeling of being understood on such a deep level, that we weren`t even aware of it ourselves before. Like in the reflection of the other person`s planet we BECOME OURSELVES. See, Faith? I started the topic after all. IP: Logged |
Delilah423 Knowflake Posts: 689 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 22, 2015 06:08 PM
My draco chart is only 1+ degree ahead of my tropical chart. I've never quite been able to figure out what that means, let alone apply it to synastry.EDIT: So it just hit me that when I say I rarely see conjunctions, I may not be accurate. I *am* a conjunction??? IP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 2665 From: Pandora's Box Tech Registered: Mar 2015
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posted November 22, 2015 06:26 PM
What about angles?------------------ Anomaling around since 1911. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 22, 2015 06:27 PM
My Aries Jupiter was looking for its shout-out the whole time (!) and breathed a sigh of relief at the end. ....So this is about Lancelot? quote: ..if people conjunct vital planets in our Draco chart, there is often a feeling of being understood on such a deep level, that we weren`t even aware of it ourselves before. Like in the reflection of the other person`s planet we BECOME OURSELVES.
I think the tropical person feels it, too.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7183 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 22, 2015 06:28 PM
Beautiful Ceri! I love how you explain it . Thanks for posting.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7183 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 22, 2015 06:32 PM
If draco is our Northnode chart do we have a Southnode chart too? or just an equivalent of it?. What would be the SOUTHNODE Chart? I guess the SN persona chart or the sidereal? IP: Logged |
Septembergirl Knowflake Posts: 445 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted November 22, 2015 06:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: My Aries Jupiter was looking for its shout-out the whole time (!) and breathed a sigh of relief at the end. ....So this is about Lancelot? I think the tropical person feels it, too.
I hope so!!! Thanks for your explanation, Ceri! IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1456 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 22, 2015 07:49 PM
My boyfriend's chart mirrors my draco chart: Sun in Taurus, Mercury in Taurus, Moon in Virgo, Cap Rising, Cap Mars.His draco chart mirrors mine but it's switched around: his Sun and Mercury in Aries ( conjunct my Moon), Moon in Leo (trine my moon, and my ASC is Leo), Mars in Sag (conjunct my Sun), and Sag rising. Our draco ICs (and my draco Venus) are conjunct in Pisces. And in the composite, the AC is right on my Sun, and the MC is right on his Moon.
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EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1896 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted November 22, 2015 08:34 PM
My Draco is almost exactly opposite my tropical. If you hit a lot of points in synastry when comparing tropical to Draco, meaning as you say you help one another grow yet you have mostly SN contacts in tropical synastry, how does that work? Is there still growth? IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1896 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted November 22, 2015 08:35 PM
And something I've been thinking about. How does the Draco compare to the 9th harmonic which is supposed to be the soul's purpose? I don't understand the difference..IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 22, 2015 08:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Septembergirl: I hope so!!! Thanks for your explanation, Ceri!
I wanted to say, as the tropical planet person, Ceri's draco sun on my Jupiter energizes it...infuses it with a sense of what it's all about. I think it goes beyond her being a Sag and teaching me Sag stuff. Feels like sparkly mental fuel being pumped directly into the hub of my worldview. And pardon me if that sounds grandiose but if my 9H Aries Jupiter cannot sound grandiose sometimes??...pfft...no one can!
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 22, 2015 09:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: What about angles?
I have lots of stories but would like to hear Ceri's take on it first. IP: Logged |
Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 794 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 22, 2015 09:58 PM
That's very interesting Ceri, the part about those particular birthdates. I have a similar feeling about Aries Suns born in that time span. I attributed it to my Libra stellium in my natal. Throughout my life I've had several older women, some old enough to be my grandmother, that all have birthdays around that time. It's like a mentor degree for me, because I always learn a lot from these women.As far as Draco/natal synastry goes, I've been curious about a particular double whammy that I have with someone. My Draco Venus is conjunct his natal Chiron, and his Draco Venus conjunct my natal Chiron, both very tight orbs. Chiron is pretty active in our natals and synastry too, so it makes me wonder about these aspects. I'm not sure if it's good or bad, healing or painful. I should also mention that my in my natal chart I have Sun opposite Chiron, and he has Moon opposite Chiron. Anyone have any ideas or experiences with this natal to Draconic conjunction? Since it's such a close double whammy it seems very significant.
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Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 794 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 22, 2015 10:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I wanted to say, as the planet person, Ceri's draco sun on my Jupiter energizes it...infuses it with a sense of what it's all about.I think it goes beyond her being a Sag and teaching me Sag stuff. Feels like sparkly mental fuel being pumped directly into the hub of my worldview. And pardon me if that sounds grandiose but if my 9H Aries Jupiter cannot sound grandiose sometimes??...pfft...no one can!
Not grandiose at all! I think that I speak for most members here in saying that Ceri seems to expand most of our views. I have a 9th house Sun, Mercury, and Uranus(with Aqua rising), plus Mars and Neptune in Sagittarius. I love Ceri's thoughtful insights on all sorts of subjects, and I consider her LL's voice of wisdom. I'm sure I'm not alone in this. Sorry to put you on the spot Ceri, but I had to say that. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 22, 2015 10:51 PM
^^ Ceri rules.Venus-Chiron DW, wow! Can you elaborate on the feeling of it? Chiron is like my raw nerve. Soothe it, even just be recognizing it (if that makes sense?) and you feel like you are near my core, someone I can really trust. So I would imagine Venus-Chiron could be like a tender but fragile-seeming kind of trust? Seeing the other person in yourself? IP: Logged |
Bluejay Knowflake Posts: 794 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 23, 2015 12:51 AM
There is definitely a vulnerable feeling between us. We were both hurt in past relationships, and as a result are both very cautious about letting our guards down. I don't know if anything will ever come of this connection, but he's already made me feel like it's not the end of the world. I felt pretty hopeless after having to start over without my ex, since we'd been together for so long. That said, I'm terrified that he could cut me to my core if he hurt me.In our natal synastry my Chiron trines his Venus, sextiles his Mars, and squares his Sun. His Chiron forms a yod with my Moon/Pluto conjunction and Neptune. Chiron is very active in all of the charts. I guess the potential for healing is there, but so is the potential for being deeply hurt. I felt that from the start.
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Ceridwen unregistered
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posted November 23, 2015 05:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Delilah423:
EDIT: So it just hit me that when I say I rarely see conjunctions, I may not be accurate. I *am* a conjunction???
At least in the Draco-sense, yes. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted November 23, 2015 05:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: What about angles?
Of course! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted November 23, 2015 05:27 AM
Faith,"...So this is about Lancelot? " Yes and no. The Draco chart has been swimming vaguely in the back of my mind, and him announcing the title of his solo concert "WHERE DO I GO?" verbalized it with such acuteness. It all just fell into place because of the resonance there. So he was inspiring the post, yes, but it is not strictly (only) about him, so I guess he`s been on my mind. I mean he fits my old Aries-Sun-pattern, doesnīt he? " I think the tropical person feels it, too. " yes, I think so, too. The Draco person just might feel that added "nodal flavour" IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2015 05:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: If draco is our Northnode chart do we have a Southnode chart too? or just an equivalent of it?. What would be the SOUTHNODE Chart? I guess the SN persona chart or the sidereal?
the south node chart (or as Auby calls it KETU chart) is actually found in the oppositions the tropical has to the Draco placements.
it`s whats alreaedy there familiar and the basis we start from, but while it stays part of the connection, it is the Draco-conjunctions we are growing towards. This becomes e3specially interesting if there are oppositions from tropical overlaying Draco or vice versa.
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posted November 23, 2015 05:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: My Draco is almost exactly opposite my tropical. If you hit a lot of points in synastry when comparing tropical to Draco, meaning as you say you help one another grow yet you have mostly SN contacts in tropical synastry, how does that work? Is there still growth?
Yes. also the fact your Draco is opposite your tropical mostly, means that actually your South nodal chart is emphasized, so I guess you will be quite concerned or faced with South Node aspects this time around. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted November 23, 2015 05:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: And something I've been thinking about. How does the Draco compare to the 9th harmonic which is supposed to be the soul's purpose? I don't understand the difference..
I donīt believe the 9th harmonic is about the soulīs purpose, though it is an important chart in relationships. It highlights the 9th harmonic aspects, trine and novile (binovile, quadranovile), and whatever these mean, it signifies. I am talking from a western astrology perspective not Vedic here of course. IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2015 05:35 AM
Faith and Bluejay, thank you. I am completely moved about that. IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2015 05:39 AM
Bluejay and Faith, I do think Chiron is very much about that "raw nerve" (brilliantly put, Faith! ), and that vulnerability is very much Chiron. It is however that point of vulnerability that opens the gate to healing and growing and transforming, but it takes a lot of trust to let someone that close. Venus-Chiron - it is through (romantic) love that healing can take place, esp. if there are no harsh aspects affecting this. In this case with the Draco Version of Venus, it seems that through adding compassion to the romance factor, both Venus-person are somehow developing their Venus skills more than even before. IP: Logged |
VirgoPILL Knowflake Posts: 436 From: cosmos Registered: Oct 2015
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posted November 23, 2015 06:00 AM
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