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comdoc
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posted December 05, 2015 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My natal Venus is 10-11 Gemini, and natal Moon in 29-30 Gemini. Recently viewed David Cochrane (programmer of Kepler and Sirius software) video on Trines, Sextiles, and Noviles (9th Harmonic) in Astrolocality. These are all smooth easy resonant harmony indicators. Novile (40) is 1/3 of Trine (120).

I can measure scalar potential energies of specific synastry combinations. Scanned all possible Trine, Sextile, Novile (40) and Binovile (80) interplanet connections to my natal Venus and Moon (said to be romantic indicators for male). For my Venus 10 Gemini, here are the resonant points in tropical Zodiac.

Cancer 20, Leo 10, Virgo 20, Libra 10, Scorpio 20, Sagi 30, Aqua 10, Pisces 20.

Most powerful partner's Venus aspects (strongest 1st) to my natal Venus or Moon. (because my natal Venus and Moon are 20 degrees apart)

Venus LIBRA 10, AQUA 10, LEO 10, LEO 25. Libra 10 conj my natal Neptune. Aqua 10 opp my n Pluto. Leo 10 conj my natal Pluto. Leo 25 conj my ASC.

Most powerful partner's Moon aspects (strongest 1st) to my natal Venus or Moon.

Moon 25 LEO (conj my natal Leo ASC) and Moon 25 LIBRA (opp my natal Aries Sun). +/- 5 degrees.

Moon 30 AQUA and Moon 30 LIBRA. Void-of-Course Moons trine my own VOC 30 Gemini Moon.
Moon 0-5 TAURUS, Moon 0-5 PISCES.

LEO 25, LIBRA 25, SAGI 10, AQUA 10, AQUA 25 planets complete powerful Star of David synastry aspect formations.

Do any of the above match your natal placements?

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posted December 05, 2015 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They match my mom's placements, lol. She was born July 13, 1948.

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posted December 05, 2015 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your reply. July 13 doesn't work well for me.

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They match my mom's placements, lol. She was born July 13, 1948.

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posted December 05, 2015 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by comdoc:
Thanks for your reply. July 13 doesn't work well for me.


Do you have any specific dates in mind?

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posted December 06, 2015 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
August 3, 1992; August 18, 1986; August 16, 1987; August 18, 1988; September 28, 1988; December 1, 1991; April 24, 1994; May 22, 1994; January 31, 1995; May 19, 1995.

August 3, 1992 is my favorite. Her Neptune is exactly conjunct my Vertex.

Neptune-Vertex/: The Vertex person is magically drawn to the Neptune person. The Vertex person easily “loses” himself in the Neptune person, and feels as though the Neptune person fulfills their innermost dreams and fantasies of the perfect mate. This is a highly spiritual, magnetic, and dreamy relationship.

This reminds me of my beloved dream mate "Beauty", who has been appearing in my dreamworld for the past 3 years! Phantom? Here's my Halloween dream with her:

"Opened my eyes and saw a radiant smiling face with mischief in her eyes on a gorgeous beautiful body that reminded me of Laily, my Indonesian Stargirl. I asked "who are you?" She replied "I'm a cutie, not a phantom--I'm REAL!" Lucidly I measured our interpersonal sexual synergy: 540. My beloved BEAUTY! *LOL* Looked at my watch; it said 12:00 midnight 10/31: All Hallow's Eve! Clever time to visit!"

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/002284.html

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Do you have any specific dates in mind?

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posted December 06, 2015 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.


my Moon and Venus are novile; and I´ve been quite drawn to a guy whose Venus fell onto the midpoint (20 degrees to each), and in fact his Juno was opposing this, it made for an interesting chart-image.

(his Venus is also the focal point of an 8th harmonic pattern and heavily involved in a 7th harmonic pattern, synastrically - while not being major aspects, I find it interesting that his Venus seems to be so involved with those harmonics, of course 8th harmonic and 9th harmonic are kind of on different sides when it comes to harmony. lol the minor aspect variation of a square and trine combo)


Anyway so for my Venus-Moon the 9th harmonic "points" fall onto:

16 -17 Aquarius- my Moon
26-27 Pisces - my Dr ASC
6-7 Taurus - my PoM, Eros/Psyche-mp, "Actor"
16-17 Gemini - my Karma
26-27 Cancer
6-7 Virgo - my asteroid Lilith
16-7 Libra
26-27 Scorpio - my Valentine


It almost gives me goosebumps realizing how much Mr Sag`s and Lancelots charts are aligned with this, which makes me think I should definitely check the 9th harmonic charts with both of them one of these days.

So thanks for inspiring me to look at that.

Of course Moon-Venus is not a "partner-pattern" for most women; in my case however they rule the 8th and 5th house, so they are not to be underestimated in that regard, plus of course having something to say about my Self-image/perception/identity as a woman, the female archetype in my personal chart.

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posted December 06, 2015 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, you're most welcome. Thanks for calling my attention to the midpoint, and the House rulers. My Venus rules the 3rd and 10th Houses. Moon rules the 12th House. Moon/Venus midpoint falls in late 10th House, just 3 degrees orb to 11th House Uranus (co-ruler of my 7th House).

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Interesting.


my Moon and Venus are novile; and I´ve been quite drawn to a guy whose Venus fell onto the midpoint (20 degrees to each), and in fact his Juno was opposing this, it made for an interesting chart-image.

(his Venus is also the focal point of an 8th harmonic pattern and heavily involved in a 7th harmonic pattern, synastrically - while not being major aspects, I find it interesting that his Venus seems to be so involved with those harmonics, of course 8th harmonic and 9th harmonic are kind of on different sides when it comes to harmony. lol the minor aspect variation of a square and trine combo)


Anyway so for my Venus-Moon the 9th harmonic "points" fall onto:

16 -17 Aquarius- my Moon
26-27 Pisces - my Dr ASC
6-7 Taurus - my PoM, Eros/Psyche-mp, "Actor"
16-17 Gemini - my Karma
26-27 Cancer
6-7 Virgo - my asteroid Lilith
16-7 Libra
26-27 Scorpio - my Valentine


It almost gives me goosebumps realizing how much Mr Sag`s and Lancelots charts are aligned with this, which makes me think I should definitely check the 9th harmonic charts with both of them one of these days.

So thanks for inspiring me to look at that.

Of course Moon-Venus is not a "partner-pattern" for most women; in my case however they rule the 8th and 5th house, so they are not to be underestimated in that regard, plus of course having something to say about my Self-image/perception/identity as a woman, the female archetype in my personal chart.


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posted December 06, 2015 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by comdoc:
Recently viewed David Cochrane (programmer of Kepler and Sirius software) video on Trines, Sextiles, and Noviles (9th Harmonic) in Astrolocality. These are all smooth easy resonant harmony indicators. Novile (40) is 1/3 of Trine (120).

This video?

Compatibility Using Harmonic Astrology

Video description:

Noviles are considered by perhaps the majority of astrologers as being of very minor importance. In this video we see how the 9th harmonic chart reveals novile aspects and related aspects in the charts of Bill and Hillary Clinton, and also of Barack Obama and Joe Biden. We find the same themes repeating in the charts of leaders of the Democratic party in the United States, and we gain clearer insights into why these individuals have risen to the top of the political ladder.

Quote from video @3:35:

"What we'll find with the harmonics is, it will fill in a story of these more complex patterns, more intricate patterns that looks more like a tapestry, rather than a set of individual aspects..."

Still watching.

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posted December 06, 2015 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was hard to finish the video since I have little interest in politics. At least not at the Presidential level.

I did catch that people with strong 9th harmonic patterns are inclined to community service.

Noviles that come to mind, in my chart:

26 Libra rectified IC novile 6 Sag Venus
6 Sag Venus novile 15 Cap sun
5 Aqua Mercury novile 15 Pisces Amor

IC-Venus-sun in a novile pattern looks fortunate, and yes I am interested in community service, though limited in what I can do at this time.

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posted December 06, 2015 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like his approach though not much into politics either.
What I took away from it and even more so reading his book and combining it with my own thoughts is that the 9th harmonic is not so much only about the feeling of harmony and happiness, but happiness derived from the feeling of "meaningfulness", which could of course be expressed or even triggered by working for a community or finding one`s "place" in the chosen "tribe" one feels belonging to.


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posted December 06, 2015 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 06, 2015 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 06, 2015 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ I like that.

Additionally:

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A strong 9th harmonic indicates idealistic, religious and at times paranormal capabilities. The 9th harmonic is associated with wisdom and composure.
http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Harmonic_Chart

So, you have paranormal capabilities centered on your moon-Venus novile? That would explain a lot.

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posted December 06, 2015 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mars 16 Gemini

Novile 26 Cancer, which is novile 6 Virgo, which is where my husband's Venus resides.

Is the word bi-novile?

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posted December 06, 2015 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your Mars is on my MOon-Venus-novile-chain.

I don´t think though wisdom is the same as paranormal abilities.

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posted December 06, 2015 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know, it's wisdom PLUS paranormal abilities, they said. The whole enchilada.

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posted December 06, 2015 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Faith, 9 is the most complex and developed single digit number; it's associated with Neptune, intuition, wisdom, dreams, OOB and astral travel. 9th Harmonic includes cross dimensional awareness and abilities. Binovile is 80 degrees.

I did a Kepler biwheel with my own and 8/3/92 Aries10ASC 9th Harmonic charts. MOST interesting! Our 9th Harmonic synastry includes my Moon+Mercury+Mars to her Mercury+Pluto, my NN to her Mars+Jupiter+Uranus, my Sun+SN to her Venus+Mars!

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I know, it's wisdom PLUS paranormal abilities, they said. The whole enchilada.

My Aries Sun conjunct your MC, your Cap Sun conj my Vertex.

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posted December 06, 2015 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
6-7 Taurus - my PoM, Eros/Psyche-mp, "Actor"

You've got EROS/PSYCHE=ACTOR, Ceri?

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posted December 06, 2015 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ And you're surprised??

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posted December 06, 2015 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, Faith, 9 is the most complex and developed single digit number; it's associated with Neptune, intuition, wisdom, dreams, OOB and astral travel. 9th Harmonic includes cross dimensional awareness and abilities. Binovile is 80 degrees.

Thanks for explaining

I wonder why the novile gets so little attention. Thinking of this opens up a whole other world for me.

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My Aries Sun conjunct your MC, your Cap Sun conj my Vertex.

Hello then! *waves*

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posted December 06, 2015 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Hello then! *waves*

Merry meet! *merry laughter*

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posted December 06, 2015 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
You've got EROS/PSYCHE=ACTOR, Ceri?

Yes, did I never mention it?

EROS/PSYCHE-mp 7°31 Taurus
ACTOR: 7°31 Taurus


BTW Mr Sag`s ISIS/OSIRIS-mp is 7°31 Taurus, isn`t that creepy?

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posted December 06, 2015 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
^ And you're surprised??

HEY!!!

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