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VirgoPILL
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posted December 21, 2015 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 22, 2015 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 22, 2015 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
hi,

i'm sorry to bother you all...

i'm wondering how damping or on the contrary good if someone's saturn, uranus and neptune (all 3 in capricorn) fall in to my 1st house? (from the house as well as the planet person's point of view)

2 semisextiles (orb2) from sat/nep to my asc (sag).

thanks for any answers!


Hmm

In my experience... Someone's saturn in your first could make you view them as someone you need to be responsible for/to/in their eyes, etc.

I have this placement with my boyfriend. He partied hard the first year we were together and grew up over time as it strained our relationship. The way he behaves now, you would think 5 years had gone by. Also, a great deal of our conversations revolve around future now, in very practical terms. He is ready for things now he was far from when we first dated. So perhaps that could impact you, depending on the nature of this relationship.

On the downside, I do think he has felt like I've restricted him somehow - even when I wasn't.

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posted December 22, 2015 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 22, 2015 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn, Uranus and Neptune traveling together through Capricorn in the mid-late 80's are a really particular kettle of fish. A dynamic blend of energies so multifaceted and integrally involved with one another that pinning their effects in a synastry overlay down without seeing that person's natal chart is inadvisable. Can't possibly say without knowing how these planets are operating in their chart how they'll be affecting you...

I would not say this is a bad overlay at all, not without a lot more information. What I will say is this.. The 1st house represents our impulse to being, our ego self, the health of our body and the importance of our essential presentation of "me-ness" to the world. With Capricorn on the ascendant (or Sag?) you are equipped to take Saturn in stride certainly, and the other, karmic, transpersonal outer Planets will give you much needed perspective and some quite deep understanding of what life is like 'on the other side' and in the big picture--through this relationship you will feel how collective consciousness, revolutionary ideas, fears, dreams--all of it--play into your personal being-ness in the world. How do you embody the archetypes of these giants? This relationship can help you find out.

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posted December 22, 2015 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 23, 2015 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 23, 2015 07:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was about to say first house IS very personal, for the first house person at least, and some other stuff, but I don't want to be labeled as a nobody, like Cappi and Yun were.

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posted December 23, 2015 07:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
hi,

i'm sorry to bother you all...

i'm wondering how damping or on the contrary good if someone's saturn, uranus and neptune (all 3 in capricorn) fall in to my 1st house? (from the house as well as the planet person's point of view)

2 semisextiles (orb2) from sat/nep to my asc (sag).

thanks for any answers!



They're positive aspects, so there's nothing to worry about. Dealing with the ascendant it may mean that one views the other as being some outward, physical manifestation of an ideal; or views the other as someone that can help them turn their own ideas into something concrete, something real.

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posted December 23, 2015 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LeeLoo2014
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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
bad day again, huh? keep trolling everybody's thread, hun! if you have nothing to contribute to the topic then move on or just keep diggin yourself and keep these uninteresting threads on top (cheers for that)!

Wow how nice! Especially the part about you saying nobody answers your posts, after two such nice posts about your question. And you think it's gonna go unnoticed tzk tzk tzk.
I guess they were trolling your thread too, right, since they are nobody to you?

You haven't noticed the info I added for you either...my my don't we need a new pair of glasses? or maybe a new mind or heart? You're welcome by the way, hun!

And thank you so very much for the gratuitous insults, that's the Christmas spirit, have it your way, a wonderful holiday, just like you!

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posted December 23, 2015 07:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spongebob:

They're positive aspects, so there's nothing to worry about. Dealing with the ascendant it may mean that one views the other as being some outward, physical manifestation of an ideal; or views the other as someone that can help them turn their own ideas into something concrete, something real.

Yeah, except when Saturn gets very critical, bossy, clingy and controlling with the first house, which he usually does, at least part of the time, in this position. The stellium even more, could become either inspiring, or overbearing for the first house. But it all depends what that stellium is for the person, if it's a stellium with a powerful relational connotation for them. That's the situation when they can be impacted on a more personal level, other than that, pristine description by the previous posters.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Wow how nice! Especially the part about you saying nobody answers your posts, after two such nice posts about your question. And you think it's gonna go unnoticed tzk tzk tzk.
I guess they were trolling your thread too, right, since they are nobody to you?

You haven't noticed the info I added for you either...my my don't we need a new pair of glasses? or maybe a new mind or heart? You're welcome by the way, hun!

And thank you so very much for the gratuitous insults, that's the Christmas spirit, have it your way, a wonderful holiday, just like you!


Please don't speak for me, i like Virgo and don't have a problem with her, and i also didn't interpret any of her comments as a slight against me or a lack of appreciation for my observations.

Even if she had expressed a lack of appreciation it wouldn't particularly bother me because i don't feel I'm owed anything for voluntarily offering an opinion on a forum.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yeah, except when Saturn gets very critical, bossy, clingy and controlling with the first house, which he usually does, at least part of the time, in this position. The stellium even more, could become either inspiring, or overbearing for the first house. But it all depends what that stellium is for the person, if it's a stellium with a powerful relational connotation for them. That's the situation when they can be impacted on a more personal level, other than that, pristine description by the previous posters.


I don't share your views on this interpretation at all.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 23, 2015 07:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody is talking to you, Spongebob, I was replying to her out of line post to me. Mind your own business. It's like kindergarten here lately.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Nobody is talking to you, Spongebob, I was replying to her out of line post to me. Mind your own business. It's like kindergarten here lately.

You specifically mentioned the last two posts made before her past comment. I was one of those two posts, you were the other.

I am asking that you not misrepresent me or include me in this series of attacks. Thank You.

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
You specifically mentioned the last two posts made before her past comment. I was one of those two posts, you were the other.

I am asking that you not misrepresent me or include me in this series of attacks. Thank You.


Hello? That post was not addressed to you.

If you want to discuss with me, Spongebob, quote my posts addressed to you, and not a conflict with someone else. It's not the first time you're interfering between two people, when they are having an animosity. I hope you're using this "quality" for the best in real life, such as triggering or messing up strikes

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
You specifically mentioned the last two posts made before her past comment. I was one of those two posts, you were the other.

I am asking that you not misrepresent me or include me in this series of attacks. Thank You.



I'm sorry to say, but you seem to have some issues with reading. I was referring to Cappi and Yun, you weren't even near this thread when I mentioned her thread has been answered to. You answered AFTER me, you are not part of the posters I mentioned, what's wrong with you?

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hello? That post was not addressed to you.

If you want to discuss with me, Spongebob, quote my posts addressed to you, and not a conflict with someone else. It's not the first time you're interfering between two people, when they are having an animosity. I hope you're using this "quality" for the best in real life, such as triggering or messing up strikes


Your post didn't have to be addressed to me, it referred to my own post and tried to speak for me when i don't agree with your statements.

I don't want to discuss anything with you; you've been extremely aggressive without provocation and im not interested in an extended exchange with you.


VirgoPILL - if you want to talk to Todd again, he's under the name "Rahu" over at the AstrologyWeekly forums. Ive contacted him there. Ive decided that when i want to discuss Relational Astrology, ill go there instead, and for General Astrology, stick to the Astrology 2.0 section of the Linda Goodman forum; this particular sub-forum is extremely hostile to newcomers.

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VirgoPILL
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posted December 23, 2015 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
Spongebob,

lol

btw, did i really sound ungrateful in that prevoius post? because if i did mea culpa, i genuinely didn't mean to. i just wanted a simple answer and to me, constructive opinion or criticism means a lot and helps going forward or improve for instance asking here questions.



Honest to God, you didn't sound ungrateful. Im a pretty straight shooter so to speak if you had id have openly admitted so. Don't worry, you're fine.

And now I really am done with this thread lol.

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posted December 23, 2015 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 23, 2015 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
butting in out of nowhere with your condesceding hypocrisy.

only one but quite philosophical question comes to my mind 'who the heck you think you are'? gosh, i never liked mean girls, they're toxic


WOW.

That was unnecessary.

LeeLoo is one of the most helpful, professional and knowledgeable astrologers present here on the forum. People might not always communicate in ways that others appreciate but we can all agree to disagree and keep things respectfully.
In addition, typed messages/posts are very susceptible to be misinterpreted.

In no way LeeLoo is a "mean girl" (quite the opposite actually). We are not at campus here


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posted December 23, 2015 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sunnya:
WOW.

That was unnecessary.

LeeLoo is one of the most helpful, professional and knowledgeable astrologers present here on the forum. People might not always communicate in ways that others appreciate but we can all agree to disagree and keep things respectfully.
In addition, typed messages/posts are very susceptible to be misinterpreted.

In no way LeeLoo is a "mean girl" (quite the opposite actually). We are not at campus here


this is not the first time she's done this and yes, her comments are bullying just like on a campus do you think this is professional behaviour? why should i respect her?

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