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yungang_grotto
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posted December 24, 2015 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Given that we are all here interested in the potential for astrology to elucidate our personal relationships, increase understanding of dynamics at play, and ultimately perhaps grow as individuals through relating, with astrology in mind, I'm thinking we can draw upon this common ground to attempt to gain clarity and insight into our interpersonal dynamics here in LindaLand.

I'm proposing that we post our natal charts here so that at any time when we observe interpersonal strife on the boards we can cool off by doing what we do: check out the charts and find reasons and enlightenment through understanding what is being activated in each of us by the other... and maybe even seeing into one another's psyche and heart and coming to love one another through the benevolent understanding fostered by the wandering stars...

I know of no better tool for coming to peace with extreme differences of opinion/modus operandi, etc. Through astrology I've been able to come to peace much more quickly with situations where I might otherwise be blaming and stewing and poisoning my inner self with harsh judgment/hatred for a long time. Instead there is clarity regarding motives, triggering, etc. and the ability to move forward in the most appropriate way.

So I hope some of you will participate; I know I'm not the perfect middle person/mediator, as I sometimes form opinions and go too far with personal comments; but we're all human, we're all on Earth school, and we are all just doing the best with what we have at the moment.

So I will hold space for dialogue here, and offer my insights on the charts in question, as a mediator, if I may--trying to be as unbiased and compassionate as possible--and also request that reflections on this thread pertain to astrological observations primarily, and citing personal observations based on one another's behaviour secondarily, ideally in keeping with a few basic principles of non-violent communication. However I want to hold space for everybody to express what they need in a genuine way. I need to see the charts though, I don't want just talking here

Love you all. Happy everything. Warm blessings. We have one life (well... anyway, we have this life!) Let's do all we can to enjoy and live in peace, be kind to one another, and generate good karma so that we can reduce suffering for all beings.

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yungang_grotto
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posted December 24, 2015 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Simple:

More Stuff:

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yungang_grotto
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posted December 24, 2015 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooo busted, osc Lilith is at 2 something in this one. I swear sometimes it's at 1 Makes sense that Lilith opposes Ceres in my chart... my daughter's Lilith is conjunct my Ceres. ... it's not really funny though lol...

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posted December 24, 2015 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

^ Rectified, not official. I was told I was born at 6:45 pm and dialed it back 11 minutes for a more functional chart.

Please no one copy.

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Faith
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posted December 24, 2015 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't make the empty space above my chart go away and it irritates the hell out of me. Also, I cropped the image correctly and imgur extra-crops it. I've tried twice. But Mercury is Rx.

Anyway!

yungang, your sun's on my NN, so I'm following your lead...

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yungang_grotto
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posted December 24, 2015 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, and your moon's just shy of mine , and conjunct my Ceres. I feel that as well as your Dsc on my Pallas-Amor thingy .. not too much to worry about between us I think, and indeed, some things to be thankful for! Thank you for posting

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posted December 24, 2015 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread *is* somewhat 20-21-ish degrees Scorpio I guess, in some ways Dredging up the unwieldy or unsavoury, acknowledging unflinchingly the muck at the bottom (though it's admittedly already been swirling about!), and revealing it to contain lotus seeds...

Love your Kaali there. She's conjunct my NN also

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posted December 24, 2015 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't worked with Pholus much but it's interesting to see him on my NN here. Chaos, yes? Unpredictable, enlightening? Sudden, cathartic? Hmm hmm!

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posted December 24, 2015 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a chart, overall, though, wow!! No surprise. That is one nice rectangle... Jupiter, holy dinah! and the Moon t-square is quite something also eh? Fascinating.

((Hoping it's ok to directly reference specific chart factors? Will gladly delete if not!))

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posted December 24, 2015 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I have Moon conjunct Neptune at 8 Capricorn too!

And thank you for the nice post.


Since the Heliocentric chart is of our higher self I think it would awesome to post that chart with your Natal. I think that exact conjunctions between the Natal and Helio represent how our higher consciousness gets through into our human life. Its kind of like an open door. I also think that planets involved in exact conjunctions from the Natal are extra special and are a blueprint of your gifts from source.

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posted December 24, 2015 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^Whoa! Athene, that's quite the coincidence!! Would love to see the rest of your chart... And I love this suggestion. Any charts anybody feels describe their soul well can absolutely be shared. I'll try to pull up my helio this evening if I've time

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posted December 24, 2015 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yungang, I just LOVE that you started this thread! You are amazing! I have 3 babies and its Christmas eve, so I must defer my natal chart posting for another time. Although I see my moon is conjunct your vesta. 😊 this forum needs great people like you...such a leader and a blessing. Best gift on LL tonite and so appropriate.

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posted December 25, 2015 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi yungang

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not too much to worry about between us I think

Nope, it's all good!

Adding some synastry notes:

I think it's your Pallas on my Mercury that feels so refreshing and familiar. I think our matching Jupiter-Mars sextiles in Aries/Gemini creates a matching, "uppity" energy. Your Mars is on my Vesta, your Jupiter on my Ceres, so your natal yod with Vesta-ASC at the apex becomes a synastry yod with me.

Your Chiron, apex of a yod with my Mercury and Venus.

Your moon-Neptune on my DNA.

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Hoping it's ok to directly reference specific chart factors?

Definitely!

Hope others post charts.

This would make a good reference library...and then we could remark on each others' charts without seeming creepy, ie, Ooooo I remember your chart from when you posted it two years ago. Those of us with good memories shouldn't have to be ashamed of it.

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Love you all. Happy everything. Warm blessings. We have one life (well... anyway, we have this life!) Let's do all we can to enjoy and live in peace, be kind to one another, and generate good karma so that we can reduce suffering for all beings.

Thank you!

Love & Peace to all ~


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posted December 25, 2015 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I think that exact conjunctions between the Natal and Helio represent how our higher consciousness gets through into our human life. Its kind of like an open door. I also think that planets involved in exact conjunctions from the Natal are extra special and are a blueprint of your gifts from source.

I have Helio Mercury at 23 Aries conjunct tropical Chiron. Helio Jupiter at 27 Aries conjunct tropical MC.

That's it.

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posted December 25, 2015 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

Helio Venus conjunct natal Pluto exactly
Helio moon opposite natal mars exactly
Uranus/nn but I have it in natal.

No idea what it means exactly.
Venus must be important though as its my chart ruler also..

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Aubyanne
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posted December 25, 2015 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, damn. If Yanmorg uploads hers, our mutual admiration society will be way too obvious.

Ah, well. Very nice idea, Yungang. Wonderfully diplomatic and absolutely misdirecting. So Scorp.

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yungang_grotto
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posted December 25, 2015 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Misdirecting? Lil ol me? (Thank you Auby )

I will say this:

Chaaaaarts *slow shuffle* chaaaaaarts
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^^chart zombie

Faith: very insightful observations... I'm too shy to go into it in depth--or I was--anyway sometimes I do things half assed out of general weirdness. but I like what you said fresh, familiar! Yes!

Not only is my Pallas on your Mercury but your Uranus is mighty close to mine!--maybe even at my Asc-Mercury or Asc-Pluto midpoint... edit:yup to both, by 2' the Asc-Pluto mp.

My Sun/Moon midpoint is at 14 Sag 2 degrees shy of your Neptune and nearly opposite your Mars as well.

Also, just gotta say: gotta love your POF on my Vertex!! Now that's pure gold Let it flow! Haha..

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posted December 25, 2015 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I open my helio chart I tend to just stare at the big triangle and check some synastry and shrug.. maybe it will give more insights at a later time! I trust it may

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posted December 25, 2015 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Well, damn. If Yanmorg uploads hers, our mutual admiration society will be way too obvious.
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Would be totally happy if this thread just turned into a big love-in!!!

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posted December 25, 2015 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice thread, Yun

My chart is here, I am linking for I just posted it: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004383.html

It's such an interesting synastry

Mercury conj Venus, even wider, very nice! My Mercury is learning a lot from your Venusian skills, I am taking this opportunity to say it. And this is one of the best aspects to have, any Mercury Venus aspect, for mutual understanding and teaming up.

I think the coolest aspect here is your Aries Point Mars opp my Aries Point Mars, Cardinal wow! I feel this behaves like a dance, while strangely at times it seems you have Mars in Libra, and me in Aries, although we are both direct, it looks like taking turns...I think this feelings is given by the dispositor Venus conj my own Mars dispositor, Mercury. In fact, my Mars is disp by a Mercury Venus mutual reception, so Mercury/Venus aspects is something I feel strongly, and also an important part of my being, for the entire Libra stellium is disp by this combo. So, from my side, I am feeling it strongly activated in the interaction with you.

Then your Moon Neptune stellium falling in my 12th ooops no where to hide from you


and of course, your Scorpio stellium conj my MC, so future oriented

My Venus is near your SN. I wonder if you feel it and how.

And last not least my Moon conj your MC
So we have a Yin/Yang mutual luminary MC conjunction, look at that tandem!

We both have Merc conj Pluto, these people always feel each other there is a deep probing nature with this, perhaps no one else, not having it, has it.

I can talk someone to death, can you do it too? By this I mean if there is an intense debate, or I am passionate about a topic and decide talking about it, I am the last one standing, everyone around falling asleep or succumb to exhaustion

Thank you again for the beautiful words you said about me

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posted December 25, 2015 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright so I hardly ever post my chart, but here it goes...


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posted December 25, 2015 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Lotis, it's nice to see your chart, I'll be back to look deeper, just on a first glance it's interesting to see so many Aries Points and the MC contacts, they seem to stand out in several charts (my MC 16 Scorpio, Venus 6 Virgo)

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posted December 25, 2015 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 25, 2015 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are such a sweet soul, Yun.

(I doubt that the analyzing will help in actual situations of crisis, cause astrology tends to be abused as a fighting-tool as I Noticed in recent years, but it is totally interesting nevetheless.)


Well my chart is plastered all over here, but here goes

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posted December 25, 2015 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, my Pluto exactly on your NN. Looks fun

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