posted December 25, 2015 11:46 PM            

I've found that, unless there's a tropical conjunction from either natal, there's nothing to anchor the energy in the present, and it remains potential.

But potential for what?

Draconic points are the most evolved form of them; it's where the tropical has 'learnt its lessons' and grown in a soul-centred manner. We don't start out this way. It takes time, effort, maturity, and -- well -- evolution.

posted December 26, 2015 05:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Draconic points must be activated.

I've found that, unless there's a tropical conjunction from either natal, there's nothing to anchor the energy in the present, and it remains potential.

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Exactly what I observed, too.

posted December 26, 2015 05:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
The 'official' pairing is EROS/PSYCHE.

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Which is still up for debate.
Just because someone put it down in a book or on a website and it got repeated from then, does not make it official.
Actually following the myth Cupido is the official counterpart of Psyche, she is never even mentioned in relation to Eros in the text.

Of course that is hairsplitting as the astrological community somehow agreed on Eros being the counterpart (even though the agreement mostly happened by copying what someone else said on some website).

Don`t get me wrong though, I love Eros.

posted December 26, 2015 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Draconic points must be activated.

I've found that, unless there's a tropical conjunction from either natal, there's nothing to anchor the energy in the present, and it remains potential.

But potential for what?

Draconic points are the most evolved form of them; it's where the tropical has 'learnt its lessons' and grown in a soul-centred manner. We don't start out this way. It takes time, effort, maturity, and -- well -- evolution.

Draconic points also require karmic resolution before true activation. If you'd like to know what, specifically, cast the 'Ketu chart' (for lack of better). Which is just taking the signs opposite those in the Draconic. Look for conjunctions to the tropical. It should provide insight.

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posted December 26, 2015 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Draconic points must be activated.

I've found that, unless there's a tropical conjunction from either natal, there's nothing to anchor the energy in the present, and it remains potential.

But potential for what?

Draconic points are the most evolved form of them; it's where the tropical has 'learnt its lessons' and grown in a soul-centred manner. We don't start out this way. It takes time, effort, maturity, and -- well -- evolution.

Draconic points also require karmic resolution before true activation. If you'd like to know what, specifically, cast the 'Ketu chart' (for lack of better). Which is just taking the signs opposite those in the Draconic. Look for conjunctions to the tropical. It should provide insight.

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posted December 26, 2015 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
The person who read my Draconic chart never stated that there had to be a conjunction from either natal to anchor the energy.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004038.html

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Some people may have a different view on this, or not having thought about mentioning it.

There are many astrological approaches/methods/theories/schools, there is not ONE that ALL agree on. Maybe that is the problem you have with the interpretations here? That they reflect too many different approaches.

Simple answer is: There is no black-and-white-answer.

What was written here reflects Aubyann`s and my take on it; does not mean every astrologer will agree with us. Some will, some won`t.

It it entirely possible that Draco-Draco operates on a level all on its own, however to see some every-day-real-life manifestations I think you will need anchors to the tropical chart cause that is the chart that represents the every-day-real-life. the Here and now.

But again even in THIS there might be astrologers who have a different take.

But all I can give you is MY take, what makes sense to me.

posted December 26, 2015 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Some people may have a different view on this, or not having thought about mentioning it.

There are many astrological approaches/methods/theories/schools, there is not ONE that ALL agree on. Maybe that is the problem you have with the interpretations here? That they reflect too many different approaches.

Simple answer is: There is no black-and-white-answer.

What was written here reflects Aubyann`s and my take on it; does not mean every astrologer will agree with us. Some will, some won`t.

It it entirely possible that Draco-Draco operates on a level all on its own, however to see some every-day-real-life manifestations I think you will need anchors to the tropical chart cause that is the chart that represents the every-day-real-life. the Here and now.

But again even in THIS there might be astrologers who have a different take.

But all I can give you is MY take, what makes sense to me.

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posted December 26, 2015 11:41 AM            

Then you locate where the Draconic Eros and Psyche are (on what degree in what sign), and then you turn to the tropical chart and see if there are planets near these degrees (within 3 degrees before and after), if so then you have an anchor into the tropical chart.

posted December 26, 2015 12:27 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
The person who read my Draconic chart never stated that there had to be a conjunction from either natal to anchor the energy.

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I feel that the Draconic becomes superfluous if only regarded as a 'karmic chart' (that's what the sidereal evaluates) or presumed immediately relevant. That's what the tropical outlines.

But how much does the average individual relate to their Draconic natal? Not until they've grown significantly in the direction of their soul's path. As we follow our spiritual evolution, we develop our Draconic chart. It isn't before that.

Why I suggest we should see conjunctions from the tropical, is that it's this chart which we constantly experience and use in the present lifeline. We don't have to 'do anything' to activate, utilise, or experience the tropical. It's there, constantly operating.

With the sidereal, we've been there / done that; these feelings, traits, and even memories, are ingrained from other lifelines, so we have them underlying us. They're accessible from the present lifeline -- but if there's a tropical point on the sidereal one, it gives it a greater impact and influence. It's also operating.

The Draconic, on the other hand, is not immediately accessible or present. It must be developed.

posted December 26, 2015 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I should mention, [b]ChildofVenus, that I practise multidimensional astrology, which isn't very common and utilises some very distinct approaches I've not seen anywhere else. [/B]

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posted December 26, 2015 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Ok so how would I be able to see if there is a conjunction? I have used astro.com before but what exactly do I need to look for?

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posted December 26, 2015 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
ChildofVenus,

is there any particular reason you are ignoring my input and post, in which I explained to you how you can spot a conjunction?

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posted December 26, 2015 06:09 PM            

Draconic Chart

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Can you post the Draconic and tropical natals? So that I can view the synastry?

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posted December 27, 2015 01:24 PM            

Nonetheless, it appears that his dMERC (Draconic MERCURY) is 2° conjunct your (natal) MOON, with his dURA 0° conjunct. That appears to be the Draco-tropical link between you.

His dMERC-dURA conjunction in Aquarius shows that he's capable of great intellectual innovations and insights, once he allows his intuition to take the driver seat. Your emotional approach, attitude, demeanor and way of processing your own intuition can prove very insightful to him in this regard. He'll unconsciously learn how to develop these traits within himself by experiencing your emotional nature.

From the looks of it, there's no major outstanding karma between you. Both have skipped steps, but you're not each other's skipped steps -- if that makes sense? In other words, you both have other soulmates with major outstanding karma. It's not a part of this relationship.

posted December 28, 2015 04:10 PM            

I just don't get why I'm so attracted to this man if we have no binding aspects or no chance at having a friendship. It must just be something going wrong with me then. I wish there was someone I could talk to about this situation because it's really been upsetting me a lot.

I really don't know what to think about all of this anymore. People here who have read our synastry basically said the guy didn't like me. Well why has he been harassing me on facebook. Adding me to fake accounts etc. I don't understand any of this he tells me to leave him alone that he wants nothing to do with me. Yet he keeps adding me on fake accounts. So why won't he leave me alone period if he wants nothing to do with me. I guess this must be his way of getting back at me for not leaving him alone when he asked me. Well it's still insane if a person doesn't want to be bothered with you wouldn't they just leave you alone altogether.

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ceridwen gave excellent advice on how to locate it yourself, I agree.

Nonetheless, it appears that his dMERC (Draconic MERCURY) is 2° conjunct your (natal) MOON, with his dURA 0° conjunct. That appears to be the Draco-tropical link between you.

His dMERC-dURA conjunction in Aquarius shows that he's capable of great intellectual innovations and insights, once he allows his intuition to take the driver seat. Your emotional approach, attitude, demeanor and way of processing your own intuition can prove very insightful to him in this regard. He'll unconsciously learn how to develop these traits within himself by experiencing your emotional nature.

From the looks of it, there's no major outstanding karma between you. Both have skipped steps, but you're not each other's skipped steps -- if that makes sense? In other words, you both have other soulmates with major outstanding karma. It's not a part of this relationship.

This one's not too significant, incidentally. You're just passing through each other's lives, offering lessons or sharing traits and gifts along the way. Nothing particularly binding, or extremely karmic.

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