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posted February 16, 2016 11:19 PM            

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I think he is honestly into you based on what I am seeing and I feel you should go for it!

I don't get the sense at all he is just seeing you as a hook up.

is in the air.

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posted February 17, 2016 07:31 AM            

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OK thanks CC. I pay close attention to the angles in any chart and thought the same thing. Just haven't experienced it before...at least that I am aware of.

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I have experienced it that's why I replied as soon as I saw that. Had it with my ex husband. My Mars on his Asc. We are heading for divorce, he does not want to. This aspect has always played a big part in our relationship, he is just really attracted to my energy and physical appearance. And this is the kind of attraction that he cannot understand, even now it's still there. Were it Venus, he would say he finds me beautiful but with Mars it's different. He says the attraction is always there, even after years of being together. It's the body he is attracted to )) Mars, physicality. I like how the 1st house synastry empowers the house person! Because usually it's the house person that's affected. NOT so with 1st house, it's vice versa. Put a bunch of planets in their 1st and they are smitten by you, very nice indeed! Use it girl

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posted February 17, 2016 07:40 AM            

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Wait, is that Mars also conjuncts your Saturn and therefore also sits on his Asc?? Girl..you are going to drive this poor man crazy. He will be chasing you but you will be restricting him. Very frustrating for him! Stop go stop go..you get it. Looks like it's already happening. Your Mars/Saturn also makes nice aspect to his Moon, so does your Pluto. So considering Moon and Venus are most important planets for men in synastry because it's their sexual planets, his Moon is very happy with you - passion, sense of stability. His Venus too receives a flowing aspect to your Mars.

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posted February 17, 2016 02:55 PM            

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Thanks todd. Although I don't understand how the attraction can run deep but passing. Is that the Uranus/Mars square in action?

I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about the yod. Not significant in this case?

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psyche is conjuct to lilth . lilth is at the base of all emotional sensitivity. so his attraction just rises from the connection between he and you. and the Uranus/mars opposition does give him a wandering and independent position.

the finger of god is a bit ominous in a composite. But the Chiron square to Jupiter is more of a problem as it shows a critical , controlling nature. chiron can be extremely manipulative and vindictive.

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posted February 17, 2016 03:32 PM            

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roseelima16,
Wow...thanks for studying the synastry so closely.

You are correct that I fear for my reputation. Not necessarily professional, more of my social standing. I don't want word getting around that I messed around with this guy because I don't want it to get back to people in the community or in my immediate environment...mainly my kids.

I just don't trust him to be private about it...if something were ever to happen between us. Strange given our stellium in the 10th house composite I suppose!

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posted February 17, 2016 03:35 PM            

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I think he is honestly into you based on what I am seeing and I feel you should go for it!

I don't get the sense at all he is just seeing you as a hook up.

is in the air.

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LOL hypatia. I should clarify that I'm not making a decision on whether or not I'm going to see him. I'm dating someone else now and I do not sleep with more than one person at a time. I'm just looking for the "why" factor in all this. Maybe someday I'll go down that road with him, but not right now.

You are sweet! Love the fireworks!

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posted February 17, 2016 03:41 PM            

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Oh CC, it's not on purpose!

It does make sense, the whole planet placement in the 1st house I suppose. Never looked at it like that.

Sorry about your divorce...it's tough...but I'm glad I went through it now.

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posted February 17, 2016 03:42 PM            

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Thanks todd. With Chiron and Jupiter and the traits you mentioned, would that be represented by the male or female, or both?

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posted February 17, 2016 04:21 PM            

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Thanks todd. With Chiron and Jupiter and the traits you mentioned, would that be represented by the male or female, or both?

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the chiron/pluto square would relate to your conversations which shows extremely intelligent and analytical discourses. the square implies some major differences of opinions, likely differences on occult subjects. with mars conjunct to Chiron, it seems he would be the one to ne most critical and controlling.

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Ah, ok thanks for the clarification.

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posted February 18, 2016 12:45 AM            

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LOL hypatia. I should clarify that I'm not making a decision on whether or not I'm going to see him. I'm dating someone else now and I do not sleep with more than one person at a time. I'm just looking for the "why" factor in all this. Maybe someday I'll go down that road with him, but not right now.

You are sweet! Love the fireworks!

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posted February 18, 2016 09:49 AM            

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roseelima16,
Wow...thanks for studying the synastry so closely.

You are correct that I fear for my reputation. Not necessarily professional, more of my social standing. I don't want word getting around that I messed around with this guy because I don't want it to get back to people in the community or in my immediate environment...mainly my kids.

I just don't trust him to be private about it...if something were ever to happen between us. Strange given our stellium in the 10th house composite I suppose!

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Glad my hint about the synastry worked out, Illewsacm! Sorry, I didn't check the Composite before. Yep, a packed 10th house in the composite makes a couple get a lot of attention in terms of public life (for the good and the bad). This is particularly true cause the ruler of the 10th, Neptune is right on the DC. I saw you have Sun-Venus conjunction which is really good and Venus is exalted: it shows the foundation of the relationship is based on love feelings. Mercury rules the 1st and the 4th houses and is also tightly conjunct to the Sun-Venus: easy and sweet communication will be the core of this relationship. Saturn conjunct North Node shows that themes like commitment, responsibility and boundaries are karmic lessons to be learned through this interaction. As you are older than him and Saturn rules the composite 8th house, you'd probably be the mentor of that process and the dynamic could be very transformative for both of you, specially for him. The big troublemaker I see in this Composite is Neptune. Since you both have a DW Neptune-DC conjunction in synastry, that planet shouldn't be neglected here. Neptune is right on the DC and this is usually seen in partnerships that are characterized by the lack of boundaries and vulnerability to damage or breakup involving other people. This is reinforced by Jupiter (planet of expansion) ruling the DC and placed in his original house, the 9th (expansive and socially interactive house). Neptune is about emotional diffusion (higher octave of Venus), so the one who has stronger Neptunian energies going crazy in the natal chart would be prone to infidelity. Although Saturn (planet of commitment) is not strongly linked to Neptune through aspect (very loose square), Saturn is in Pisces, then controlled by Neptune, so the commitment would be definitely attached to having the expectations met in this relationship. If they don't, the commitment could be easily carried away by Neptune's insatisfaction and Saturn trine Uranus creates an easy condition for impulsive and unpredictable decisions to get the fulfillment that is not being felt. As Neptune also square the Sun-Mercury-Venus combo, that kind of situation would create insincerity and damage the purpose, the feelings and the communication that once brought you together. But the spiritual-sexual connection would be strong and comfortable, a real mark of this relationship (Psyche conjunct Lilith in the 4th). Pluto placed in the 5th (house of love) and ruling the 6th house (house of service) shows sexual intensity, emotional depth and attachment between you and a strong desire to please one another. As you already have kids, that placement of Pluto in the 5th says the he wouldn't ignore them, he'd probably try to establish a relationship. The 5th house Pluto is ruled by Venus (conjunct to Sun-Mercury in the 10th). I think he'd try to get along with them as a part of a relationship with you but since Pluto is retrograde jealousy, manipulation, revenge could arise from his side if he feels you're focusing on them and not giving him enough attention. As Pluto sextile Neptune, he could easily take that "rejection" as a motif to secretly look for something outside the relationship (Neptune). The stellium you have in the 10th is powerful and it would be what holds the relationship together. The bottom line is that it's a Pisces stellium (controlled by Neptune) so if that planet really became a troublemaker it would definitely tear things apart. I don't see Neptune in good conditions here by sign (Sagittarius), by placement (on the DC) and by aspects (square Saturn, square Sun-Mercury-Venus and trine Pluto). I always like checking the dispositor, and Neptune's is Jupiter. Jupiter is in Aquarius (another expansive sign); placed in an expansive house (9th); in a exact square to a 12th house Mars in Taurus (planet of sex in the sign of physical pleasures in the house of clandestine affairs); in a square to Uranus (its ruler, the planet of disruption), in a trine to 5th house Pluto (planet of secrets) and in a sextile to Neptune (the planet it rules itself). In my opinion, there's too much expansiveness and the whole dynamic I described is not good for the necessary boundaries that a traditional committed relationship requires. I do think you'll have a tendency of getting deeply involved but in a form of a transformative secret affair. That was a quick look but I guess I mentioned the things that really caught my attention.

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posted February 18, 2016 06:08 PM            

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Rose, this is amazing insight! Ty!!! Yeah, I could see him drifting elsewhere for sure. I always get these needy guys for some reason!!!

I'm gonna read thru it again and provide more comments later.

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posted February 18, 2016 08:19 PM            

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Rose, this is amazing insight! Ty!!! Yeah, I could see him drifting elsewhere for sure. I always get these needy guys for some reason!!!

I'm gonna read thru it again and provide more comments later.

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Hi, Illewsacm! Sorry I always write too much, lol. I hadn't seen that Moon-Vertex connection in the synastry. I honestly think this contributes a lot to make him pursue you. Vertex connections are very magnetic and very hard to resist. I'm saying that cause I had this aspect in synastry, an exact conjunction with a guy in a distant past (he was the Moon and I was the Vertex) and I pursued him everytime we got in touch again, lol! I think your gut is right about not trusting that guy. I was checking his natal placements and he has Sun-Mercury conjunct in Pisces plus Jupiter. Mercury is in fall in Pisces and conjunct the Sun, it can make a person dreamy and lacking logical mind to make appropriate decisions. His logic is dictated my Neptune, the master of unrealistic expectations. His Moon is in Aquarius in the 9th and its ruler, Uranus, is in Sagittarius in the 7th; his Venus is in Cap, but in the 9th and its ruler Saturn, is also in Sagittarius conjunct Uranus in the 7th (house of other people). His planet of expansion, Jupiter, is also in Pisces (sign ruled by Neptune and co-ruled by Jupiter itself) in the 11th house (originally ruled by Uranus and co-ruled by Saturn). All those natal configurations show he has a strong expansive nature. I was wondering about that stellium in the 10th house of the composite and then came to my mind that if you had a formal relationship with this guy, the stellium that holds the relationship together could also become a nightmare for you. I think he could make bad decisions based on his emotional Mercury (in Pisces) and expose the relationship he had with you to others (10th house). I don't think he would need much for that, honestly, just not having his needs fulfilled the way he'd like. I think he'd be prone to that cause his Neptunian energy in the natal is strong: 3 planets in Pisces (2 personal, including one luminary); one personal planet in the 12th (original Pisces house); Neptune in the 8th (fixed water house) and Mars in the 12th both linked to the personal planets in Pisces through sextiles. Even the AC, Sun and Mercury placements in the composite are similar to his natal placements, showing he could easily identity with and expect more from the relationship than you.

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