posted February 18, 2016 04:13 AM            

What do you think it could mean in a Venus-Return-chart?

posted February 18, 2016 06:38 AM            

But mostly love

How does it look?

posted February 18, 2016 07:18 AM            

Plus Tr EROS will be conjunct my n PSYCHE by 2 degrees.

Anyway let`s focus on the Yod. There are several points that look important to me about that.
But I am curious what you see there.
It`s not completely perfect/ exact, with the orb of Moon-Mars exceeding 2 degrees, but I definitely think it`s still a Yod.

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posted February 18, 2016 11:10 AM            

Well, I think my Venus Returns look increasingly more interesting as the years go by. lol
I thought this year`s return was looking exciting already (though not easy and smooth, like my Solar Return this year`s Venus-Return has an exact Mercury-Pluto-conjunction).

posted February 18, 2016 11:29 AM            

November 2013:
Venus conjunct Pluto (3) 6-9 Cap
Moon conjunct Chiron exact 9 Pisces
Lilith conjunct Jupiter 17-20 Cancer
Saturn conjunct Sun 14-19 Scorpio

December 2014:
Juno conjunct Jupiter 17-22 Leo
DESC conjunct Saturn 28-29 Scorpio
Ceres conjunct Sun 20-23 Sag
Sun conjunct Mercury 23-27 Sag
Uranus conjunct SN 12-16 Aries

January 2016 (just started on 28th)
ASC conjunct NN conjunct Jupiter 19-22 Virgo
Juno conjunct Mars 12-13 Scorpio
Saturn conjunct IC 13-16 Sag
Mercury conjunct Pluto 15 Cap
Vertex conjunct Neptune 6-8 Pisces
Chiron conjunct DESC 18-19 Pisces

november 2016
Mercury conjunct ASC 7 Sag
Neptune conjunct SN 9 Pisces
Uranus conjunct Ceres 21-22 Aries
(and of course the MOon-Venus-opposition)

december 2017
Mars conjunct Jupiter 13-16 Scorpio
Saturn conjunct Lilith conjunct Venus conjunct Sun 1-8 Cap (1, 5, 6, 8)
NN conjunct MC conjunct Ceres (15-17 Leo; Ceres-MC just 4 minutes orb)

february 2019
Sun conjunct Lilith 20 Aqua
(hey a New Moon with my natal Moon!)
Mars conjunct Uranus 26-29 Aries
Ceres conjunct MC 4-9 Sag (wide I know)

also very wide
Saturn 15 Cap
Pluto 21 Cap
SN 26 Cap

december 2019
IC conjunct Sun 4-8 Sag
Ceres conjunct Venus conjunct SN 5-8 Cap
(seems I can`t get rid of Ceres EVER again, )
Saturn conjunct Pluto 17-21 Cap

january 2021
ASC conjunct NN 18-19 Gemini
Sun conjunct Pluto conjunct Moon: 23, 24, 27 Cap
SAturn conjunct Jupiter conjunct Mercury: 3, 5, 8 Aqua
Mercury on MC 8-12 Aqua
Ceres conjunct Neptune 16-18 Pisces
Mars conjunct Uranus conjunct Avx conjunct Lilith; 3-6-6-9 Taurus

sorry, just got carried a way, but that was fun. lol Though my Returns do not look particularly funny, at least partially.

posted February 18, 2016 11:44 AM            

So that chart has:

DESC on 26 Sagittarius, exact on my n Sun
and in fact the hCupido is on 26 Sag as well

It also has an out of sign full Moon, of Moon on 29 Leo in 4th opposing Sun on 2 Pisces in 10th

then there is the exact Jupiter-NN-conjunction exactly falling onto 5th house cusp

Lilith once again making a T-square with the opposition to Uranus and square to Pluto

Juno on the Vertex 2 degrees

widish Venus-Mercury conjunction of 5 degrees

exact Ceres-Neptune-conjunction on 9 Pisces again (I guess I REALLY have to get down to what that strange Ceres-configuration in my natal chart means, with her being intercepted conjunct my Jupiter and square my Neptune-Node, a skipped step for me? well seems it is going to catch up with me that skipped step)

posted February 18, 2016 11:52 AM            

You made me look up my upcoming return at it turns out it'll happen in 2 days. In the event chart: Uranus conjunct DSC, Sun conjunct Neptune in the 5th (wide), Eros conjunct Pluto and Anteros 2 degrees behind. Yeah, sure

posted February 18, 2016 02:55 PM            

Uranus on the DESC in Venus return?
Be prepared for suprising encounters you cannot prepare for!

As for my cycle I guess I am more open to pairing up than I ever was before, though not THAT open as most other people. Still not convinced I would even BE relationship material.

You know my chart maybe, it`s all 1st quadrant (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Neptune, NN in 1st house, Mars conj. ASC, Moon in 2nd, ruler of the chart in 3rd house).
So much 1st quadrant is frequently found in the charts of autists or aspergers; no I am neither, but I DO have a tendency to be rather egocentric (not necessarily egotistical or selfish), but I certainly am more prone to individualism than seeking out company. Well I do like company, but I donīt NEED a relationship because I can`t be alone or am lonely or whatever, which makes me rather uncompromising I guess. Some would call it idealistic, if I am looking through my truth-glasses though, I do tend it is more uncompromising than idealistic or romantic.
However IF I should get into a relationship, there is only one reason that could ever happen. I would have completely lost my mind.
I mean it LITERALLY, being a "little bit in love" or attracted or shared qualities or plans or whatever, wouldn`t work for me. If I can even imagine someone else being IT for me, I wouldn`t even move a single finger to make that relationship happen, cause it wouldn`t be the right one anyway. I mean if I suspect someone better might come along, why even start with the first one?

But well some things have been changing, not just my thoughtpatterns, but also the emotional process, HOW I feel, which is different than it was before. (maybe it does have something to do with my physical transformation, I don`t know, but I used to be even unable to really know what I was feeling, if I was feeling, when I was feeling it, every access to feelings always through the mental - this changed. I have a pretty direct access to my feelings nowadays, and well usually through the physical. I mean not necessarily sexual, but whatever I feel, when I feel, I can feel resonating within me, like a vibration going throughout my body. It`s pretty exhausting sometimes actually. lol)

But anyway I guess I will never be a real relationship-oriented woman, not like most other people are.

Interestingly however with all my 1st quadrant planets I have a bucket formation. A bowl with all planets spread out on the left, eastern, Me-side of the chart.
But the handle of my bucket is Saturn in Cancer in 8th house, which means that he is sort of the gatekeeper and everything, relaly, literally everthing gets channelled through him; it`s through that Saturn I relate to the outer world, no matter what nice Sag-planets I have on the other side.

Interestingly this poor Saturn of mine has been really put through the wringer for the last years, and is still under the aftermath of a couple of squares from Tr Uranus, and now in the midst of Tr Pluto opposing n Saturn.

Apart from any Venus-return or Solar return chart, I guess that is pretty much the basic quality of this timeframe. A transformation and restructuring of that Saturn. And I better make a good job of it, or I might have to face the ugly side of Pluto-Saturn.

Anyway, I guess in short, it will always be complicated for me, and taking more of a leap of faith and pushing my comfort zone than for most people, but probably I have never been more open towards taking that risk than I am now, or approaching it.

As for Ceres, as I said intriguing. in Pisces however and squaring Neptune, I guess there is a bit of an allencompassing spiritual vibration to her, maybe more loving all children unconditionally instead of just biological ones?
Might even represent my pupils, or children who I may not have been given birth to but care for nevertheless (like a friend`s child, or maybe even my brother`s child? Or yes even a stepchild. Well Ceres is in 3rd house - and the 3rd house in the derivate system is the 5th house counted from the 11th, children of friends or even - if we want to make it complicated - children of the partner of a lover - 5th house from 11th house- interestingly the ruler of my 3rd house is Uranus on the cusp of 11th house, and that represents children of a partner, too among other things of course, but that would take this system too far I guess. )

Whatever that is about nurturing and caring and possibly children (or nutrition even) I guess I am in for a surprise development which might change my whole home-life, with that Uranus-Ceres-conjunction in 4th house, conjunct my n Chiron, yes, I am aware of it, but also squaring my n Vertex-axis - more surprises? )

My Venus-returns probably also need to be seen in light of her rulership in my chart, and she is a triple ruler, 5th, 6th, 10th house.
The last one actually I believe had more to do with the 6th and 10th house scenario (it had the Return Moon conjunct my n MC exact and in return 6th house plus some more mentioning of 2nd and 10th house - I think it had to do with my promotion and financial increase and slight statuschange more than with anything else).

However it is still true, Venus rules my 5th house, so any return might be revealing to 5th house matters as well, be it hobbies, creativity, children, fun or romance.

With Moon AND Venus being so prominently placed in the next Venus return, and repeating their natal rulership (8th and 5th house in particular), with the ruler of DESC falling exact on the ASC (in return and natal chart) and not to forget with the Venus-midpoints there, I can`t help but think this might actually vibrate a little more with 5th house function of Venus. It just looks more relational somehow.

as for the midpoints I mentioned, I just loved seeing those:

Venus conjunct Mercury/Mars
Venus conjunct Mars/ASC
Jupiter conjunct Venus/Vertex
Uranus square Venus/Mars
Uranus conjunct Moon/Mars
Sun conjunct Venus/Jupiter
Sun square Moon/Jupiter
Node square Mars/Jupiter
MC opposite Moon/Venus

not sure if I like these though ;

Saturn conjunct Sun/Venus
Saturn square Sun/Moon

Well of course probably the foundation is being laid in the Venus return that just started, and that has especially nice midpoint pictures tied to Mars of all planets. lol

Mars conjunct Venus/ASC
Mars conjunct Venus/Jupiter
Mars conjunct Venus/Node

Venus conjunct Jupiter/Uranus
Venus conunct Uranus/Node

Uranus conjunct Mars/jupiter
Uranus conjunct Mars/Node
Uranus conjunct Mars/ASC

Vertex square Sun/Moon
(a repeeated natal aspect, just like the Venus=Jupiter/Uranus picture).

posted February 18, 2016 03:48 PM            

Speaking of Saturn, tPluto will bulldoze mine in a few years. Can't wait -_- So you think your transit oppostion is part of your transformation? When it comes to Uranus, it's currently applying to my Sun in a square. I'm looking forward to becoming weirder

Won't speak about Ceres, my Chiron and Saturn square that bish

posted February 19, 2016 02:33 PM            

It's also interesting to notice Pluto on 2nd cusp in connection to this, since Pluto there is bound to bring some major transformation related to intimacy as well, relational goals and aspirations, the body too, sensuality, desire to merge in a very tangible and real way, on your Moon/Saturn axis. And of course the Mercury/Juno/Mars/ASC sextile can't be more telling to the fact that you have prepared yourself and are ready for the right man (described by this sextile)
It seems he has been an image taking shape for you inside (the 2nd house) and ready to manifest outside (8th house) and become tangible again (manifesting of the Yod in the 1st/2nd), going deep and coming to the surface again; a person whose tangible shape is perfectly synchronized with the moment when you are ready for them. And Mercury often in such an angular position is an indication of right timing, synchronicity, a messenger of dreams/visions/mental images taking a real shape, Mercury as facilitator of events, and bridge between inner/outer worlds.

The release is in what is also your 6th and MC ruler, so although I see this as basically a love event, there is a connection between what you work and do and how you meet and interact with this person and also this Yod impacts your social life as a whole, and your public appearance, not just physical of course, but your whole person, and this presence of yours will become increasingly feminine and ripe, ready to bloom, IMO. I am seeing here the connection between Moon and Venus in the signs creating an axis of growth from axis to maturity and in the whole Yod I see the archetype of the Empress, brought to life because the image of the Emperor is already so round (Mars, DSC ruler, Juno and ASC), a saturnized Neptune so to speak (considering you were born with a very strong mental and soul print of this man, Neptune/Mars on ASC with Amor) and the Yod touches this for you on so many levels.

With the 8th house theme and Pluto and Osiris, is like emerging as oneself, being a ripe beautiful and juicy fruit.

What could happen?
I think the most interesting part is that it looks like meeting this man an important partner, considering that vx and angles superposition as well. My guess is that it should happen when Venus is on this Yod, on the Moon, which is app 5 august 2017. So fit for the Empress theme!

posted March 10, 2016 11:42 AM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

posted March 11, 2016 01:19 PM            

I see that Venus is VERY aspected in this specific Venus return, is conjunct Sun and North Node, and is at the base of a kite. The Yod is pointing to Chiron in the 5th.

here it is, for educational purposes

posted March 15, 2016 03:02 PM            

Of course it is much more than this it is Sun/NN/Venus/Jupiter and all the great stuff together.

What orb would you use for Return-charts? Within the charts I mean and in comparision to the natal.

And I see, one can fall in love even with 12th house.

posted March 15, 2016 03:10 PM            

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