posted March 29, 2016 05:05 PM            

My college boyfriend's Ceres-Jupiter-Juno conjunct my moon, more or less...

He was weirdly obsessed with me. I have never understood it and never will. I think nobody who knew him understood it, either.

posted March 29, 2016 05:10 PM            

But now I see the pattern repeating with D., similar issues, different person--and D. is purportedly much more sensitive but he's sensitive to his own feelings a titch more than mine--naturally... and between tearful apologies and super sweet evenings of laughter and connection he can be quite critical and judgmental. Not of me so much but things in general and of my daughter-which is soo hard to deal with as by extension i feel criticized. And domestic harmony is just hard to achieve in normal conditions but at least I'm more in control when it's just she and I... anyway...

We have to look at this in context--his Saturn-Mars opposition especially and my Saturn-Mars square play in to this tendency to be judgmental I believe...

posted March 29, 2016 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hmm why am I not passionately attracted to Pisces-Suns or Moons? With my Juno (and Jupiter) in Pisces?

(Faith, you are the exception of course. )

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*delayed reaction*

posted March 29, 2016 05:42 PM            

Yes, I adore Pisces-ASC`s, but I guess part of it is due to Aries being intercepted in 1st house. It`s just a very intriguing mix.

posted March 29, 2016 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Anyhow, I've been wondering if my Virgo Juno means I just have to put up with that aspect of things.. that critical side. I realize it's much more than that but it's something I must desire or attract.

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God that's freaky because I have been wondering the same thing.

Well I know Virgos are critical...

But my Virgo sun ex-soulmate almost never criticized me. That's the weirdest thing. And after we broke up, he dated a Virgo for a few years, and his main complaint against her was, she was too critical....

So I know non-critical Virgo men exist.

But then he was secretly, inwardly criticizing (or just understanding I wasn't "wife" material, for him) before he just pulled the plug and moved on. Still I do prefer that to having someone carp at me over little details, which makes me think the details are more important to them than I am.

posted March 29, 2016 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
You know, Faith?
I wanted to add that about the Pisces-ASC, but then I thought to myself: Why bother? I am going to let FAith point it out.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I adore Pisces-ASC`s, but I guess part of it is due to Aries being intercepted in 1st house. It`s just a very intriguing mix.

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posted March 29, 2016 06:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Non-marriage, too.

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Agreed

posted March 29, 2016 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
God that's freaky because I have been wondering the same thing.

Well I know Virgos are critical...

But my Virgo sun ex-soulmate almost never criticized me. That's the weirdest thing. And after we broke up, he dated a Virgo for a few years, and his main complaint against her was, she was too critical....

So I know non-critical Virgo men exist.

But then he was secretly, inwardly criticizing (or just understanding I wasn't "wife" material, for him) before he just pulled the plug and moved on. Still I do prefer that to having someone carp at me over little details, which makes me think the details are more important to them than I am.

Is your guy Virgo at all? Critical? He seemed like such a prince to me, when I was reading about him before.

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Lol ... a prince, yes... à la Myshkin--quite... some kind of angel struggling with earthly existence

He is a Virgo void... It is intercepted in his 4th house and on the cusp of his 5th which is in turn intercepted by Libra, where lonesome Pluto and my Venus reside.

5th house Virgo cusp may explain his criticism focusing on my daughter he is very playful in his fashion and/but takes music extremely seriously (Neptune on the South Node squares his Moon, lots of Taurus stuff going on).

The thing is that his Saturn/Pluto fall in his 6th house in Libra/Scorpio (opposing Mars and, widely, Mercury). He also has Jupiter/Uranus in his 6th house in Sag, but that's 4 degrees from his 7th house cusp.

All that gives a definite Virgoan... flair... if you will. Lol yeah. And it's beautiful. I'm into it. I love his 12th/6th house balance. He's not all work and no total dreamland. But he has a definite critical streak which I really think is largely pointed to by the Saturn/Mars opposition, in combination with the 6th house Saturn especially...

Some of his criticisms I quite like because he does have a quite pure, beautiful heart which shines out often... when he is relaxed and happy you know for sure everything is really truly ok. So i love making him smile...i
love when the softness gets a chance to just... be...

But people in the wider community are often afraid of saying/doing the wrong thing around him because he's so explicitly sensitive, so enormously socially awkward/totally present to the point of it being intense for others.

He has an aura of total commanding presence and exacting-ness in terms of his own conduct and behaviour which keeps others on their toes also--when he's highly strung that is.

He keeps his guard up because he had a very difficult childhood.. his father was less than reasonable.. and violent.. and with him so sensitive he has learned to defend himself and also takes zero crap. He can be vengeful too, has been since he was 5 at least... executing covert punishments against his babysitters who tortured his cat... that kind of thing.

I'm rambling now... it all ties in somehow.

posted March 29, 2016 08:57 PM            

He's a real good hearted person in a crazy world. He's very much an anarchist but sees underlying meaning inthings (Sag south node conjunct Neptune). He's so psychic.... Like a mystic anarchist Adonis biking around in the snow.

posted March 31, 2016 07:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Yeah I love those placements, too. Though I resent them sometimes as well, as in, How dare you have this power over me???

But that's just my icy Capricorn heart talking.

Best wishes with your husband...any chance it's just a transit though? I see you are sparking with a new colleague...does that just make your chemistry with your husband pale in comparison a bit?

Marriage can be such a kill-joy.

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Haha i love to be in control, but Virgo does it so much better than I do and i love and hate them for it at the same time

Unfortunately, my feelings toward my husband and my new work "thing" (who happens to be a Virgo Venus ) have nothing to do with each other. The timing may seem suspicious, but I was unhappy before I got married. For some silly reason I thought being his wife would make him treat me better, or at least differently. Alas, I was mistaken. Honestly, ALL of the people I work with act like they care more than he does. Not just my boss who I have the insane connection with. If I were to compare the way he treats me to ANY of the new 20ish people who are working below me, it's not looking too good on his end. I don't even have to compare... for instance:

I have a collapsed vertebrae in my back. It was shattered in one car accident at 18 and then collapsed in another accident at the age of 24.

Two days ago, I was in another car accident. My new crew could tell something was wrong. Every one of them offered extra help and "Oh no, what happened!?" My husband heard that I was in it, told a story about how he was almost in an accident in the same area and then completely changed the subject without even asking if I was okay...

And that is literally the very tip of a giant unhappy iceburg.

@ yungang, I didn't mean to derail, just wanted to explain. I feel like my feelings for this new person are being viewed improperly and it's not like what people are thinking at all

And not just you Faith, you are the last person I'm afraid of judging me It seems like people just take me wrong sometimes

posted March 31, 2016 07:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Huh? Do P & P both have Aries intercepted in the first?

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posted March 31, 2016 07:53 AM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Yes he's a Pig

He's a real good hearted person in a crazy world. He's very much an anarchist but sees underlying meaning inthings (Sag south node conjunct Neptune). He's so psychic.... Like a mystic anarchist Adonis biking around in the snow.

It is all gonna be ok

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Like my brother. Who also has Neptune conjunct SN.

posted March 31, 2016 07:56 AM            

I am sorry. Hope you are okay though.
And your husband sounds very insensitive.

As for intentions to get married... Well my uncle got married the first time around because his then gf wanted to wear a "white dress" and have a big party and because they thought it would help to smooth out their differences and save the relationship.
Surprisingly - hear the irony? - it didn`t. They got divorced 2 years later.

posted March 31, 2016 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Non-marriage, too.

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Yep, although I have worried about getting into an unhappy marriage - having things happen once it was legal. Maybe that's partly my Gemini Moon and Venus. I

My Juno is in Taurus, and I love Taureans - Sun, Moon, Venus, ascendant. I've had a lot of trouble from two, though - both men. I have a lot of female friends with Taurus Moons, and one of my best friends (from here) is a Taurus Sun. So is a Taurus Moon from here.

My dad is the best Taurus that I know, and my Juno is conjunct his Moon. He is really good to us, and I would be lucky to find someone like him.

Juno is in my 7th, square IC and MC by a few degrees, so it isn't exact.

posted March 31, 2016 11:00 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
This thread doesn't know whether it's coming or going.

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posted March 31, 2016 11:15 PM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
Unfortunately, my feelings toward my husband and my new work "thing" (who happens to be a Virgo Venus ) have nothing to do with each other. The timing may seem suspicious...

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Not really suspicious, it's just a natural thing that happens sometimes...you know sometimes we meet people who supply what we are lacking in our current relationship, and it puts a spotlight on that empty spot. And we think, "Damn, I hate that empty spot!!"...once we see it in that new light.

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Originally posted by LionFish:
....but I was unhappy before I got married. For some silly reason I thought being his [b]wife would make him treat me better, or at least differently. Alas, I was mistaken.[/B]

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Ohhhh... but you seemed happy before.

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Originally posted by LionFish:
Two days ago, I was in another car accident. My new crew could tell something was wrong. Every one of them offered extra help and "Oh no, what happened!?" My husband heard that I was in it, told a story about how he was almost in an accident in the same area and then completely changed the subject without even asking if I was okay...

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Are you okay?

Men are often like that....I know A LOT of men who are like this. I think it came up here before. It's some weird man thing. You can Google it..."Men who hate when their wives are sick"....something like that.

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Originally posted by LionFish:
And that is literally the very tip of a giant unhappy iceburg.

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Damn.

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Originally posted by LionFish:
And not just you Faith, you are the last person I'm afraid of judging me It seems like people just take me wrong sometimes

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Thank you Well what is there to judge?

Nobody wants to be in your position but most of us have been in the same position. Maybe we kid ourselves about how bad the bad parts are....or we think we can change it, and we're SO SURE we can...then the balance tips and we know we can't. Then we finally realize exactly what we're dealing with...an unworkable situation...which is SO different from a situation that seems workable! You know what I mean, we can overlook so much when we're hopeful. Those same things look very depressing when we're not.

I don't smoke but could use a cigarette tonight...everything is getting to me.

posted April 01, 2016 06:17 AM            

You know what Anne Ortelee wrote on her facebook-astro-blog about that timeframe you wrote that, Faith?

"Moon joins Pluto. Deep moment of interior work, thought, perhaps depression, but CHANGE nonetheless."

I think that is what is happening to many people right now, deep internal processing and changes, even though it cannot yet be grasped on a conscious level.
Maybe that explains your (and my) mood at the moment, too?

Well in my case my mood is also dampened because I know a hectic period is about to start on monday (job-wise and possibly otherwise), and I feel totally not prepared for it and procrastinate.

Also too many deaths lately. The father of a neighbour and former friend of mine died on Good-Friday, which was her birthday. Gosh, what a cruel strike of fate, to lose one of your parents on your birthday.
We are not really on talking terms anymore (well greeting-terms at least), but she really is being hit hard this year. Her mother passed away just a few months ago, her husband is diagnosed with a lethal form of Cancer and has to undergo severe treatment, but possibly the last one, as he can`t have anymore (for medical reasons).

And to be honest, and I hope I am just paranoid, but I am worried about Mr Sag, or to be more precise the baby that is due to be born any moment. I just have a strangely bad feeling. I hope it is just because the bad news are raining in from every side so I am extra-hypersensitive and paranoid at the moment.

Sorry for the ranting,b ut I just feel as if we are collectively in a transition period and it comes with some harsh experiences, unfortunately.

I also have the feeling right now we do not really see things clearly. Everything might seem darker OR rosier than it is in reality. As if we are still under the influence of the ecclipses, that put things under a magnifying glass, and I think it`s best we postpone any kind of grave decisions onto a later timeperiod.

posted April 01, 2016 11:31 AM            

I think I'm seeing more clearly than usual but, since I will lapse back into cloudiness soon, it's best not to make serious decisions now...since I may not be able to pull them off well. I can't bank on my mind lasting, and when my head is muddled, the rest of life follows suit.

Anyway...your neighbor

Isn't there a saying that goes something like, tragedy always strikes in 3's? Maybe because sucky transits have a lot of impact before they're over. Gosh, my life really sucked at certain phases and I can relate to what your neighbor is going through. Stress becomes the norm. I remember after my father died, I kept worrying about him. My brain had gotten into the pattern of cycling back to vague, half-formed thoughts about him every ten seconds or so...and I hadn't even noticed until he was gone and the thoughts just kept going.

My point is I didn't even realize how much stress there was until it was gone.

My father also died the day after my birthday. Actually I have a bittersweet memory of my brother leaning over my father, who may have been comatose (he was at home, no doctors to verfiy this) and saying, "It's 'Faith's' birthday Dad....Dad? It's her birthday." And I knew what he meant was, "Please hang on just a little longer and don't die today." And I've always felt pretty sure that that's exactly what my father did. Deliberately postponed. Not that I ever would have asked him for that...really it's not much difference, and I don't mind at all. It's actually interesting to me that the very first and the very last time I ever saw my father, it was my birthday.

I'll erase this later, way off topic.

I'll just pray for Mr Sag and his family, and for your work coming up...I don't know what else to do. I do believe the Mercury-Pluto square is putting a fatalistic shadow on things....my Sag son said to me last night, "I just can't figure out why I'm in such a dark mood." I said it was astrological and he stifled a laugh and walked out. hehehehe

posted April 01, 2016 12:53 PM            

No, you don't see what goes on in my mind, it's very clunky, the gears don't turn as fast as they should. Ceri fires out concepts and I'm like, "Can we go back to part one again? I don't follow...."

Meanwhile YOU pick it up very fast!

I'm glad you liked my story. Well my brother is a beautiful person...it was so sweet for him to do that. His sun is conjunct Neptune in Scorpio...but you rarely see him doing anything sentimental, because he's an Aqua moon with Sag Mercury. It's all jokes. You only know he really, really cares by certain actions, like that one.

Hope you're having a nice day.

posted April 01, 2016 01:10 PM            

"Meanwhile YOU pick it up very fast!"
I am not sure what you are talking about lol, but thank you very much! It seems that I don't pick it up so fast after all

"You only know he really, really cares by certain actions, like that one."

When something like that happens, it's even more sweet that the people who should notice it actually notice, I mean you, as his sister! It's really nice!

"Hope you're having a nice day."
Thank you! You, too!