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colorful butterfly
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posted September 05, 2016 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LullabyGal3:
Love? Marriage/commitment? Don’t think so! At least not for me :-(

My SR seems to indicate a commitment coming up but I can’t see this happening. My love life such as it was just took a massive nose dive again earlier this month. I had my birthday the other day. Love seems impossible and I am way too jaded to get back out there ever again after years of struggling in my last relationship.

If anything I am falling deeper into depression and SR Neptune in the 12th surely doesn’t help.

I have Venus conj Jupiter in my 7th SR sitting on Natal 5th in Virgo. In my natal 5th I have Sun, Merc, Venus, Pluto and Juno (trust me there’s never been anything in my love life to be envious of!). Nothing from SR Venus and Jupiter to SR Moon (3rd).

SR Venus 7th does semi square my natal Moon in the 7th. SR Moon in the 3rd squares natal Venus in the 5th.

SR Venus trine SR Pluto in the 10th Capricorn. SR Juno is in my 8th and conj natal Moon in the 7th. SR Juno semi squares SR Venus 7th.

My ex has SR Jupiter in his MC sitting on his DC, but only coming up in 4 months time. SR Moon in his 5th and SR Venus in his 2nd. SR Moon square his SR Venus and SR Venus semi square Jupiter 7th. He has serious commitment phobia issues. SR Sun, Merc and Pluto will all be in his 12th soon. Perhaps he will start to delve into his issues.

Jupiter has been transiting my 5th house but nearing its end now. Juno is currently transiting my 7th.

My ex and I both have Saturn transiting our 8th, Pluto our 9th, Neptune our 11th (his friends have been a major cause of our problems). His Uranus recently entered his 1st and mine will be there soon too.

I’m just putting this out there hoping for some feedback. I’m really going through a rough time and feeling hopeless.

Don't see SR Venus and Jupiter bring me any luck even though they are sitting in the SR 7th on my natal 5th.


I totally get you 100% Like I don't even want to care anymore!!! Sick and tired of being sick and tired, I have no one to blame but myself tho so I'm dealing with it!!! All it's been is the seriousness of relationships, arguments and frustrations. I can't have any fun because it's just not fun anymore, everything is so serious and it's too much headace!!! I can handle alot but this just takes too much out of me!!! Here lately it's like I have to tell a guy to date me, how to treat me and how to be with me. I know these things naturally occur but it's usually not a deal breaker. Obviously it's a problem and yea it's depressing but I don't exactly need a man to feel whole either so in a few days after feeling low I'll shake it off. Just leaves me doubting myself and who I am, my identity I guess. I know it's not worth it or true but the feeling is there. Thinking something is wrong with me when I know better.

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posted September 05, 2016 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Supposedly by the end of the month all this ughhh with relationships is supose to change. I felt at the beginning of the year like something BIG was coming into my life. You know how you have a maternal instinct, you can't explain it , it's just strong gut feeling. I still feel it which to me sounds unrealistic to say. So I met someone and I guess coming out of a saga it was like breathing fresh air , something I hadn't felt for a long time suddenly woke up inside me. I actually nicknamed him perfect because he swept me off my feet but dropped me on my assets. I don't expect to have a savior and I don't need to be saved. I told him about alot which was to just be honest about where I was at and where I had been so he would understand how to handle me. WITH CARE!!! Like all guys I know his mission is not to distroy me and things just dont work out for whatever reasons. That's fine but it just leaves me feeling drained, hurt and insecure I guess. I know itll pass but it's like trying to walk on blind faith that things will all of sudden change. How do believe in something when everything keeps saying forget about it. Marriage and love are just not in your deck of cards. The one just don't exist and if he does I feel so jaded as another wrote previously that I don't know if I have it in me to go threw it again. I want to open to love and romance, two hearts beating as one type thing but it's all about guys wanting me to be something that doesn't exisit in me. I'm not one to be done any type of way, spoken to any type of way. I have rules, boundaries and feelings. All that need to be respected and appreciated. Not taken forgrated and oh assumed to be someone that I am not!!! Mr. Perfect is now mission impossible. Forget it, I'd rather just do me and forget about love and all the romance because it feels like all I am doing is telling a man how to be a man. You date, be romantic, be nice, don't say that just because we broke up I'm sleeping with someone. The male ego smh!!! Maybe I'll go date someone else but just to go jump on someone, get a life man!!! Ughhhh!!! I told him I'm not like other chicks and I don't plan on it!!! I need an emotional connection to do so or else I just can't!! I'm not even remotely like that if I have standards with you obviously I value myself wheather a guys sees that or not is not my problem!! It's thiers!! I've been on 100 n some dates compaired to the actual number I have been with, you have better luck winning the lottery than landing me!!!

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posted September 06, 2016 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@colorful butterfly
You can post your natal chart and I could take a look in which SR you will have the configuration.

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LullabyGal3
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posted September 08, 2016 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LullabyGal3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@LullabyGal3
As far as I understood you have SR Moon square SR Venus-Jupiter conjunction (at least by sign), right? That's a good indicator for marriage in the current SR.
Check some progressions to the natal placements of your SO (angles, personal planets).

Hi HelixID,

My SR Venus and SR Jupiter are conj in SR 7, but no aspects to my SR or natal Moon.

Not seeing anything special in his progressed chart to his natal. His progressed Venus in the 9th is in my progressed AC. My progressed Venus in the 11th is in his progressed DC. Both our progressed Vertex is sitting in each others progressed AC.

I read some places that say Venus conj Jupiter could mean a reconciliation. It doesn't seem likely with my ex as he is super confused and commitment phobic. It can't be passed relationships either because I've only had 2 other relationships and one passed away along time ago and the other is settled with a family and we have no more contact for years even though we parted on very good terms (I don't want him back and I am sure that after 20 years the feeling is mutual!).

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posted September 08, 2016 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LullabyGal3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
How do believe in something when everything keeps saying forget about it. Marriage and love are just not in your deck of cards. The one just don't exist and if he does I feel so jaded as another wrote previously that I don't know if I have it in me to go threw it again.

Colourful butterfly, yes I hear you on all you have said.

I feel it is not in the stars and better to accept that I am meant to be alone. My natal chart is so doomed by Saturn it is depressing. Saturn is in my 2nd and quincunx my Moon in the 7th which reflects the hatred of my sperm donor and a general feeling of hostility from men that I have experience since childhood. I have Sun, Merc, Venus and Juno in my 5th. Party pooper Saturn squares them all.

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posted September 08, 2016 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LullabyGal3,

In your chart, which house does Saturn rule?

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posted September 08, 2016 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LullabyGal3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
LullabyGal3,

In your chart, which house does Saturn rule?


Hi CapriciousCapricorn,

It is in the 2nd Gemini (I do wear duel hats to earn an income!). H8 is in Scorpio with Jupiter conj Neptune. Vertex is there too - opposition by Saturn.

I definitely blame Saturn for a great deal. I feel that all the happy promises in my chart are screwed up by Saturn as it keeps me from holding onto anything good and creates obstacles in general. If other people want to be philosophical about Saturn and its lessons then they are welcome to it, but I have truly had enough of Saturn. :-(

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posted September 09, 2016 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LullabyGal3:
Hi CapriciousCapricorn,

It is in the 2nd Gemini (I do wear duel hats to earn an income!). H8 is in Scorpio with Jupiter conj Neptune. Vertex is there too - opposition by Saturn.

I definitely blame Saturn for a great deal. I feel that all the happy promises in my chart are screwed up by Saturn as it keeps me from holding onto anything good and creates obstacles in general. If other people want to be philosophical about Saturn and its lessons then they are welcome to it, but I have truly had enough of Saturn. :-(



No, wait. That's not how it works. I too have Saturn in 2H. And it also squares my 5H planets - Moon, Venus and Mars. BUT Saturn is the ruler of my 4H because Capricorn is on the cusp of 4H. So I expect difficulties in the area of pregnancy, childbirth, childbearing etc (4H - birth, 5H - children, Moon - significator of 4H, Venus - significator of 1H and other stuff). Of course in love I have my issues, the Saturn squares make me cold and not as open, warm and loving as one would like to be but it's not a bolt in the coffin when it comes to love department. I'm actually ok there. So have a closer look at your Saturn. Or maybe post your chart. I can have a look if you want.

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posted September 09, 2016 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LullabyGal3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:

No, wait. That's not how it works. I too have Saturn in 2H. And it also squares my 5H planets - Moon, Venus and Mars. BUT Saturn is the ruler of my 4H because Capricorn is on the cusp of 4H. So I expect difficulties in the area of pregnancy, childbirth, childbearing etc (4H - birth, 5H - children, Moon - significator of 4H, Venus - significator of 1H and other stuff). Of course in love I have my issues, the Saturn squares make me cold and not as open, warm and loving as one would like to be but it's not a bolt in the coffin when it comes to love department. I'm actually ok there. So have a closer look at your Saturn. Or maybe post your chart. I can have a look if you want.

Thank you, CapriciousCapricorn. That will teach me not to post at 1 in the morning when I am already seeing double.

I will post my chart when I get home later. I believe it is the ruler of my 9th. Will check again when I get back. (Aries asc so my houses and signs line up)

I worry about Saturn H2 quincunx 7h Moon more than what it is doing in my 5th house. It blocks me creatively in the 5th which is more worrisome than the part about making me romantically slow to warm to someone. As for the Saturn Moon quincunx, I feel this messes with my personal relationships.

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posted December 01, 2017 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping this thread with a new example

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are getting married in May 2018.
Meghan has Moon opposite Venus in her SR 2017 with Jupiter squaring them both by sign.

I like my theory more and more.

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