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Topic: Moon - Venus - Jupiter in the Solar Return - Marriage?
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HelixID Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted April 02, 2016 03:51 AM
I have checked the solar return of dozens of women for the year they got married. The combination of interaspects with Moon, Venus and Jupiter has popped up every time! These three planets sometimes form a T-Square, sometimes a Grand Trine, or two of them are conjunct and oppose the third but they are always connected in one way or the other.Has anyone noticed this? Do you have similar examples?
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posted April 02, 2016 03:56 AM
Well my mom did not have this, Moon 15 Scorpio Venus 19 Sag Jupiter 3 AquaInterestingly however her Venus was on the Sun/Jupiter-mp As for my friend
She was having Moon opposite Venus, but not connected to Jupiter IP: Logged |
HelixID Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted April 02, 2016 04:07 AM
One of my best firends is getting married this year and I looked at her SR for this year (her birthday was few days ago)and she has a T-Square. Maybe I should look at some celebrities and their SR for the year they got married to see whether it keeps popping up. But then again, so many of them marry more than once... IP: Logged |
HelixID Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted April 02, 2016 04:16 AM
I just looked at the SR of Eva Longoria for 2002 and 2007 (the years she got married). 2002 she had Moon-Venus conjunction square Jupiter. 2007 Venus trined Jupiter and squared Moon in the SR but no aspect between Moon and Jupiter.IP: Logged |
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posted April 02, 2016 05:13 AM
What are the orbs you use?IP: Logged |
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posted April 02, 2016 05:22 AM
BTW this is funny but I have in my SR this year Moon on IC opposite Jupiter 2°10 Moon trine Venus 4°56 (Venus sextile Jupiter 7°06 probably too wide)
(Moon opposes the Jupiter/MCmp under 30minutes) oh and Sun makes a widish T-square with the Moon-Jupiter-opposition, which is pretty much in between MC and NN.
MC 17°15 Virgo Jupiter 22°32 Virgo NN 26°21 Virgo
Moon 20°22 Pisces Sun 25°56 Sag (well I don´t see myself getting married this year, and the Jupiter-Venus-sextile would probably be too wide anyway, but nevertheless I found this planetary alignment interesting, also because the SR Moon-IC is conjunct my n Juno, and the SR Venus squares my nMoon, but occupies the missing leg of a Grand trine with my Saturn on 16°57 Cancer and Juno on 16°58 Pisces)
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outofideas Knowflake Posts: 480 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted April 02, 2016 05:56 AM
For my next year's SR i have:Jupiter and Moon in the 10th house in Libra, not conjunct though. Jupiter trines Venus in the 2nd house in Aqua. Should i be worried?
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HelixID Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted April 02, 2016 06:19 AM
I usually use an 8° orb. The friend has all the aspects within 6° with her T-Square. She has Jupiter 15°39' Virgo, Moon 19°30' Sagittarius, Venus 21°35' Pisces. But I don't care about orbs that much, I have seen this patterns with wider orbs and it worked. I do care about signs though, I disregard out of sign aspects always, no matter what I analyze, even if it's just 1°. You can see in the Eva Longoria example that her Moon-Venus conjunction was relatively wide in 2002, about 7°. But both were in Aries, that's good enough for me. I wouldn't rule out marriage in this SR year in your case, you never know.
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Lumi0 Knowflake Posts: 114 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 19, 2016 01:38 PM
I came across this topic googling around for the Moon/Venus opposition in the Solar Return and though I don't have any aspects between Venus & Jupiter in this years SR, I do have both the Moon & Uranus opposite my Venus and Jupiter is conjunct the Sun. Going to be interesting to see how this turns out, since my birthday will be in a few months. SR vertex is also conjunct natal vertex in the 5th. It will be hilarious if I do end up editing this later saying I did get married! -edit 23.7- Checked my sisters SR and she didn't have any of the mentioned connections. Since she got married a month before her SR, I checked both charts. What she did have was (in the previous one) Moon conjunct Sun opposite Saturn in the 5th and in the second one (a month after her wedding), Sun conjunct Venus 5° in the 9th house. IP: Logged |
mollywu Knowflake Posts: 459 From: Chengdu, China Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 19, 2016 11:59 PM
I got married in paper three weeks ago. In my SR chart, Venus conjunct Jupiter exactly and conjunct Mercury about 1 degree. Neither of them contacts Moon. IP: Logged |
HelixID Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 21, 2016 08:48 PM
One of my friends is getting married next year, she has Moon conjunct Venus in her SR, no aspect to Jupiter but Jupiter is conjunct Sun.I plan to do at least 100 couples, to see how often this comes up. I would really like to see, if you guys had these aspects in your SR when you got married. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 22, 2016 04:14 AM
Thanks for doing that research and sharing, so awesome. I don't know about for men.. But next year the guy I like (well I'm seeing him but want to switch up how I refer to him here) will have Moon conjunct Jupiter in his SR, 1.5 degrees, conjunct my natal Venus, opposite his Sun and square SR Pluto~Vertex~Juno, for what that's worth.. Also the SR POF is on our composite Moon and the angles are exactly the same as our composite angles, bizarrely enough. Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct Vertex, more widely Pluto (1 degree) and Juno (2.5, too much I guess butt because it's in that stellium I'm flexible), and sesquisquare SR North Node tight... And then my SR next year has the Node conjunct our composite Moon-Vertex stellium thing. It also will have Venus conjunct Jupiter 0'15 degrees, which is conjunct the SR ascendant by 5 degrees (from the 12th house), also conjunct his natal vertex by 1-3 degrees (depending on which birth time is right for him), and my own ascendant by 5 degrees... so it's at the midpoint of SR ascendant and my ascendant. Trippy... It's also semisquare the moon in the SR chart, that Venus-Jupiter, by 2 degrees though... The Sun/Moon midpoint of my SR just semisquares Eros as far as I can see right now. I'm guessing that would be an indicator too, an activated Sun Moon midpoint, if we're looking at deeply felt merging, that deeply felt need for inner recognition and spiritual union being met through marriage If we make it to November of next year together I wouldn't be surprised if we made some sort of deepening commitment related vows kind of soon thereafter... that would mark 2 years together... with all that has happened so far and knowing us.. But then I can't say for sure... and I doubt it will take the form of a formal engagement IP: Logged |
HelixID Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 30, 2016 02:58 AM
@yungang_grottoI haven't looked that much at the SR of men. But I have looked at a lot of female SR and I just can't ignore it, haha. Ana Ivanovic (tennis player)just got married to Bastian Schweinsteiger (soccer player). It was a big deal in Europe and all the tabloids reported about it. I just looked at her chart. I don't have her t.o.b. but with a noon chart for Nov 6 2015 you see the following: Moon, Jupiter, Venus and Mars all conjunct in Virgo. And in a way the Moon-Venus-Jupiter thing just makes sense. Venus stands for love, Moon for home and family and Jupiter for legal matters among other things. So you have someone who you love (Venus) and want to start a family and build a home with (Moon) and in the end you finalize this commitment on paper by having a wedding ceremony (Jupiter). IP: Logged |
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posted July 30, 2016 02:27 PM
Well next year Solar return for me has Moon on 12 Leo opposing Venus on 11 Aquarius Jupiter is on 19 Libra in 7th house (opposing Uranus on 20 Aries).
Orbs may be a tad wide but Venus trine Jupiter (8 degrees) and Moon sextile Jupiter (7 degrees). Saturn and Juno are on the MC (2 and 3 degrees). Saturn sextiles Jupiter exact Saturn sextiles Venus (8 degrees - yes okay ridiculous large orb I am reaching!) Saturn trines Moon (7 degrees)
Juno sextile Jupiter (5 degrees) Juno sextile Venus (3 degrees) Juno trine Moon (2 degrees) Yeah, maybe not that convincing, but found that looked interesting nevertheless oh and one of the tightest midpoints next year
Jupiter conjunct Sun/Moon 0°04 (Jupiter square Sun/Venus 0°44) IP: Logged |
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posted July 30, 2016 02:36 PM
LEt me look at other charts again (cause yes the planetary symbolism does make sense). I think in my Mom`s Solar return it really was the Sun-Jupiter-square, which was the MOST exact aspect (2 minutes of orb), with Venus on its midpoint (1°14)
Especially since her Sun is opposite my Dad`s Moon; her SR Jupiter was falling onto his natal Sun with 2 degree orb - and conjunct HIS SR Venus-DESC exactly
Plus her SR Venus on 19 Sagittarius was conjunct his SR Vertex on 20 Sag and BOTH were conjunct composite Sun on 9 Sagittarius! So there WAS an interesting interconnection with emphasizing Sun, Venus, Jupiter for her, hooking into my Dad`s natal Sun-Moon and SR Venus-DESC, looking like the love marriage it is. Did you notice that, too, Helix? STrong overlays to the marriage-partner`s natal (or possibly even Solar Return)? EDIT Personally I would add Sun to the possible suspects as well, as it is the focus of any chart and its essence or energy or whatever. I guess for a love marriage Venus will be a MUST, too, and for a happy love marriage we will find Venus-Jupiter, unafflicted, Moon making for the emotional bonding of course.
EDIT 2 I did not want to say Sun MUST be in there, but it seems almost like in some cases it substitutes Moon? As with my Mom? Or was Moon provided by my Dad?
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posted July 30, 2016 02:58 PM
My best friend had when she marriedSun conjunct MC conjunct Venus with Moon on the IC opposing Venus, Venus 24 Virgo MC 20 Virgo Sun 18 Virgo (Merucry 17 Virgo) Moon 28 Pisces Jupiter was not aspecting directly (3 degree Virgo) that year she had a Taurus-DESC on 25 Taurus, with Venus ending up on the MC, so relationships becoming prominent and part of her social status, this might have been indicative too, oh and of course the NN conjunct DESC.
Her husband`s Juno is on 19 Virgo, conjunct her Sun. Well that is true for every year but in the year of their marriage this Juno had been brought to her SR MC, and therefore made foreground! well his SR Jupiter was on 18 Virgo, so he was having SR Jupiter on his n Juno, which was overlaying her Sun-MC - just a random observation his SR MC on 00 Virgo was interestingly enough her SR Jupiter on 03 Virgo, which had been isolated from her Sun-Venus-MC-Mercury-Moon-constellation
it was square his SR Moon on 4 Gemini and his n Venus on 3 Sagittarius and opposing HER n Jupiter on 1 Gemini.
So it seems that Moon-Venus-Jupiter sometimes also happens cross-chartwise, synastrically and from Solar Return to natal as well.
Maybe the net is too wide, and I consider too many options, but this sure is interesting.
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HelixID Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 31, 2016 09:57 AM
CeriI don't look at the orbs that much, up to an orb of 10 it's good enough, if you ask me. Aspect by sign is usually sufficient. Your SR is perfectly "valid" as far as I am concerned. You can update us on your SR and the marriage prospects, that would be cool. My SR this October has Moon Jupiter and Sun in Libra conjunct the SR Asc. My angles are reversed this year, SR Asc conjunct natal Dsc, orb 9. SR Venus in Scorpio opposes my natal Moon and squares my natal Jupiter. I'll let you know how that goes. This midpoint thing is also something I became more aware of because of you, haha. I have checked important midpoints in some event composites. It's really crazy sometimes. I don't pay attention to them as you do but I should. With me it's more that I just see something more prominent time after time and than I make conclusions right away. I have checked my mother and sister's SR the years they got married. My mother had a Moon-Venus-Jupiter t-square. The Jupiter-Moon opposition overlaid her Asc-Dsc axis, SR Moon was conjunct her natal DSC exact. My sister had a grand trine. Her SR Asc was in Aqua, her husband is an Aquarius. Her SR DSC was conjunct her Sun. I have only paid attention to this Moon-Venus-Jupiter configuration, it's simpler but it's a good idea to compare cross-chart.
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HelixID Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 15, 2016 07:24 AM
Lady Gaga has Venus opposite Jupiter in this year's SR. Her SR Moon is in late Scorpio. Had it been in Sagittarius, a t-square would have formed with Venus and Jupiter. Interestingly, she had been engaged to Taylor Kinney but they broke up this year. Next year's SR has her Moon, Venus and Sun in Aries opposite Jupiter in Libra though only by sign in the case of Venus and Sun. There have been rumors of them getting back together so let's see how this unfolds. IP: Logged |
LullabyGal3 Newflake Posts: 16 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted August 31, 2016 02:22 PM
Love? Marriage/commitment? Don’t think so! At least not for me :-(My SR seems to indicate a commitment coming up but I can’t see this happening. My love life such as it was just took a massive nose dive again earlier this month. I had my birthday the other day. Love seems impossible and I am way too jaded to get back out there ever again after years of struggling in my last relationship. If anything I am falling deeper into depression and SR Neptune in the 12th surely doesn’t help. I have Venus conj Jupiter in my 7th SR sitting on Natal 5th in Virgo. In my natal 5th I have Sun, Merc, Venus, Pluto and Juno (trust me there’s never been anything in my love life to be envious of!). Nothing from SR Venus and Jupiter to SR Moon (3rd). SR Venus 7th does semi square my natal Moon in the 7th. SR Moon in the 3rd squares natal Venus in the 5th. SR Venus trine SR Pluto in the 10th Capricorn. SR Juno is in my 8th and conj natal Moon in the 7th. SR Juno semi squares SR Venus 7th. My ex has SR Jupiter in his MC sitting on his DC, but only coming up in 4 months time. SR Moon in his 5th and SR Venus in his 2nd. SR Moon square his SR Venus and SR Venus semi square Jupiter 7th. He has serious commitment phobia issues. SR Sun, Merc and Pluto will all be in his 12th soon. Perhaps he will start to delve into his issues. Jupiter has been transiting my 5th house but nearing its end now. Juno is currently transiting my 7th. My ex and I both have Saturn transiting our 8th, Pluto our 9th, Neptune our 11th (his friends have been a major cause of our problems). His Uranus recently entered his 1st and mine will be there soon too. I’m just putting this out there hoping for some feedback. I’m really going through a rough time and feeling hopeless. Don't see SR Venus and Jupiter bring me any luck even though they are sitting in the SR 7th on my natal 5th.
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 965 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 31, 2016 03:54 PM
My girlfriend is getting married in 10 days and has her Venus-Sun-Moon stellium square Jupiter, oppose Saturn (making a T-square). Saturn falls almost right on her DSC. So the T-square hits the 1st (stellium), 5th (Jupiter) and 7th (Saturn).Interesting. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 1452 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted August 31, 2016 04:28 PM
I'm sorry, no I'm not married and there isn't anyone but does this look like marriage solar?The reason I'm posting it here is because you are saying Moon Venus Jupiter - sounds like the theme is emotional happiness. But wouldn't Saturn be prominent in the year you get married? After all, Saturn is commitment. In this chart below Venus in 7H trines Jupiter on IC and sextiles Saturn in 5H, Saturn sextiles Jupiter. I cannot say anything good about Moon but it's in 5H. What do you we want to see from Moon in the marriage year? IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 1452 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted August 31, 2016 04:35 PM
Oh I'm making up stories in my head already ))) Jupiter opposite Uranus - sudden marriage! hehe Mars in 8H, Moon in 5H - knocked up. Bloody hell..) IP: Logged |
LullabyGal3 Newflake Posts: 16 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted August 31, 2016 05:51 PM
Even with progressed Venus in my 7th and towards the end of Libra I still don't see any hope or signs of a committed relationship (doesn't need to be marriage for me). Progressed Juno in my 5th. Progressed Venus is conj natal Moon in the 7th. All this stuff combined with what I mentioned in my previous post yet I don't see anything happening. These positions, aspects, etc., can actually just make a person more lonely for a real relationship and not necessarily promise one. Sad but true. IP: Logged |
HelixID Knowflake Posts: 223 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted September 04, 2016 12:44 AM
@LullabyGal3 As far as I understood you have SR Moon square SR Venus-Jupiter conjunction (at least by sign), right? That's a good indicator for marriage in the current SR. Check some progressions to the natal placements of your SO (angles, personal planets).@margym0o That's pretty cool. Do you have more examples in your family and friends? @CapriciousCapricorn There is obviously a tight trine between your SR Venus and SR Jupiter and they sextile your SR Moon by sign. The Moon progresses around 13 degrees in a year, so by the end of this SR your progressed SR Moon will conjunct the SR Venus/Jupiter midpoint and SR Saturn, that might be interesting. I also checked some male SR for the year they got married and Moon-Mars contacts are frequent.
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CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 1452 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted September 04, 2016 06:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by HelixID:
@CapriciousCapricornThe Moon progresses around 13 degrees in a year, so by the end of this SR your progressed SR Moon will conjunct the SR Venus/Jupiter midpoint and SR Saturn, that might be interesting.
Thank you for pointing that out. Riiight! We shall see IP: Logged |