posted April 26, 2016 04:41 AM            

Have a read and tell me what you think.

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Is It One-Way-Love Or Reciprocated Love?
How Astrology Helps You To Find Out!

One way love is unreciprocated love that you want to avoid before you burn out needlessly, reaching devastating levels of heartbreak and self-destruction.

Astrology can help to find out in a snap if you might experience unrequited love with someone else.

In doing a chart comparison between two people it's always best to focus on the standouts to find the essence of the relationship.

Many times clients ask and wonder: is this love, is it just friendship or sympathy or is it lust...

Astrology can tell you.

One of the most important factors in a chart comparison, among others, is the analysis of the planets and bodies that conjunct the angles (Ascendant, MC, Descendant and IC) in the natal chart of the other person.

This is one of the best indications of attraction between two people and this should never be neglected when you compare two charts for mutual attraction.

The analysis of the planets and bodies that conjunct the angles of the other person (orb 6° but the closer the orb the better) describes whom you are attracted to and vice versa.

To a lesser extent, the other aspects (squares, and especially sextiles or trines) can be important too ON CONDITION that they are exact. In this article we will only focus on the most important aspect of all: the conjunction.

The rule goes as follows: the person whose angles are conjunct a planet or body in the natal chart of the other person, is in love or feels highly attracted to the other person.

The more the conjunction is exact (0°00' - 0°01'), the more powerful and irresistible attraction and overwhelming love becomes.

While an orb of 6° still works, we do prefer smaller orbs and much more prefer an orb of 3°. The reason is that a wider orb may be overruled by other exact aspects and/or midpoints. FYI: exact midpoints between two persons always overrule the aspects!

If you read the articles published on our web site, you will know how much we pay attention to very very small orbs and exact aspects! This works and will keep you to the very basics and standouts too.

Example: when the MC of person A is conjunct Venus of person B, then person A is in love with person B. B will only be in love with person A (reciprocal love) if his/her angles too are conjunct a planet or body of person A.

So, if in the chart comparison you only find that planets of one person aspect an angle in the natal chart of the other person, than you do know that there is just one way love or unrequited and unreciprocated love!

If in the chart comparison, we find that planets of a person conjunct an angle of the other person AND a planet of the other person conjuncts an angle of the 1st person, then we know there is reciprocated or shared love.

The most important bodies to conjunct an angle in the natal chart of another person are the Moon and Venus. Both bodies bring real love to the foreground.

The Moon points to a comfort zone, something that is familiar and is related to the one you un- and subconsciously turn to.

Venus denotes adorable love. It cannot get better than this. If you have Venus conjunct an angle in the chart of the other person, this is the purest love possible.

Aside from the Moon and Venus, any other planet or body (the Sun, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto) can conjunct the other's angles too, which is also good an indication of attraction.

Neptune brings devotion and longings.

Mars is related to physical attraction but may also result in physical violence if other configurations point to it.

Jupiter brings tolerance in some way.

Mercury is related to mental stimuli and insight.

The Moon's Nodes are highly important too and can bring kind of a fated attraction.
Also, when the angles of one partner conjunct the angles of the other person, you may be magnetically and irresistably attracted to each other.

In our research, we found this combination in numerous instances between married people, especially when one of the angles is exactly conjunct one of the other person's angles.

Almost always, in an almost infallible way, people whose angles (all 4 angles) coincide and thus are exact, are destined to marry. The love relationship will last forever too (there will be no divorce that is).
Do know that, when there is one way love, the "planet person" may just feel sympathy for the "angle person" (and not love) and may (easily) quit the relationship for another person/lover.

Mind though that attraction as such has nothing to do with endurability or lasting love. It's not because a planet of the other person conjuncts one of your angles and vice versa, that you will build a lasting love union.

A planet conjunct an angle is just a very strong and powerful indication of attraction and when the Moon or Venus are involved, there is love from one side (one way love).

Also, the "angle person" is the most vulnerable one, because his/her feelings of love are triggered. This may result in unrequited love and lover's burnout, denoting that the "angle person" does EVERYTHING to satisfy the (needs of the) "planet person." No need to say that this drains the own energy field.

If love is not reciprocated, the "angle person" may hopelessly chase a fata morgana, fill a bottomless bottle.

Though there may be sympathy from the "planet person", consider that sympathy is NOT love and the feelings are not of the same kind, intensity and "frequency"!

This way, there is no balance between two people resulting in love to become a very painful and even destructive experience for the "angle person."

There is nothing more painful than love that is not returned, not reciprocated and it's best to advice the "angle person" to do everything possible to let the "planet person" go.

There is no need to chase something one cannot obtain.

There is no way to force fate because that's just going against the flow of life and higher energy fields we cannot change or overpower. We all must learn to go with the flow and not go against it. It's senseless to burn ourselves out and make our own life a misery.

You may ask, how can this all be clarified?

Our theory (!) is that the angles (and house cusps) are sensitive points that receive or suck energies while planets and bodies radiate or send energies.

If radiating energies from the "planet person" are received by the "angle person", it triggers a charge or a vibe. This sending-receiving combo acts like a totally irresistible magnetic North-South pole attraction.

When the receiving angles coincide, this may result in sucking energies which result in a vacuum that glues two people together.

Planetary combinations (conjunctions and aspects) are a lower kind of polarized combinations, resulting in minor attractions. That's why we assume that planetary inter-aspects are less important than planet-angle combinations and inter-aspects.

Here too Nature seems to be based on a hierarchy (in order of importance, the most important and powerful combo above):
1. coinciding angles
2. coinciding angles and bodies
3. coinciding bodies/planets

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posted April 26, 2016 04:42 AM            

For one they reference angle conjunctions as the big movers and shackers in attraction, however I think the Vertex Axis should be included as an ‘angle’ in synastry, same thing with the East Point/West Point Axis. I’ve seen these two ‘angles’ really do things in synastry!

Secondly, I also think an angle conjunctions alone are not enough for a full attraction to develop. The partner also needs to match our inner profile (attraction pattern) for what qualities we are looking for in a partner. In my experience the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, plus the gender planets, tell us about this. If someone has Venus conjunct our Mc we may admire them, but if the rest of the chart does not match our profile isn’t it unlikely we’ll totally fall for them as this article claims?

Thirdly, what about rulers!! Maybe our partner doesn’t have anything conjunct our angles but they have Jupiter conjunct our Asc ruler exact. This is bound to be significant. I know from experience that aspects to my 7th house ruler really attract me. Not just conjunctions either… I seem to have an affinity for trines and sextiles to my Dsc ruler as well.

On the positive side, yes I think there is something extra magnetic about Angle connections. They create fascination, and seem to ground the connection in reality somehow.

Also, this part of the theory has given me food for thought…

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Our theory (!) is that the angles (and house cusps) are sensitive points that receive or suck energies while planets and bodies radiate or send energies.

If radiating energies from the "planet person" are received by the "angle person", it triggers a charge or a vibe. This sending-receiving combo acts like a totally irresistible magnetic North-South pole attraction.

When the receiving angles coincide, this may result in sucking energies which result in a vacuum that glues two people together.

Planetary combinations (conjunctions and aspects) are a lower kind of polarized combinations, resulting in minor attractions. That's why we assume that planetary inter-aspects are less important than planet-angle combinations and inter-aspects.

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My thoughts are that if the Angles are sucking energies, and so are the house cusps, then maybe there is also something extra magnetic about somebody putting planets on any house cusp. Perhaps not as much as on the Asc/Dsc, Mc/Ic, Vertex/Antivertex, East Point/West Point, but still theoretically there’d be a fascinating pull of some kind. What about Venus conjunct our 3rd house cusp in synastry… Mental fascination with the other person’s beauty/relating skills.

My thoughts are that this sucking type of energy (from house cusps) also extends though the house rulers in connection with the theme of that house. So our Dsc ruler would be where we ‘suck’ for relationship energy, and if someone puts a ‘radiant’ planet right on our Dsc ruler, then this could create that ‘sending-receiving’ magnetic attraction thing the article goes on about.

posted April 26, 2016 06:54 AM            

interesting. i will need to check.. but of the top of my head, my crush, my moon conjunct his AC and although he felt crazily for me, it lasted little. then i became the one in love with him only feeling something including intense lust...

he does not touch my angles, so i could explain that he was the one attracted initially, but as the relationship developed, having the planets in the right houses still it is important. when i compare his synastry with a woman he is in love now, she doe not put anything on angles, but her mars fall iin 5h, and his pluto square all her planets...

posted April 26, 2016 07:54 AM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
My question is firstly what about Nodes on cusps? Does the "cusp" person feel that, too? Since it isn't a planet? The same goes for cusps on cusps, for instance his 8th house cusp conjuncts my 12th house cusp. Is this significant, too? Or we always need a planet to feel that?

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According to the theory above angles, and house cusps have a sucking/receiving energy, while planets have a radiant/sending energy.

Since angles and house cusps are not physical, I guess it would make sense that other non-physical points also have a sucking energy rather then a radiant energy. That means the Nodes, the Vertex Axis, East Point/West Point axis, and so on, would also likely fall into the sucking/receiving category.

The theory above also mentions that when two sucking energies are conjunct they create a vacuum together, sticking to each other like glue. The two people then become 'stuck on each other' so to speak. According to the theory, an Asc/Mc conjunction is even more important then an interplanetary conjunction for this reason.

Personally, I'm not sure I buy that. But I can see how non-physical points being conjunct could work as a sort of vacuum that holds people together. So if we had the Nodal Axis of one person conjunct the Vertex Axis of another, theoretically, this would work like a kind of glue between two people.

It would be similar for house cusps. Lets say your 11th/5th house Axis were conjunct another person's 2nd house/8th house Axis... Then your need to give (5th house) and receive (11th house) attention, would somehow be glued to their sense of self worth (2nd house) and intimacy needs (8th house). If their 2nd house cusp were conjunct your 11th house cusp, perhaps your friendly way of receiving other would boost their sense self value in some way.

posted April 26, 2016 08:12 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
hum,

interesting. i will need to check.. but of the top of my head, my crush, my moon conjunct his AC and although he felt crazily for me, it lasted little. then i became the one in love with him only feeling something including intense lust...

he does not touch my angles, so i could explain that he was the one attracted initially, but as the relationship developed, having the planets in the right houses still it is important. when i compare his synastry with a woman he is in love now, she doe not put anything on angles, but her mars fall iin 5h, and his pluto square all her planets...

his 7th ruler conjunct my node, but he does not have my plannets (other than 1st house) in 5 or 7 (other than neptune, but it is geneational) while this woman put planets in his 5 and 7.. so.. angle activation? hum... not sure about it

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I think you're right, I too noticed the 5th, 7th, 8th house stuff as more crucial in attractions then angle conjunctions.

posted April 26, 2016 08:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
According to the theory above angles, and house cusps have a sucking/receiving energy, while planets have a radiant/sending energy.

Since angles and house cusps are not physical, I guess it would make sense that other non-physical points also have a sucking energy rather then a radiant energy. That means the Nodes, the Vertex Axis, East Point/West Point axis, and so on, would also likely fall into the sucking/receiving category.

The theory above also mentions that when two sucking energies are conjunct they create a vacuum together, sticking to each other like glue. The two people then become 'stuck on each other' so to speak. According to the theory, an Asc/Mc conjunction is even more important then an interplanetary conjunction for this reason.

Personally, I'm not sure I buy that. But I can see how non-physical points being conjunct could work as a sort of vacuum that holds people together. So if we had the Nodal Axis of one person conjunct the Vertex Axis of another, theoretically, this would work like a kind of glue between two people.

It would be similar for house cusps. Lets say your 11th/5th house Axis were conjunct another person's 2nd house/8th house Axis... Then your need to give (5th house) and receive (11th house) attention, would somehow be glued to their sense of self worth (2nd house) and intimacy needs (8th house). If their 2nd house cusp were conjunct your 11th house cusp, perhaps your friendly way of receiving other would boost their sense self value in some way.

With the 8th house/12th house connection, your need to escape the pressures of the world from time to time is merged with his need for privacy within the relationship. When he's in the mood to connect for you it can feel like a place to escape to (and I'm not just talking about the physical stuff, the 8th house is about the emotional sanctity of the relationship as well).

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posted April 26, 2016 09:19 AM            

"owever I think the Vertex Axis should be included as an ‘angle’ in synastry, same thing with the East Point/West Point Axis. "
Definitely about the Vertex-axis, Possibly too with the EP/WP-axis (still researching).
and I would add the nodal axis to this even though it is a little different.

Anyway there is a difference to the main angles, as the ASC and MC determine the housesystem, while Vertex and EP axis are more "free floating". But of course that depends on the house system we use! Hey maybe we could even make the Vertex a starting point for some housesystem, but only in relation to the Vertex-symbolism (and obviously this would have to be an equal houses system - of course it is not a real housesystem like per definition, but would relate any planet/ house back to the Vertex. I guess it would be interesting, though maybe it is just playing around. lol)

"The partner also needs to match our inner profile (attraction pattern) for what qualities we are looking for in a partner. "
Agreed.

"his is bound to be significant. I know from experience that aspects to my 7th house ruler really attract me."
Yes. Ruler aspects are important.

" They create fascination, and seem to ground the connection in reality somehow."
Yes.

"My thoughts are that if the Angles are sucking energies, and so are the house cusps, then maybe there is also something extra magnetic about somebody putting planets on any house cusp."
Actually I`ve already started to consider that quite strongly, even though I may not have yet verbalized it. But Yes, personally I feel that it is very magnetic/ electric that I have my Uranus exact on the cusp of 11th house, and I am sure it was not a coincidence, my pr Moon was conjunct my 5th house cusp when I first met Mr Sag (and my pr Sun was square, while actually conjunct our composite ASC).

It is more energetic as if the planet was just sitting somewhere within the house, because the housecusps are sensitive degrees as are the angles themselves, however in terms of the other housecusps I would not allow an orb greater than 1° or 1°30, while of course the orb for the main angles is larger.

"but still theoretically there’d be a fascinating pull of some kind."
In relation to what the housecusp symbolizes. Yes.

"My thoughts are that this sucking type of energy (from house cusps) also extends though the house rulers in connection with the theme of that house."
No, this is where I do not agree entirely. While the houserulers are those that transport the symbolism of the houses to other areas in the chart and therefore become the "messengers" for a particular house, they are not magnetic like a cusp itself. It`s the difference between a calculated point and an actual planet.

However of course house rulers in aspect are very important for attraction and connection.

posted April 26, 2016 09:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
According to the theory above angles, and house cusps have a sucking/receiving energy, while planets have a radiant/sending energy.

Since angles and house cusps are not physical, I guess it would make sense that other non-physical points also have a sucking energy rather then a radiant energy. That means the Nodes, the Vertex Axis, East Point/West Point axis, and so on, would also likely fall into the sucking/receiving category.

The theory above also mentions that when two sucking energies are conjunct they create a vacuum together, sticking to each other like glue. The two people then become 'stuck on each other' so to speak. According to the theory, an Asc/Mc conjunction is even more important then an interplanetary conjunction for this reason.

Personally, I'm not sure I buy that. But I can see how non-physical points being conjunct could work as a sort of vacuum that holds people together. So if we had the Nodal Axis of one person conjunct the Vertex Axis of another, theoretically, this would work like a kind of glue between two people.

It would be similar for house cusps. Lets say your 11th/5th house Axis were conjunct another person's 2nd house/8th house Axis... Then your need to give (5th house) and receive (11th house) attention, would somehow be glued to their sense of self worth (2nd house) and intimacy needs (8th house). If their 2nd house cusp were conjunct your 11th house cusp, perhaps your friendly way of receiving other would boost their sense self value in some way.

With the 8th house/12th house connection, your need to escape the pressures of the world from time to time is merged with his need for privacy within the relationship. When he's in the mood to connect for you it can feel like a place to escape to (and I'm not just talking about the physical stuff, the 8th house is about the emotional sanctity of the relationship as well).

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I always pay attention if there are close to exact overlays of houses in synastry, this will become a very big theme for them, and probably especially int erms of aspects of planets within these houses or ruling the houses. Like those areas are more interconnected (inseparably) than other areas.

For Mr Sag and me that would be my DESC and his 3rd house on 7 and 9 Gemini (and of course my ASC and his 9th house),

and the second closest would be my 8th and his 5th (12 and 16 Cancer) with my Saturn being exactly on his 5th house cusp.

of course these are pretty generous orbs here, and usually I pay attention to closer orbs than this (the DESC-3rd house on 7 and 9 Gemini i think is close enough still, though not precise)

posted April 26, 2016 10:08 AM            

Also drawn to Leo 23 Venus(Moon,Sun) = my ASC. Leo 23 is also:
conj my chart ruler Mars 19Leo38,
trine my Sun 24Aries50
trine my 5H Jupiter 28Sag57(also 5H ruler)
sextile my Uranus(co-ruler of my 7H) 23Gemini00 conj my 11H cusp. (like Ceri)

My good local friend Sun 24Leo58 (I'm romantically attracted, she is not). Her Tau ASC BML-Lust-SN conj my NN-MC.

posted April 26, 2016 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I think you're right, I too noticed the 5th, 7th, 8th house stuff as more crucial in attractions then angle conjunctions.

You mentioned that your Moon was conjunct his Asc and he was very interested at first, but then as you got closer he seemed to lose interest. This does suit the symbolism of the 1st house when it comes to first impressions. Like he had an amazing initial impression of you. Your receptive Moon traits went well with his spontaneous self-expression. Then after getting to know you, he realized the rest of your nature may not have been what he was looking for. This does not mean anything was wrong with either one of you. Sometimes this just happens in the dating game.

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posted April 26, 2016 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
I view major planets conjunct the angles like a Saturn glue, same effect. They create a bond that goes beyond attraction.

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posted April 26, 2016 11:42 AM            

As I was reading through this article I was thinking the same thing you mentioned, something isn't quite right, although I do find it quite helpful and suggestive that angle conjunctions from the other persons planets especially the moon and venus being involved can manifest an irresistible attraction.

but I don't see this to be the answer to solve unrequited love or one sided attraction but i find it helpful to include as well and like you said take into account into rulers 5th,7th,8th house planets gender planets, overlays, vertex etc.

The reason why I disagree is because my ex has her uranus & saturn conjunct my IC EXACT and I have to say I defently felt a pull in the beginning but not as much as her mentioning that the only conjunction to her angles is my moon in the 7th house in aries conjunct her DESC at 5 degrees of orb, however it is conjunct her 7th house sun in aries within 2 degrees of orb applying.

I feel a much stronger attraction with someone else At the moment and I can't seem to wrap my head "how can this be?" I look at the synastry and im like really? Even progressed as well and I think to myself "how? I have more conjunctions with my ex than anything". Is a very attractive person everyone finds him to be very good looking but Ive found myself finding him attractive in a way I kind of can't describe...I ended up crushing. I have MORE geometric completions with him than with her I have to note...im starting to think geometric completions in synastry are very potent suggested by LeeLoo

please do not quote thank you!!

posted April 26, 2016 11:47 AM            

my venus-sun-mars stellium in 4th conjunct his 5th cusp (venus with less than 1 orb)

my jupiter ruler of my 8th (conjunct his 7th cusp and oppose his moon in his AC)

my 5th-11 axis exact with his AC-DC axis with the moon (ruler of his 4th) oppose my 8th house ruler on it.

my moon-mercury conjunct his IC

his venus-sun on my 5th, his neptune on my 8, my neptune on his 8th

this without looking to all the aspects between the personal relationship planets and rulers...

when i compared with the man I am interested now..

his moon in my 8th, my moon in his AC
his neptune on my 7th, my neptune in his 7th. my venus,mars, sun in his 1st.. and pluto uranus in his 5th (but generational and dont conjunct the cusp) same he put his uranus-pluto on my 5th...

he activates my 8th house but i activate nothing..

posted April 26, 2016 03:32 PM            

"While an orb of 6° still works, we do prefer smaller orbs and much more prefer an orb of 3°. The reason is that a wider orb may be overruled by other exact aspects and/or midpoints. FYI: exact midpoints between two persons always overrule the aspects!"

Doesn't cosmitec have another article about midpoints? If they always overrule aspects, why not jump straight to the midpoint comparison in synastry comparison to find the dominant compatibility points? lol. If I am understanding this part of the article correctly, then I would look to see for example, what the other person triggers on my moon/venus midpoint, or mars/venus midpoint, etc.

posted April 26, 2016 05:17 PM            

With my boyfriend, i think he is the one who feels it more, but i really like him too. My Saturn exactly conjuncts his DSC. And his IC conjuncts my ASC by a degree or two.

posted April 26, 2016 09:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
They do so in fact, along with other precise aspects and configurations they always interprete the exact midpoints when doing example-charts.

Personally I don´t think it is so much a case of midpoints "overruling" anything but being part of the texture of the chart.

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that was more of a rhetorical thing...lol. yeah, i hear you Ceridwen, but I'm curious as to how you would rank the midpoint connections in synastry, say over direct planetary aspects as well as asteroids or nodal connections. I'm finding midpoints to be significant in my studies, and have been drawn to them beyond the composite and davison, and into just the natal and where our personal trigger points may be.

posted April 27, 2016 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Angel, you would be an interesting case to look at from all astro perspectives here. If you don't see a thing, it might be we do. But without having the birth data myself/ourselves it will Always be a bit more limited. Simply putting up the synastry or progressed synastry wheels here won't suffice. There are too many things I wanna see and I think I'm not the only one in that.

I would vote for a way of sharing data behind the screens in order to collectively dive into cases like yours. And make a thread for that. Many are a bit reluctant to openly share their data.

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WANNA start a thread on interpersonal?

posted April 27, 2016 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
^ Yes, and it would be REALLY nice if we [b]all thoroughly dive into it then. But this takes time ofcourse, which I don't have now. So be patient for my take. I'm curious to what others have to say also.

It's best to also repeat the things you said above etc. to move others to not take this with a grain of salt ;D[/B]

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