posted May 04, 2016 12:10 PM            

"Ceri, I want to awake another neglected progressed technique, which we're now finally able to apply with PD.
Great!

make a composite chart of A's PROGRESSED chart with B's NATAL chart

^ I have missed that option for the past couple a years, so yea it went through my mind that this WOULD be significant. After all, the geometry behind it is completely awesome & utterly understandable harmonic-wise! (you'll definitely know that)

I did it, with the quotidian angles only.

I have not used the CONVERSED version in-all below

As an outstanding quotidian TIMER:

Yesterday very-end-of-the-day I sent snowsteps to my 2 favorites as I don't want them to slip and break their neck because of the current glazed frost in our country. They will receive them TODAY ('ve seen that).

The quotidian Asc/Desc stood out!
I take the moment they will globally get them today;

MR CAP;
Composite of HIS natal / MY progressed quotidian;

- Mars : 5'09 Aries
- ASC : 5'13 Aries
- Jupiter : 6'29 Libra
- his natal vertex: 5'26 Libra

(so.. ^ see how I was driven! - the Asc was already applying within 1 deg to Mars when I got the sudden idea to order/send and immediately did)

The OTHER way around, so Composite of MY natal / HIS progressed quotidian;

- compo Moon 0'36 Cap
- his natal Sun 1'23 Cap !!!!!

(^ that's one you'll get once in the 28 year! ;D ;D ;D)

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Mr Tauri,

Composite of HIS natal / MY progressed quotidian;

- Venus : 26'49 GEM
- DESC: : 26'14 GEM
- his natal Uranus : 26'33 SAG
- his natal IC : 25'45 GEM

(^ see how I was driven by love and care! / and also this one must have been applying within 1 deg when I directly materialized the order/send option)

(it's funny cause he has a Venus/desc conj in natal and I have it currently in progressed quotidian / so ofcourse that becomes one in the compo)

- IC : 27'02 Pisces

(^ I rember making the order at 26'59 which is to-the-minute my natal Sun/Moon midpoint! and his natal Venus is 28'45 Venus)

- MOON : 27'23 Aries
- his natal Sun: 0'59 Taurus

(LOl ^ u see... that one is what I also have with Mr Cap currently, once in the 28 year! - :;D)

The OTHER way around (my natal / his q.progressed).. I don't see so much.

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** Conclusion (until now): When making a Composite quotidian chart of A's natal chart and B's progressed chart we see the ACTION on the angles. The action is coming from person B, the one whose progressed chart is involved.

A personal pVenus on the quotidian pDesc (me) makes one actively loving + being loved. **

(^ that 'being loved' is another littl'e story of today, not exactly noteworthy but very typical)

Prove me wrong "

posted May 05, 2016 02:39 PM            

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I can`t prove you wrong. In fact recent event charts proved you right over and over again

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Wow! Really??

posted May 05, 2016 03:14 PM            

my Q DESC 22°30 Scorpio
his n Uranus 23°24 Scorpio

my Q MC 23°44 Cap
his n Venus 25°55 Cap
- maybe this one was a tad wide, I usually cut the orb at about 1 degree

my Q Vertex 20°39 Libra
(opp. my n Chiron 20°02 Aries)
his n Pluto 21°23 LIbra
(this one also fell onto our c-Node on 20 Libra)

his Q DESC 5°57 Aquarius
his p Mercury 6°03 Aqua
(our pr c-Sun 5°51 Aqua)
my p Sun 7°53 Aqua (so possibly out of orb? What do you think? 2 degrees still okay, or am I reaching?)

his Q MC 14°23 Aries
, nothing too big in my chart (unless we count Aphrodite on 13 LIbra and Eris on 13 Aries)

however our composite Pluto is on 15 Libra

his Q Vertex 23°36 Sag
my n Mercury 25°03 Sag
but of course maybe not yet in orb.

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and I also made the composite of our quotidian and each others natal, as you had suggested.

composite of my quotidian and his natal

DESC 24°01 LIbra
Moon 24°06 Libra
- this really blew my mind. lol
Interestingly his Draco ASC is on 24 LIbra too, opposing my Draco Venus on 25 Aries

MC 11 Cap

VX 9°34 Libra
(conj. my n Pluto on 9°05 Libra)

But anyway I thought the Moon-DESC-conjunction was pretty cool. lol

Well nothing that outstanding from the perspective of his Quotidian to my natal if I remember it right, let me check though

Hmm, something came up, but I do not know how to weigh it

ASC 6°29 Libra
VX 7°32 Libra (trine Venus 8°15 Aqua)

MC 9°40 Cancer

and this seems weird

Moon 26°03 Pisces
(conjunct his natal ASC on 25°37 PIsces and conjunct my Draco ASC on 26°51 Pisces)
though it also opposed his n Saturn on 26°42 Virgo and squaring our composite Sun on 26 Sag (with our Suns being conjunct closely anyway)

posted May 05, 2016 04:41 PM            

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his Q DESC 5°57 Aquarius
his p Mercury 6°03 Aqua
(our pr c-Sun 5°51 Aqua)
my p Sun 7°53 Aqua (so possibly out of orb? What do you think? 2 degrees still okay, or am I reaching?)

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Well, with his pSun at about 3'50 Aqua and the pCompo Sun at 5'51, a definite wow!
It's a once-in-a-year thing after all.. that Q-Desc of him. No wonder he would try to get closer..

and to not forget all other angle hits with MOON/DESC

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Moon 26°03 Pisces
(conjunct his natal ASC on 25°37 PIsces and conjunct my Draco ASC on 26°51 Pisces)
though it also opposed his n Saturn on 26°42 Virgo and squaring our composite Sun on 26 Sag (with our Suns being conjunct closely anyway)

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posted May 05, 2016 05:19 PM            

Once in 28 years you say? lol we picked quite a day then.

To be honest it was just so bizarre though, it was different than at the meeting in august, and well, there was also this longish moment during the gig itself, when he would play guitar, and just looking at me. But not really into my face, just, well I am still trying to figure out if he was studying my necklace or figuring out himself if I had gained weight again or just being far out with his mind.
It was just, I donīt know, occasionally there is a lack of the usual humour between us (Even nonverbally ), and he seems to be so freaking serious and thoughtful that it`s making ME nervous. Not even sure I WANT to know what he was thinking at these moments. Just a weird day, moony maybe ?

posted May 05, 2016 05:59 PM            

I will have

Q DESC 5°41 Aqua
Q VX 23°17 Sag
Q MC 13°00 Aries

it just baffled me a little, cause it was what he had in february. lol

Well on that sunday, when he is still scheduled to be there as of now...

he has

Q ASC 00°21 Libra
Q VX 00°51 Aries

Q MC 00°28 Cancer

it is not really all that important in relation to me but I just found it almost funny that those angles are all on the cardinal degrees, AP, esp. the Q VX-DESC on 00 Aries.

WEll in the composite of my progressed to his natal

Q ASC 00°36 Gemini
p Juno 1°31 Gemini

Q IC 21°08 Leo
p Saturn 20°10 Leo
(this one is just separating by then)

Q Vertex 10°53 scorpio
p Uranus 12°55 Scorpio
(possibly still out of orb, but applying at least)

oh and square p Venus 11°58 Aquarius

so in fact that Venus is aligned with the VErtex/Uranus-mp

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from his perspective

his progressed - my natal

Q ASC 3°41 Scorpio
( I find that interesting cause it conjuncts my progressed Uranus by 1 degree)

Q IC 17°43 Aquarius
(my n Moon 17°06 Aquarius)
also on the antiscion of
his p uranus 13°10 Scorpio (orb: 0°53)

That P-Moon is by then on 27!°32 Pisces, applying to his natal Avx on 28°28 Virgo.

And out of curiosity I checked the progressed / Quotidian composite itself as well

Q DESC 03°01 Pisces
p Venus 04°19 Pisces

Q MC 22°14 Taurus
n Juno 22°18 Taurus

posted May 05, 2016 07:58 PM            

THE QUOTIDIAN ANGLES ARE THE TRUE PROGRESSED ANGLES.

After one year they're back at its place in the quotidian realm. They move with the right speed here.

(^ ofcourse the angles move extremely fast in reality so it's impossible they would move 1 deg a year like we find in our progressed chart on astro.com)

The quotidian angles are a great timer guys~!

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I will have

Q DESC 5°41 Aqua
Q VX 23°17 Sag
Q MC 13°00 Aries

it just baffled me a little, cause it was what he had in february. lol

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Aah now it's your turn to be Q Desc!

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his Q DESC 5°57 Aquarius
his p Mercury 6°03 Aqua
(our pr c-Sun 5°51 Aqua)

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"Possibly"... so, let's wait and see.

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posted May 05, 2016 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
For all the freshmen in Town:

THE QUOTIDIAN ANGLES ARE THE [b]TRUE PROGRESSED ANGLES.

After one year they're back at its place in the quotidian realm. They move with the right speed here.

(^ ofcourse the angles move extremely fast in reality so it's impossible they would move 1 deg a year like we find in our progressed chart on astro.com)

The quotidian angles are a great timer guys~!

"Possibly"... so, let's wait and see.

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You can download the free and easy to use PD software to have the quotidian option.
For more info, leave a note of interest.[/B]

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LOL, a second freshman here (Lilya, this was a good one, lol!) and

NOTE OF INTEREST

mir or Ceri, if I may ask, I don't mean to tire the advanced of you with many questions, just one, how do we find the quotidian angles? I know it's way advanced for me, but still I want to know how to do this and when it's the right time, I'll return and study it more!
Thanks in advance!

posted May 05, 2016 08:36 PM            

Planetdance, here; http://www.jcremers.com/?id=Planetdance&lan=en

posted May 05, 2016 08:40 PM            

FILE->PROGRESSION->QUOTIDIAN

posted May 05, 2016 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
OK i see...

FILE->PROGRESSION->QUOTIDIAN

Simple as that.

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Thanks so much Mir, I am gonna try this right now lol

posted May 06, 2016 08:36 AM            

"Aah now it's your turn to be Q Desc!"
Yeah, well let`s wait and see.

Well the Q DESC is being square the p Venus/SAturn-mp by only 9 minutes and applying, and that doesn`t look so merry.

Not sure about squares to midpoints, and of course sometimes Venus/Saturn can be more constructive/ productive, but all in all I`d preferred Venus/Uranus to be honest or even better Venus/Jupiter. lol
Whatever kind of relating could happen with that, it might be either serious/ sincere or not happening at all.

posted May 06, 2016 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

How much orb for aspects with the quotidian angles do we allow? Sorry if this has been mentioned and didn't see it, about 3 d max for conjunctions is it good or wide?

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Just to give you an example in my own chart.

Giving you the overlook over 3 days, today, tomorrow and on sunday.

QASC
29°05 Cancer
29°48 Cancer
00°31 Leo

- as you can see the Quotidian ASC moves not even one degree within one day, though I think the rough figure of 1 degree per day is okay; it also depends what rising sign you have. Cancer/ Leo is slow rising, if there were Pisces it would be much faster-

Q MC
04°03 Aries (on my n IC today. lol)
05°07 Aries
06°12 Aries

- Aries is also a fast rising sign, along with Pisces the fastest, so you can see that the MC moves a bit more than one degree per day, so the 1 degree = per day figure holds true in terms of MC too-

QVertex
15°24 Sag
16°14 Sag
17°05 Sag
- about the same motion as the ASC-

So we can say that the quotidian angles move about one degree per day (just approximately), and I tend to use 1 degree as orb, and would extend it to 1,5-2 degrees as maximum, but being aware that this might not hold up as "timer" anymore, but possibly could be some foreshadowing?

Well the quodian angle conjunct a natal Sun is a BIG timer for a meeting, I wonder if your birthtime might be a minute or a few unprecise? I think the angle wuold have been probably within the 1 or 1,5 degree orb to his Sun on time of your meeting.

posted May 06, 2016 09:31 AM            

"And can we add aspects to all or aspects to the nodes or chiron, too?"
Yes, we can, under OPTIONS you can edit PLANETS/ASPECTS by checking the boxes in the aspect grid. Just play with it a little and you will find out.

"How can I find if my birthtime is let's say 2 minutes different from what I know?"
If you check some very outstanding events in your life with the birthtime of 20:42 (transits, quotidian progressions) and find there are the expected major aspects in play (usually Jupiter-Pluto including nodes to the angles) at a more exact orb, then it is very likely the adjusted birthtime is the right one.
But rectification is a tedious process.

posted May 06, 2016 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"But I have one new, why Vertex isn't appearing in PD?"
No clue why. I am missing it, too. But obviously it is not part of the program, or I have not found it yet.

"And can we add aspects to all or aspects to the nodes or chiron, too?"
Yes, we can, under OPTIONS you can edit PLANETS/ASPECTS by checking the boxes in the aspect grid. Just play with it a little and you will find out.

"How can I find if my birthtime is let's say 2 minutes different from what I know?"
If you check some very outstanding events in your life with the birthtime of 20:42 (transits, quotidian progressions) and find there are the expected major aspects in play (usually Jupiter-Pluto including nodes to the angles) at a more exact orb, then it is very likely the adjusted birthtime is the right one.
But rectification is a tedious process.

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posted May 29, 2016 09:40 AM            

So composite of my progressed and his natal
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Saturn on IC

Sun= Jupiter/MC 0°14
Physical well-being. Susceptible to flattery. new opportunities

Sun= Neptune/MC 0°58 d
Personal weaknesses, secrets or want of clarity. Felling guilty.

Mercury = Jupiter/Saturn 0°03 d
Joyful parting. To realize a thought
speaking with great maturity. asking the right questions. Change, a fortunate separation, a journey.

Mercury = Jupiter/MC 0°30
To enjoy talking. Mental tranquility and contentment.

Venus = Pluto/BML 0°02

Mars = Pluto/ASC 0°08
To plan changes.courage; foolhardiness and daring

Saturn = Mars/ASC 0°57d
Through actions of others to be separated from something

Uranus = Moon/ASC 0°15
Sudden unusual events with or for female persons.

ASC = Mercury/Pluto 0°40d
To have dealings with adaptable people. To speak about a changed situation with others. Others change their views.

ASC = Sun/Pluto 0°48 d
One comes across to others as a powerful person, or, negatively, overbearing. Finding it easy to get the attention of other people. One who appears more powerful than they really are.

MC = Moon/Neptune 0°21
Sensitivity. Touchiness. The sense of smell, state of dreaming. Mentally impressed through secrecies of or because of female persons.

posted May 29, 2016 10:23 AM            

Pluto widely conjunct 12th house cusp (as chartruler)

no angular planets, however interestingly ASC conjunct my pr Uranus and IC conjunct my natal Moon exact

and also noticed Venus conjunct my pr Sun exact

midpoints

Sun = Moon/ASC 0°38 d
Personal acquaintance with women. Easily made acquaintances. Many changes in acquaintances

Moon = Sun/Jupiter 0°01 d
A lucky day for or with women. Choosing the right moment.A harmonious expression of feeling. The feeling of needs fulfilled. A happy hour,

Moon = Saturn/ASC 0°13 d
To take leave of women. To be separated or rejected from female persons.One is impressionnable to negative reactions about oneself coming from other people.

Mercury = Moon/ASC 0°07d
Correspondence or conversation with female persons. Professional conversations with many people.

Mercury = Jupiter/Saturn 0°13 d (still a tad wide, but applying; curiously this one will be within one minute of orb in august, when I am going to see him on stage again)

speaking with great maturity;
asking the right questions. Change, a fortunate separation, a journey.To realize a thought

Venus = Uranus/ASC 0°03
To fall in love suddenly.A love of relating in an unpredictable manner.

Mars = Pluto/ASC 0°27 d
To plan changes.

Jupiter = Sun/ASC 0°43 d
To enjoy advantages and support from relationships. To form associations that are very fortunate for the native.

Jupiter = Moon/Saturn 0°22 d (Peak around 20th june)

Woman travelling. The happily separated woman. Happily separated from a woman. The grass widow(er). Pleasant evening hours.
Quiet happiness
To feel good about dealing with difficult feelings. One's enthusiasm comes out of sincere and enduring emotions and has staying power. An excessive control of one's feelings.

Jupiter = Mercury/ASC 0°21 d
To be well thought of by others. To be hilarious with others.

Saturn = Moon/Mercury 0°12 d
Departure of or departure from young girls or women. Unsteady. Travelling. To change the place. To learn slowly, to remember for a long time.
To be cautious or apprehensive about communicating one's feelings, and possibly the tendency to do so slowly over time. To hold back on expressing one's emotions. The fear that one will be criticized or rejected for expressing one's feelings.

Saturn = Jupiter/ASC 0°02 d
To experience refusal. Not being accepted. Separations from friends.

Uranus = Venus/MC 0°08 d
Sudden affection. To be inflamed with affection.

Neptune = Pluto/MC 0°44
The evolution and transformation are hardly noticed on the surface. Creeping alterations.mystic visions, a purified and refined soul-life. Obsessive insecurities that may be caused by disruptive psychic forces and also which may have no basis in actual physical reality.

Pluto = Sun/Mercury 0°04
Thinking that is capable of development. Changeable thinking (flexible). Making far-reaching plans. A dramatic push to new perspectives.

Pluto = Moon/ASC 0°11
Over-dramatisation or obsessive importance of relationship. Changes of one's own circumstances through acquaintance with females. One is strongly impacted by emotional sharing in one-on-one relationships. One can get deeply in touch with one's feelings when interacting with another, though there may be fear of and resistance to doing so.

ASC = Sun/Saturn 0°18 d
Personal difficulties through others or in general. Separations.

ASC = Mwercury/Saturn 0°06 d
To take leave. To depart or go away. To move. To travel. To roam.

ASC = Moon/Jupiter 0°07 d
Acquaintance with cheerful and serene women. Happy and cheerful surroundings. The tendency to be happy and cheerful in the company of other people,
the creation of harmonious environment. Fortunate contacts.

ASC = Mars/Uranus 0°25 d
To be connected with sudden events. To rebel together with others, or others rebel against the native.

MC = Mars/Jupiter 0°31 d
Satisfaction and contentment in one's activity. Content with oneself.The joy of living

MC = Neptune/Node 0°07
In one's career one makes subtle, intuitive connections with others.