posted May 17, 2016 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
some midpoint interpretations.

Node= Sun/Jupiter 0°00
the striving for mutual and shared happiness. New plans with others that feel bound to succeed . The wish to marry.

Node= Sun/Uranus 0°01d
The ability to make new contacts quickly. Sudden meetings, sudden experiences with other persons, being together with excited or intense people, quick new associations.
The need to be around people who will allow one to be oneself fully and openly. Spiritual evolution can happen with suddenness and in unexpected ways.

Jupiter = Venus/Chiron 0°04
The channeling of spiritual love into physical reality. An enthusiasm and expansiveness that is generous and loving toward all and which promotes an awareness of the deepest and most meaningful values inherent in everything.

Jupiter =Venus/Saturn 0°17 d
Happy for moments. Happiness of love with consequent separation.
An illegitimate relationship.
One takes a positive attitude toward the limitations encountered in life, and in general can be happy with simplicity and austerity. The desire to expand the depth of one's relationships

Jupiter = Uranus/Neptune 0°59 d
The tendency to rely on others. A strange luck or good fortune; rejuvenation of the spirit. the joy of hope or expectation. The renewed courage to once again face life.

Uranus = Venus/Chiron 0°08
inspired, creative, and unique way of being able to tune others into love and help them to see the beauty and richness of everything around them.

Uranus = Venus/Saturn 0°21 d
Short harmonious union, then separation. Revelling in illicit love. the desire to overcome inhibitions or obstacles in love suddenly
The desire to be freed from the limitations found in love and other relationships. Strange or unusual problems encountered when interacting with others. A sudden encountering of someone who one feels a deep love for.

Venus = Sun/MC 0°29
Body and soul are devoted to love. To show one's preferences. a love union.

Moon = ASC/MC 0°29
guided by emotional instinct, striving to make cordial connections with others. Emotional attitude towards life.

Mars = Venus/Pluto 0°45 d
Sexual feelings develop. strong sensual nature. Desire for many children (rape). coarse expression of feeling.
Intense love expressed with great passion. To feel an overwhelming urge to act. One is impelled to take initiative based on an intense love.

Pluto = Sun/Venus 0°50 d
Strong excitability in love leading into over-indulgence and excesses.
A fateful love union.
Obsessive love. Finding the person that pushes all your buttons.

ASC = Mars/MC 0°26 d
confidence, recognition, assuming leadership.

ASC = Moon/MC 0°31
emotional relating to others. comprehensions of other`s spiritual needs.

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posted May 17, 2016 08:21 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Would be pleased to see the chart if you care to share and describe how it works for your situation. Very interested to see.

I guess the vertex will be changing along with the angles as rapidly as these things change, right? But i do think there's something to the synchronistic magic of chart casting such that especially the vertex will be pivotal in terms of the fatedness and the how and why it's being brought into being at all... seems the chart you cast is very connected to your love nature, it almost puts Venus as a kind of 'significator' for you personally with this chart... just a thought.

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Yeah I would love to post my chart too ill see if I can tonight but I don't want to get too personal on this thread unless if you can don't quote me I'll actually delete this comment as soon as you see it. I just don't want things to get leaked on the Internet you know? I wanna be as confidential as possible on here.

And yes the angles will change about every two hours the sign changes. The vertex does take a couple hours to travel through each sign of the wheel. Well as you had said in your previous comment I believe so unless im mistaken I used the moment as of the question "what's the current status to my situation with this person?" And indeed it was fated the event chart vertex aspecting my venus says a lot I mean this person is important to my growth indeed and there is a 5th house quality strong essence and I do feel my venus contributes to the status of us 10000% but since the event chart pluto and juno are retrograde also conjunct my natal venus and I am somewhat discouraged by the situation and I feel to some degree there is a strong transformation and change going on currently with our situation plus I feel I am not being treated fairly (JUNO RETRO) Tends to mean that to me personally but I also feel a strong fated quality at the same time as you had mentioned.

posted May 17, 2016 08:31 PM            

i wont quote and really appreciate your sharing what you have shared there, lots of well thought out food for thought for me. Thank you. I appreciate your desire for confidentiality; I have certain urges in that department bit for the most part lay it all on the table to a fault (i can't remember anymore what aspect it is that I have natally which I heard described as the person who's always spilling their own beans... but I've got it! Despite aaaall my Scorpio (actually I personally think Cancer is more private than Scorpio! Anyway...)).

I hope it's ok i reference one point in your post (let me know if not and I'll delete/edit):

I totally know what you mean about Juno afflictions/difficulties (or even her mere presence, by conjunction in transit especially), and a feeling of not being treated equally or fairly in relationship. As you can see, in our EVC for this time Juno is square Uranus. Juno is at 19 Scorpio; my natal Sun is 21 Scorpio. Uranus is @ 21 Aquarius, which is conjunct our composite Moon/Amor/Vertex (18-19 Aqua).

So you can read between the lines there maybe and imagine what we're going through a bit...

posted May 17, 2016 08:47 PM            

That will happen after this weekend, on Tuesday, when he returns from a trip to the cabin with his mom (we're usually together every night so that will signal the end of a break and we'll see what comes of it).

Not sure I want the satisfaction of seeing my little prediction come true lol... but then again I'm always being surprised by the actual manifestation of transits. And am completely immersed while it's happening. Very grateful for the perspective astrology affords though.

posted May 17, 2016 08:59 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Silly of me to take angles into account given i don't have the right angles on that Davison but I'mgonna call it divinatory synchronicity and claim some artistic license

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posted May 17, 2016 09:09 PM            

I am really interested to watch these charts in operation, see how things progress, and how events are triggered by them. Maybe Juno is more of a side note in this chart but she's a major one! Major piece of the puzzle which is needed to understand our situation, imo.

But that being said maybe the real commitment if there is to be one will start to ripen in its manifestation when the Sun/Venus there reaches the trine to Saturn/Pluto. Right now I can feel the trine to Jupiter--very nice and positive and helping us through the considerable tension and dissolution signified by Saturn-Pluto I think... and the Juno-Uranus square.

posted May 17, 2016 11:40 PM            

honestly I'm starting to question the absolute validity of this method (which is only healthy until I see more examples and watch it in action a bit more I suppose).

But anyway! Once you've got that Davison chart as its own thingy on astro you just make another chart for the present day or whatever day you're interested in--meeting chart, first kiss, bad fight... whatever, and then make a composite of those two.

posted May 17, 2016 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
Yungang, I'm going to be completely annoying and ask you how you go about making a composite of the Davison and progressed on Astro? 🙏

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Also it's not a composite of the Davison and progressed but a composite of the Davison and a given day. Event chart composite styles..

That little emoji is too cute for annoyance to be real.

posted May 18, 2016 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Also it's not a composite of the Davison and progressed but a composite of the Davison and a given day. Event chart composite styles..

That little emoji is too cute for annoyance to be real.

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Thank you my dear 😘

posted May 19, 2016 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Will be very happy to see the chart and hear anything you do wish to share/explore about it. I know very well the feeling of fatedness/great difficulty/personal growth all wrapped into one! Certainly... it's hard but good growth stuff happening right?

Not trying to convince you to share here more than you're comfortable at all as I certainly can understand wanting to keep personal things from running all over everywhere. I do really appreciate the benefits though of talking it out/sharing, and thereby learning a little more about my own situation. I understand how it can undermine me in some regards to show my own vulnerability and share my story so openly, but ultimately I find it strengthening to do that. Better anything than shame! Not implying at all, at all that you feel shame, as I really really hear you re: privacy, just noticing the struggle in my own mind over how much/what to share and realizing there's nothing really to fear but people's judgments... and hurting people--of course we want to avoid that.. but ultimately it seems in terms of healing and bringing light to the world the benefits of sharing openly outweigh the risks of exposure... yet some days you'll find me singing a different tune and advising complete discretion, not uttering a single word or saying anything extraneous, for fear of just throwing my energy away... so there's a balance

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Okay sorry I haven't responded I've been very busy and I will post the charts along with my natal and his and our composite (birth times are accurate) when I get a chance today. And im glad you understand about the privacy and everything!! yes good growth stuff happening I feel with my situation with him. I'll post it the charts later.

And yes I can see how the juno placements you listed in the event composite along comparing with your natal and his and your composite can manifest in an unfair feeling of treatment especially with the square to uranus from juno in the event composite aspecting your natal sun that is felt there.

Has there been DISTANCE? Emotional distance? Have you felt that? Since event composite uranus is conjunct composite moon/AMOR/vertex ?

posted May 19, 2016 12:13 PM            

And yes, there has been distance. For sure. That's been ameliorating a great deal this week for some reason, a great deal of renewed real closeness and genuine crazy laugher and stuff which we have been missing a great deal... used to laugh all the time and feel more in tune and safe and vulnerable together... but times got hard and self esteem ran low... but it's back, the good feeling and the closeness which was there in the beginning is renewed somehow. We had a big revolution in our relationship recently because his mad crush finally ended things with him and he has been coming to terms with that as well as coming closer to being able to truly commit to me... a bumpy road but i think we're coming out the other side with a real sense of both wanting to be together and I'm feeling more secure in myself. It's a crazy relationship though. The midpoints of the Davison chart... the way they hit my chart is pretty harsh and challenging... I'll make up a list for you to see some time soon in case you're interested (I appreciate your asking for more details based on the charts, it helps me think through things a great deal).

I think Uranus there on the composite moon is definitely indicative of our extreme mood swings as a couple; there will be closeness and distance in the space of a few seconds, and revolution on a near constant basis... the composite and Davison both have a stellium in Aquarius too, and composite Moon is sextile composite Uranus so the Uranus energy is generally in our favour... although Uranus does make a lot of semisquares in the Davison and that's felt...

posted May 19, 2016 12:17 PM            

Speaking of Juno.. Transiting Juno Rx is just about to hit my ascendant. Last night we fuqed up... And now I'm possibly pregnant. I'm taking herbal abortifacients and stuff and committed to not having this baby if there is one. It's just interesting to see t.Juno on my ascendant having THIS manifestation. I was wondering what exactly she would bring. She is the patron saint of childbirth or whatever, right? I believe it now. I hope she will also help me with the morning after stuff. I think so. Since she's into equality she is probably pro choice too eh?

Don't quote! .. heh... although I'll leave this here (probably), in the name of science!

posted May 19, 2016 01:11 PM            

Well I would see it as an emotional distance or agreeing to have some form of detachment or possibly the woman is distant location wise? Im not sure im a bit confused you said the Event chart (davison + moment = composite) is conjunct composite moon/Amor/vertex in aquarius?

posted May 19, 2016 02:25 PM            

It was a really intense convo we had this morning though. I won't get into all the gory details but some trust issues came up. I think he's learning to trust me more deeply because I'm unfailingly honest (to a fault--like i said... i lay it all out. His Pluto in my 12th, his Saturn 0'07 degrees from my ascendant on the 12th house side... my Jupiter in his 12th house).

posted May 19, 2016 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:

Ceres on his Midheaven in Aqua would tell me that he doesn't know how to nurture, that's how he wohld appear to the public or he is a total nurturer to everybody! He presents that in public or at least people pick up on that what do you think?

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He is very kind to everyone he encounters--IF he doesn't feel threatened by them. He can make a complete stranger feel like the most special person in the world because his quiet genuine-ness is so moving and heartfelt that anybody even in the least attuned to energy and vibration and truth will pick up on it and feel nurtured--in an odd way, like they've never felt before. And it's an almost formal, detached yet very oddball, daring, unconventional and charming kind of nurture... in keeping with the rest of his chart... you know it is special when he shines it on you in part because he's so exacting, and merciless in some ways, his tenderness is extra delicious... his Ceres is 17 Aqua, his ascendant 17 Gemini (to be confirmed--is between 14 and 17), my Venus 17 Libra. So i feel it ... and I vibe to it--I personally don't like dripping sentimentality and overbearing nurturing... it can sometimes do it for me but it feels awkward accepting it in some ways. Some parts of me appreciate it some don't. Romantically I've never been attracted to that kind of oozing... i think it's my Libra Venus.. quite cerebral. And then the whole Moon in Cap thing.

posted May 19, 2016 04:32 PM            

Legit interesting though in context of what we've been discussing:

Tightest aspects last night at the time of the slip up for me were:

posted May 22, 2016 01:20 PM            

And I also want to post the charts omg I really want to participate in this research you came up with.

posted June 20, 2016 07:52 AM            

Ignore the angles and Vertex and houseplacements though.

our Davison with transits:

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Event-Davison

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Event-composite (with our Davison chart)
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Lol and we are not even going to meet probably.