posted August 21, 2016 10:13 AM            

Ok! Will do! Been meaning to incorporate this one more...

"In that particular event it fell onto my natal Mercury/Mars and Sun/Mars-mp, so seems for me this was about a man. lol"

Heh ya think?

"I think for him it was tied to Mercury/Neptune though, so he might have been a little puzzled or confused or just communicating nonverbally."

posted August 21, 2016 10:38 AM            

This is his EVC with that moment... and I realize now that it was his lunar return!! Almost exactly...

Speaking of name asteroids on angles, too...

If I'm not mistaken, Boda is here on the degree that our progressed Bodas are going to be conjunct in a few years (mine is retrograde). Our composite Boda 7'36 Gemini, composite Juno is 7'38... so I guess that's tighter than the Venus-Juno sextile, but obviously we are going to get the tightest with smaller asteroids much of the time.

posted August 21, 2016 10:46 AM            

It was my Boda return, also, or within a degree... meaning Boda had just crossed his ascendant into his first house... hence his finally bringing it up, I guess.

The Moon here is conjunct our composite Moon, same degree... our progressed composite Ascendant is 17'59 Virgo... pr.comp Vertex, 16'37 Pisces... pr.comp Venus, 14 Virgo, pr comp POF, 19 Virgo. So it's interesting how each of our EVC MC/IC angles correspond to these.

Just more corroborating evidence for the importance of angles conjunct/flipped etc. in synastry... the implications are far reaching...

Noticing Venus/Juno here square the Vertex. Must be significant. Still coming to grips with the meaning of squares to the vertex, but obviously significant.

posted August 21, 2016 12:16 PM            

but in his own individual Event-Davison I think THESE deserve a honorary mentioning as well:

Sun square ASC/MC 0°30

Mars square MOon/Jupiter 0°16
Neptune conjunct Moon/Jupiter 0°17

Vertex conjunct Sun/Moon 0°29
Pluto conjunct Venus/EP 0°08
IC conjunct Venus/EP 0°27

Venus square Jupiter/EP 0°16
Venus conjunct Mercury/Uranus 0°22
Venus opposite ASC/Node 0°24

DESC conjunct Saturn/Neptune 0°32
(well they couldnīt have ALL Been nice)

ASC conjunct Moon/MC 0°13
ASC conjunct Juno/EP 0°15
DESC conjunct Venus/Jupiter 0°21
(DESC conjunct Sun/Neptune 0°47)

Jupiter square Venus/Juno 0°13

Juno opposite Mars/Uranus 0°10

Of course those including an angle were specific to the encounter only, but others were valid all day, including the Chiron = Sun/Pluto
(though of course maybe not with THAT exactness and precision of orb)

Might not have been related to me at all.

however his EVD Sun/Pluto on 17°02 Aquarius was conjunct my natal Moon on 17°06 Aquarius
his EVD Chiron squared my natal Moon

his EVD Pluto-IC conjunct my natal ASC
his EVD Mars opposite my natal Uranus
(and his EVD Neptune square my natal Uranus)
his EVD Vertex conjunct my natal BML
his EVD SN conj. my name in his chart (same degree)
his EVD nodal axis also squared my natal Nodes and Neptune exact, conjunct my Ceres exact and my chartruler Jupiter by 2 degrees
his EVD Venus conjunct my chartruler Jupiter exact
his EVD Jupiter conjunct my Juno exact
his EVD Mercury opposite my Pluto
his EVD EP square my Mars exact

Well of these I think it was clear that at least THOSE were very distinctly triggered by my chart, due to the aspects being conjunctions and partile:

his EVD Pluto-IC on my ASC
his EVD SN on my Ceres
his EVD Venus on my Jupiter, chartruler
his EVD Jupiter on my Juno

though I think exact oppositions and squares are very specificially triggering as well

plus I can`t help but notice that my Jupiter and JUno exactly fell onto his EVD Venus and Jupiter, and their shared midpoint right onto his EVD DESC on 13 Pisces
(actually asteroid PERSEPHONE is on 13 Virgo perfectly opposite this, whatever that means. lol)

posted August 21, 2016 12:26 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:

It seems like what Juno touches describes in what way a committed relationship manifests, the tone of it, the central themes of that commitment. I thought the Juno Ceres opposition with my daughter described my tension with her in terms of my other, romantic relationships affecting my parenting, but I think another layer is that our relationship is a Ceres related one, so my Juno is aspected by her Ceres... Juno doesn't always need to refer to marriage or romantic partnership, I've noticed... just significant commitments which require adjustments...

But this is why, when Venus DOES aspect Juno, we can expect the nature of the relationship to be decidedly romantic... or maybe to do with appraising beautiful things, or land ownership, etc. Could be... But most likely, romance, along with other indicators of course...

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I agree with that. actually that was my first thought, in the relation to your daughter how fitting to have Ceres in relation to Juno.

For us in Davison with Juno on the MC, it seems to be pronounced as well, though it is also squared by Saturn in 7th house.
We have that in composite as well. Saturn in 7th square Juno (in 4th in composite actually).

But interestingly the reason for this is that we both have a natal Saturn-Juno-aspect. His is a sextile, mine is a trine, and it results in a square in composite. Isn`t that unfair?

Though in the composite Juno is also part of a partile aspect configuration, a cradle, with

Juno
opposite Valentine-Lust in Scorpio in 10th
trine Moon in Capricorn in 12th
sextile Ceres in Pisces in 2nd

hey we also have Ceres there!!!
lol Well Ceres is on the Moon/Juno-mp obiously.
And Saturn actually is on Juno/Valentine (another of those natal occurrences, or synastric this time around as his Juno is in partile sextile to my Valentine, while my Juno is in trine to his Valentine)
and Moon is on the Valentine/Ceres-mp.

So in composite you can`t really separate the energies of Moon, Juno, Ceres, Valentine and Lust from each other. (I keep forgetting about Lust, but it is conjunct Valentine exactly, and we have a Lust-Ceres-DW in synastry, trines both way)

posted August 21, 2016 12:28 PM            

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but it just seems to be coming up as an actual practical possibility... (says my dreamy Cap Moon conjunct Neptune... so matter of factly )

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It really seems so, with those constellations in play! BTW his EVC ASC is exact on my natal Juno. lol

posted August 21, 2016 12:34 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
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This is his EVC with that moment... and I realize now that it was his lunar return!! Almost exactly...

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Isn`t it amazing how often that happens!
Important encounters on one party`s return?

I mean I do remember we first met on the day of his lunar Return back then.

And well, 2 days after that meeting, on 14th august each of us had a return happening, too. for him his lunar return, for me my final Mars Return (I have had 3 this year, and this is THE return for the next 2 years now. Interestingly the in-between-retrograde Mars-REturn for me happened just 3 days before our last meeting in May (before this one).

Makes me think he might have something to do with my Mars-Return. lol

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posted August 21, 2016 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Lol... ok I can only laugh at my EVC with that moment given our conversation

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Fascinating. Really. And so fitting. And lol cause you TOO have a minor triangle in your EVC`s currently. I am haunted by one, as well.

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posted August 21, 2016 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Nahh, only a partile conjunction, not THAT precise. My Juno is on 16°58 Pisces.

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posted August 21, 2016 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I think his composites with the event are pretty darn exciting.. pluto, Venus and jupiter angular... not to mention the North Node conjunct the ascendant from the 12th, indicating that shortly after the encounter something big clicked...

And I think lust conjunct Neptune is no small thing, given the mercury/Neptune at play, as well as a standalone.

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Yeah well can it be you are mixing up his compospite and Davison?

BTW as for the NN conjunct ASC, it interestingly means that something must have clicked PRIOR to this meeting, as ASC was of course already leaving the NN behind by 4 degrees, which was probably about 15-20 minutes in real time.

Actually I just had a hunch and looked up his Davison for the moment he joined us at our table and well it was quite a moment, too. Or several ones.

THAT Davison of his shows

NN 9°21 Virgo
ASC 9°27 Virgo

THAT must have been the moment *something* clicked for him - what it was? Who knows?
(well in his natal EROS is on 8 Pisces, my name on 9 Pisces, his AMOR on 9 Virgo, his name on 9 Virgo and Jupiter on 10 Virgo)

Venus was even more tightly bound to DSC (1°31 a), however DESC had NOT YET come onto the Venus/Jupiter-mp, that only happened when we had that encounter.

Anyway the midpointpictures related to that Venus-Node-ASC were:

SN conjunct Venus/DESC s
SN conjunct Moon/MC 1°05 s

ASC square Venus/Node a
DESC conjunct Moon/MC s

Venus conjunct Moon/MC a
Venus opp. ASC/Node wide 1°33 a
Venus conjunct Mercury/Uranus a

Hmm, possibly these two instances have to be seen as connected to each other? like prequel and sequel?

posted August 21, 2016 03:23 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Oh. Then it is coming up .. you have some Juno wisdom for us, I'm thinking.

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posted August 21, 2016 03:36 PM            

SN conjunct Venus/DESC s
Being sweet, interested in others. demonstration of kindness and sympathy with regard to other people.

SN conjunct Moon/MC 1°05 s
Adaptability, a sympathetic understanding of other people. soul affinity. spiritual relationship to the female sex.

ASC square Venus/Node a
Affectionate nature; cordiality, popularity. A love affair.

DESC conjunct Moon/MC s
An emotional attitude to one's environment, the understanding of other people's spiritual needs.The psychological influence of women in the environment.

Venus conjunct Moon/MC a
ones own attitude toward love, deep attachments. The state of experiencing a deep attachment. Significant relationships are possible.

Venus opp. ASC/Node wide 1°33 a
agreeable, affectionate treatment of other persons. The establishment of a union between people through the expression of the same interests and feelings. A love union.

posted August 21, 2016 03:36 PM            

I think, yes, in this instance, for sure. We need to look at events, and at time itself, as a dynamic flow of impulses and information, etc, an unbroken sequence, in fact, and take into account the energies which precede and follow significant events. One transit prepares us for another. Everything builds on everything else, or rather, as they say, everything modifies everything else....

posted August 21, 2016 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
so according to official interpretations what happened to him was apparently this:

SN conjunct Venus/DESC s
Being sweet, interested in others. demonstration of kindness and sympathy with regard to other people.

SN conjunct Moon/MC 1°05 s
Adaptability, a sympathetic understanding of other people. soul affinity. spiritual relationship to the female sex.

ASC square Venus/Node a
Affectionate nature; cordiality, popularity. A love affair.

DESC conjunct Moon/MC s
An emotional attitude to one's environment, the understanding of other people's spiritual needs.The psychological influence of women in the environment.

Venus conjunct Moon/MC a
ones own attitude toward love, deep attachments. The state of experiencing a deep attachment. Significant relationships are possible.

Venus opp. ASC/Node wide 1°33 a
agreeable, affectionate treatment of other persons. The establishment of a union between people through the expression of the same interests and feelings. A love union.

Venus conjunct Mercury/Uranus a
Sudden love. Sense for rhythmic or plastic beauty. Singing. Sudden pleasant news. Sudden news from friends. Excitement with or through acquaintances.
A sudden recognition or awareness of a personal love relationship; a sudden act of love.

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posted August 21, 2016 03:40 PM            

For example with that Event Davison for the time when he joined us, Moon for him was on 17 SAgittarius, while we do not have anything natally at this degree (well my Karma on 16 Gem and his Dr Valentine on 18 Gem), our composite Mercury-Sappho is on 17 SAg exact, and in DAvison Jupiter is on 16 Gemini (Mercury not far behind).

posted August 21, 2016 03:44 PM            

I had to grin about the mentioning of him being "sweet", cause that was pretty much the way he started the chat, by commenting on the empty wrappers of sugar building a big pile on the small table (5 ladies, and 4 apparently addicted to sugar ), I donīt know exactly how he phrased it, but it was kinda funny and so descriptive of the midpoints. lol

I think that was a few minutes before I offered him the bag with drops of one of the other women there. lol
Well she had gotten it out, and apparently wanted to offer it, but didn`t, because getting distracted by talking, and he was making me a bit nervous, just due to his bodylanguage, or our bodylanguage, as he managed to sit in a way that he kept his body only angled to me no matter with whom he was talking and just being basically much too close for comfort, but unlike at other times I *forgot* making the usual barriers, like with arms or legs or I don`t know, so we simply sad in a mirror position with legs outstretched, bodies angled to each other, while chatting with everyone at the table, and it was just such an open body position, that it made me feel, I don`t know, open? Vulnerable? Not in a bad way, but a little, I donīt know, close?

So I used the opportunity to turn to my neighbour on the other side, who mentioned those drops as another kind of sweet, and she was holding it a little high, so I could not see them, so I took it out of her hands to have a look into the bag, and then with one motion (that came as a surprise to me even. I was NOT master of anything I did that moment, just acting on an impulse) turned to P offering him the drops (and despite having looked a little sceptical when my neighbour got the bag out, he instantly took one, he was probably surprised by me as well. lol) and then I realized a tad too late what I was doing and that this bag was not even mine, so I offered the other women at the table the bag as well and saying to my neighbour: "I am giving away/ offering your drops, I hope you donīt mind." Well of course she didn`t but, I am usually not like that, stealing candy. LOL

Just an indicator just how nuts that man drives me occasionally.

Not sure what really happend that moment, but something did.