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angel4845
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posted June 09, 2016 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would you interpret Person A's Chart ruler - Uranus in Capricorn in the 11th - CONJUNCT Composite AMOR in Capricorn in the 1st house ? Thoughts? How do they see themselves connected to Amor in the composite?

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posted June 09, 2016 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The love being generated through their togetherness, hits them out of the blue, as a total surprise, they did not see that coming or how much they would be affected, but since Urnaus rules their chart it will shape their whole identity or expression of themselves.
Consequently it will probably be them who will express the composite Amor very clearly (that is nto to say the other eprson won`t feel it, but maybe the Uranus will be more prominent, more identified with that Amor) but doing so in a very unique manner. maybe a non traditional kind of shared love. or breaking boundaries or taboos somehow. they will also stimulate the rather conventional practical love of a Cappy Amor to evolve into new directions.

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posted June 09, 2016 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that we speak about it.

composite Valentine on 23°34 Scorpio and composite Lust on 22°03 Scorpio in 10th house conjunct,
and composite Juno on 22°19 Taurus in 4th house opposes

Mr Sag`s Uranus, 12th house ruler, on 23°24 scorpio in 8th house


and

composite Amor on 20°36 LIbra, composite Cupido on 20°47 Libra, composite NN on 20°46 Libra and composite Mars on 23°08° Libra in 9th house

conjunct

Mr Sag`s Pluto, ruler of 8th house, on 21°23 Libra in 7th house.


I never thought really deeply about that (well it struck me, but never knew how to interprete this).

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posted June 09, 2016 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The love being generated through their togetherness, hits them out of the blue, as a total surprise, they did not see that coming or how much they would be affected, but since Urnaus rules their chart it will shape their whole identity or expression of themselves.
Consequently it will probably be them who will express the composite Amor very clearly (that is nto to say the other eprson won`t feel it, but maybe the Uranus will be more prominent, more identified with that Amor) but doing so in a very unique manner. maybe a non traditional kind of shared love. or breaking boundaries or taboos somehow. they will also stimulate the rather conventional practical love of a Cappy Amor to evolve into new directions.



Omg this is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL the expression of the love is defently untraditional yes I can actually see that, would you say possibly this person may feel a love but without boundaries?


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posted June 09, 2016 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Now that we speak about it.

composite Valentine on 23°34 Scorpio and composite Lust on 22°03 Scorpio in 10th house conjunct,
and composite Juno on 22°19 Taurus in 4th house opposes

Mr Sag`s Uranus, 12th house ruler, on 23°24 scorpio in 8th house


and

composite Amor on 20°36 LIbra, composite Cupido on 20°47 Libra, composite NN on 20°46 Libra and composite Mars on 23°08° Libra in 9th house

conjunct

Mr Sag`s Pluto, ruler of 8th house, on 21°23 Libra in 7th house.


I never thought really deeply about that (well it struck me, but never knew how to interprete this).


Wooooooowwww I love that composite amor/cupido/Mars I love it!!! On the NN!! I love that jealoussssss in libraaaaaa jealous !! Okay look he likes you I thinkkkkkkk because his 8th ruler is conjunct that especially since that is his 7th house planet but he may fear the growth. What do you think? His 12th ruler Uranus on Valentine hmmmmm not sure. I suck at Uranus interpretations bleh!

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posted June 09, 2016 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg I get it I get it breaking the traditional way of a amor in cap expresses love wow I get it haha!!

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posted June 09, 2016 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b]The love being generated through their togetherness, hits them out of the blue, as a total surprise, they did not see that coming or how much they would be affected, but since Urnaus rules their chart it will shape their whole identity or expression of themselves.
Consequently it will probably be them who will express the composite Amor very clearly (that is nto to say the other eprson won`t feel it, but maybe the Uranus will be more prominent, more identified with that Amor) but doing so in a very unique manner. maybe a non traditional kind of shared love. or breaking boundaries or taboos somehow. they will also stimulate the rather conventional practical love of a Cappy Amor to evolve into new directions.



Omg this is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL the expression of the love is defently untraditional yes I can actually see that, would you say possibly this person may feel a love but without boundaries?

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yes absolutely

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posted June 09, 2016 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
yes absolutely

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posted June 09, 2016 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I do start think you might be right and everyone else who has been telling me this, Faith did so for years.

Yes I think we do like each other, probably always have done, but about the fear of growth, I think it might also be me

my 8th house Saturn is opposing composite Venus in Cappy exact.

my 4th house Chiron is on the composite SN exact and opposing this Amor-Cupido-NN (and btw Camelot is on 20 Libra as well.

It`s always been funny to me, how his Pluto is on the NN, and my Chiron on the SN. Almost like, if he can allow it to happen, he is the one pulling the whole into the future and possibly into the open (it`s in his 7th house after all), while i am pulling the brakes and hide away (in my 4th house), clinging to whatever might have went wrong in my emotional development, just so I don`t have to really go beyond it. But he is pulling and pulling and pulling, albeit unconsciously.

Interestingly composite Chiron is conjunct his Chariklo, and composite Chariklo is conjunct my Chiron.

oh and my PHOINIX is conjunct my Chiron on 20 ARies exact, while I have DNA on 20 Libra, plus SAPPHO and MUSA on 21-22 Libra.
He`s got ANTEROS on 22 LIbra I think and SPIRIT on 19 Libra.
So all of that sort of is part of the jigsaw.


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posted June 09, 2016 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I think your on the right track to be honest you seem to know exactly what the chart and asteroids tell pretty well. So you think since your Saturn is opposing composite Venus you have fears?

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posted June 09, 2016 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
How would you interpret Person A's Chart ruler - Uranus in Capricorn in the 11th - [b]CONJUNCT Composite AMOR in Capricorn in the 1st house ? Thoughts? How do they see themselves connected to Amor in the composite?

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My question would be, do they see themselves connected to the cAMOR? I know you're like, 'but chart-ruler!' but I'm thinking there needs to be a bit more than that.

Now if you've got their AMOR being conjunct, say, the cSUN, I'd say the combined energy of the relationship or association activates their concept or understanding of unconditional love. It's more of a platonic expression, in many cases, nonetheless. But unconditional love at the soul level has no physical expression, per se. It's energetic; neither romantic nor sexual.

When dealing with the composite, I've found the biggest hits are the ones where the composite's luminaries, personal points, or angles, tightly conjunct the same of either -- preferably, both -- natals. Say, one's MOON on the cSUN.

Not saying that one's asteroid won't be activated, but I'd expect it's got to be a personal point or luminary like that.

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posted June 09, 2016 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm..

Reading everything with interest. Agreeing with Ceri's interpretation... thinking with somebody's chart ruler Uranus in Cap conjunct composite Amor there would be an immediacy to the love feelings, a very pronounced and electric feeling of love which could be very sustainable because of the Cap influence...? Not sure, depends some but Uranus in Cap is so interesting. Mine recently progressed into Cap... it's at 28 Sag natally... conjunct my Saturn 0 Cap... and p.Uranus at 0 Cap now is currently conjunct my progressed Sun/Moon midpoint. Fun.

Anyway composite Amor.. i wonder about the power of it sometimes... i mean the roller coaster is going full tilt over here--we nearly broke up on the phone today--but then we both realize that we love each other like crazy... and so don't want to hurt one another... arrgh... he is very insecure because of a male friend I have who wants to help with my land project.. long story.. anyway.. . We have composite Moon conjunct Amor and Vertex (or anti-vertex depending on what birth time we use for him, flips the axis but it might be flippable anyway, confusing), 19 Aqua, is trine my Venus 17 Libra, his Valentine-Asc 17 Gemini and composite Chiron 16 Gemini.

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posted June 09, 2016 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Somehow missed what you wrote Auby. Probably something to what you're saying there too. So nice to see you here and hear your words

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posted June 09, 2016 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
How would you interpret Person A's Chart ruler - Uranus in Capricorn in the 11th - [b]CONJUNCT Composite AMOR in Capricorn in the 1st house ? Thoughts? How do they see themselves connected to Amor in the composite?

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Is Capricorn the composite ascendant?

I would think there is such a strong presence with the natal Uranus in the 11th along with being the chart ruler. I agree with what ceridwin stated and feel the native would be better able to feel love with it being a surprise of sorts lol.
Just curious if the comp asc is cap. 😊

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posted June 09, 2016 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I think chart rulers can be very much triggered by the composite conjunctions! I have cancer asc with comp Uranus conjunct my moon. I can say the relationship triggers my emotional side deeply, but also pulls out of me this freedom of emotional expression. Sometimes good, sometimes not so good! Lol. There's that wildcard Uranus in action!

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posted June 09, 2016 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
My question would be, do they see themselves connected to the cAMOR? I know you're like, 'but chart-ruler!' but I'm thinking there needs to be a bit more than that.

Now if you've got their AMOR being conjunct, say, the cSUN, I'd say the combined energy of the relationship or association activates their concept or understanding of unconditional love. It's more of a platonic expression, in many cases, nonetheless. But unconditional love at the soul level has no physical expression, per se. It's energetic; neither romantic nor sexual.

When dealing with the composite, I've found the biggest hits are the ones where the composite's luminaries, personal points, or angles, tightly conjunct the same of either -- preferably, both -- natals. Say, one's MOON on the cSUN.

Not saying that one's asteroid won't be activated, but I'd expect it's got to be a personal point or luminary like that.


So basically your saying it doesn't mean anything? Well since it doesn't mean anything as of now. I'll give you more things to list.

Comppsite chart ruler conjunct there natal Venus/Mars midpoint there natal name asteroid in the 7th house
Composite moon in the 5th house opposite there natal amor
Composite Venus square there natal Venus/Mars mispoint opposite there natal priapus in the 3rd house
Composite 7th ruler Mercury & sun opposite there natal MARS in the 4th house
Composite NN conjunct there 12th ruler Saturn in the 12th house square there natal amor
There natal Venus and moon and sun is completely unaspected to the composite.
My Mars & Mercury & moon is not recieving hard aspects to the composite yet I feel very drawn to the individual.


Aubyanne I completely understand there needs to be multiple aspects to the natal luminaries or personal planets or points etc. to say if this person feels love but however I am just talking about this SINGLE ASPECT ALONE that's all.
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posted June 09, 2016 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And I think chart rulers can be very much triggered by the composite conjunctions! I have cancer asc with comp Uranus conjunct my moon. I can say the relationship triggers my emotional side deeply, but also pulls out of me this freedom of emotional expression. Sometimes good, sometimes not so good! Lol. There's that wildcard Uranus in action!

Yes exactly I agree with you this resonates! There ascendant is Aquarius. Anyways yes i believe chart rulers are strong for example my natal Venus is conjunct the ascendant but widely and Mercury 4 degrees wide though but the sun is right on my natal Venus and I do feel this luminary to the CORE. Venus is my chart ruler but I mean it's VENUS PLANET OF LOVE OF COURSE ILL FEEL THIS AS A ROMANTIC ONE more than Uranus probably...? And yes A WILD CARD!

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posted June 09, 2016 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hmmm..

Reading everything with interest. Agreeing with Ceri's interpretation... thinking with somebody's chart ruler Uranus in Cap conjunct composite Amor there would be an immediacy to the love feelings, a very pronounced and electric feeling of love which could be very sustainable because of the Cap influence...? Not sure, depends some but Uranus in Cap is so interesting. Mine recently progressed into Cap... it's at 28 Sag natally... conjunct my Saturn 0 Cap... and p.Uranus at 0 Cap now is currently conjunct my progressed Sun/Moon midpoint. Fun.

Anyway composite Amor.. i wonder about the power of it sometimes... i mean the roller coaster is going full tilt over here--we nearly broke up on the phone today--but then we both realize that we love each other like crazy... and so don't want to hurt one another... arrgh... he is very insecure because of a male friend I have who wants to help with my land project.. long story.. anyway.. . We have composite Moon conjunct Amor and Vertex (or anti-vertex depending on what birth time we use for him, flips the axis but it might be flippable anyway, confusing), 19 Aqua, is trine my Venus 17 Libra, his Valentine-Asc 17 Gemini and composite Chiron 16 Gemini.



That is hot! Composite moon conjunct amor and vertex god that's hot! Is he contacting it? And thank you so much for your insight !!!! I appreciate it I'm glad to have you as a second opinion!

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posted June 09, 2016 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

My opinion has to be taken though with the obvious contingency (which I know you know) that the way that Uranus is aspected otherwise by his chart, and the other person's, and the composite--as well as the synthesis of the whole chart--could really modify the effects of the contact to composite Amor... then again, because of the purity of this asteroid it can be taken more easily as a standalone aspect. I wonder what midpoints in his chart fall across his Uranus..

Also--it's hot--lol.. you're so funny angel it IS hot... perhaps given that that moon is sextile Mars and Uranus--at the midpoint of the two-- (so actually it is emotionally explosive in every way I guess... argh), but I wouldn't have thought it was hot because of the amor conjunction... Yet it is, you're right.

His Ceres is at 17 Aqua, the composite Moon-Amor-Vertex is 19 Aqua, his MC is 13 Aqua (my IC 13 Aqua)--and these are trine his ascendant/Valentine 17 Gemini as I said. My Venus-Sappho 17 Libra.

My Amor-Pallas, 7 Aqua, conjunct composite Sun and opposite composite Venus.. hopeless...

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posted June 09, 2016 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My opinion has to be taken though with the obvious contingency (which I know you know) that the way that Uranus is aspected otherwise by his chart, and the other person's, and the composite--as well as the synthesis of the whole chart--could really modify the effects of the contact to composite Amor... then again, because of the purity of this asteroid it can be taken more easily as a standalone aspect. I wonder what midpoints in his chart fall across his Uranus..

Also--it's hot--lol.. you're so funny angel it IS hot... perhaps given that that moon is sextile Mars and Uranus--at the midpoint of the two-- (so actually it is emotionally explosive in every way I guess... argh), but I wouldn't have thought it was hot because of the amor conjunction... Yet it is, you're right.

His Ceres is at 17 Aqua, the composite Moon-Amor-Vertex is 19 Aqua, his MC is 13 Aqua (my IC 13 Aqua)--and these are trine his ascendant/Valentine 17 Gemini as I said. My Venus-Sappho 17 Libra.

My Amor-Pallas, 7 Aqua, conjunct composite Sun and opposite composite Venus.. hopeless...


I agree !!! I agree with everything and your right! His Uranus falls on his Juno/NN mispoint and ASC/MC midpoint.

Awwwww so sweet!!!! I love the aspects I know his Ceres on the composite moon amor vertex which I think is very lovely honestly it sounds like you have an amazing composite I'm a little jealous I have to say lol!

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posted June 09, 2016 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Saturn is on my ascendant.. lol.. urgh.. it all comes at a cost. It's not a perfect composite although it comes closer.. much.. than any I've had before as far as i can tell. And it's perfect for me right now... but it is a very challenging and consuming relationship... and that is what helps me grow... it's nice that the Love is really underpinning all of it...

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posted June 09, 2016 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
His Saturn is on my ascendant.. lol.. urgh.. it all comes at a cost. It's not a perfect composite although it comes closer.. much.. than any I've had before as far as i can tell. And it's perfect for me right now... but it is a very challenging and consuming relationship... and that is what helps me grow... it's nice that the Love is really underpinning all of it...

i see i've had someone's saturn on my libra rising and it was hard but at the same time i could actually handle it because I'm a capricorn myself

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posted June 10, 2016 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah my Moon-Neptune and Saturn are in Capricorn, so I'm quite Saturnian (??) myself... and can handle it too... but you wonder sometimes how much "handling" you want to do. Until you realize that handling stuff is like breathing oxygen.. lol... given the Capricornness.. and even if you walked from the Saturn person you'd still be looking for your next hit of something to handle..

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posted June 10, 2016 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting! Awesome interpretation Ceri

Our Composite Amor is on a sensitive position... It conjuncts Composite Karma and Composite Atropos and all conjuncts his ASC.

Composite Amor also conjuncts Composite Mars but its almost a 4º...

I am just hoping Atropos here stands for the inevitability of him falling in love...

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posted June 10, 2016 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah.. i think we have Atropos conjunct Moon-Vertex-Amor-Diana too... actually lots of asteroids are hanging out right there. It's kind of insane.

Edit: ok it's Atropos-Samadhi on the antivertex in the 12th. Sigh. Lol.

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