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yungang_grotto
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posted June 17, 2016 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know you a) wanna b) already have c) maybe don't wanna...

but anyway, progressed draconics!! Fuuuun.

Just noticed my progressed draconic Venus is conjunct my natal Sun/Moon midpoint and HIS progressed draconic Venus is conjunct HIS natal Sun/Moon midpoint... meaning progressed draconic composite Venus is conjunct Composite Sun/Moon midpoint.

I'll add more regarding potential meaning of the progressed draconic and why and whether they could be valid or useful (Faith? Help? )... but for now i leave you with this and the floor is open for more progressed draconic fun

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posted June 17, 2016 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's actually really cool.. in his progressed draconic chart right now:

IC is conjunct his natal Ascendant
DESC is conjunct my natal Venus

In my progressed draconic chart, what's fun is that both Juno and Lilith are at 0 degrees of Libra, conjunct the draconic South Node (of course), and the MC at 01'55 Libra... meaning of course that the NN is on my progressed draconic IC. I think it's cool and fun

Also progressed draconic Moon is approaching the exact conjunction with composite Sun with D.

These kinds of things give me hints about the potential that these charts are valid on a deep inner level and indicative of changes which are affecting us on that soul level. I see very little reason why the principle of draconic astrology can not also be applied to progressed charts. It may be a stretch, as Dawn said once to me, or too untethered or something, to progress a draconic composite.. but even in this I see much meaningful potential.

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posted June 17, 2016 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now That is interesting, never checked it.


my pr Dr MC is conjunct my name in his chart precisely!
(I am becoming what he`S always envisioned in me?)


my pr Dr Mercury is on 16 Gemini, pr Dr Venus on 19 Gemini, pr Dr BML on 20 Gemini - sort of reminds me of the ongoing superior Venus-conjunction. lol oh and falls onto my Karma.


my pr Dr Juno is conjunct his tropical Juno - on the same degree.


my pr Dr MOon-Vertex conjunction is on 15 Sag, and hence falls right onto our composite Neptune and will move onwards to c-Mercury on 17 Sag


my pr Dr Pluto on 00 Aquarius is conjunct our composite ASC on 01 Aquarius


my pr Dr Uranus exact on our c-AVX and conjunct both Psyches.


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his pr Dr ASC is within one degree applying to my natal Venus (and pr tropical Mars)

his pr Dr Juno is conjunct my natal Atropos exact (what kind of ending do I bring him or him to me? )

his pr Dr Mars conjunct my Dr Sun exact


his pr Dr Uranus opposes my natal Sun-Mercury exact


his pr Dr MC on his own NN


his pr Dr Vesta on my natal ASC exact (on his Dr Chiron)


his pr Dr Moon on 9 Sag, exact on my Neptune-NN, his Mercury, our first meeting charts ASC


well my pr Dr Mars is also conjunct his pr Dr Saturn (on my Dr Venus),


oh and remember how I pointed out that his pr Dr Juno falls onto the same degree as my natal Atropos?
Let`s have a closer look:

my Atropos 19°49 Aquarius
his pr Dr Juno 19°46 Aquarius


let`s see if I can find the moment it was EXACT

Oh yes 6th march this year (on my brother`s birthday. lol)

Also just about a week after the february concert, where he was "stalking" me a little.


BTW on that date

Tr Mercury 18°35 Aquarius. lol


oh and Sabian: "A Large White Dove Bearing A Message"


Anyway now that I have that progressed chart in front of me, for when that was exact, I also notice:


pr Dr MC 1°36 Aquarius
pr Dr Atropos 1°43 Aquarius r
our c-ASC 1°21 Aquarius.

So once again I ask:
when would the conjunction had been exact?


9th april 2016 (oh the day of the concert, where I was given a rose. lol Not a concert of his though)

on 1°42 Aquarius

"An Unexpected Thunderstorm"

of course it is also squared by my Uranus and pr Uranus on 1 and 2 SCorpio

"A Delicate Bottle Of Perfume Lies Broken, Releasing Its Fragrance"

I`ve always interpreted it as the releasing or even dripping out of certain feelings, thoughts, words, mostly in unpredictable ways.


and

"A House-Raising Party In A Small Village Enlists The Neighbors’ Cooperation"


But then on that exact day.

his pr Dr Moon was eXACT conjunct my natal ASC by only 1 minute on 7 Sag

"Within The Depths Of The Earth New Elements Are Being Formed"


Speaking of that Moon I see it so close to his tropical DESC, so when would that have happened?


27th january

okay and then I also see an applying, almost exact, opposition of pr Dr BML on 22 ARies to my pr Dr name on 22 LIbra, just having passed his tropical Pluto on my natal DNA.


But that is not what I wanted to mention.
Just I noticed

his pr Dr Juno on my Atropos


But also my pr Dr Jupiter on his Atropos

his Atropos 10°31 Cancer


The funny thing is that it seems to be on the midpoint of his wife`s and my name in his chart


my name 9°10 Pisces
her name 11°01 Scorpio

Since it`s a pretty close Grand trine, we have several midpoints (with varying orb here)
(BTW HIS name is opposite my name and sextile her name in his chart. lol)


Atropos opposite C/M 0°25
M opposite Atropos/C 1°11
C oppospite Atropos/M 1°36


And to include him a little


P conjunct Atropos/M 0°20

P square Mars/C 0°19
P square Jupiter/C 0°46


Also

his P/M is on 10°44 Libra

which of course means

Atropos = P/M 0°14

and his pr Dr Venus has JUST passed that P/M-mp, square Atropos in his natal.

his P/C is 9°48 Sagittarius (on my NN, yes, and curiously enough fmc ASC)

his Mercury is conjunct his P/C by 0°25
his ISIS opposes his P/C 0°19
his AMOR squares his P/C 0°45
his Jupiter square his P/C 0°22
his EROS almost squares it as well, lol 1°28
his Priapus/ML conjuncts it 0°14


OH DAmn it I got distracted AGAIN!


so once again

his Atropos 10°31 Cancer
my pr Dr Jupiter 10°16 Cancer
(it will be precise in 2017)

our Dr composite ASC 10°33 Cancer. lol

What kind of end will he bring?

Sabian:
A Clown Caricaturing Well-Known Personalities


anyway, interesting. lol

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posted June 17, 2016 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow - love this idea, yungang!

I see that my husband's progressed draconic sun is tracking with my progressed sun.

When we got married, his pr draconic sun @ 6 Aqua, pr draconic Mars 9 Aqua, on my 7 Aqua rectified DSC, and his 8 Aqua progressed DSC. My progressed sun 9 Aqua then.

This is a goldmine...so many interesting connections already!

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posted June 17, 2016 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So much interesting stuff there, Ceri.

Your pr Dr Mercury is conjunct mine @ 14 Gemini.

quote:
my pr Dr Pluto on 00 Aquarius is conjunct our composite ASC on 01 Aquarius

^ I especially like this.

Juno-Atropos...hmmmm.....time will tell?

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posted June 17, 2016 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The angles in the Draconic Progressed chart are not progressed Draconic, just wanted to bring this to your attention.

The angles are your progressed natal angles, not Draconic progressed.

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posted June 17, 2016 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This Sun - Venus double whammy theme me and my Aries share is just about everywhere.... Whatever chart, its there.

So im looking at the progressed Draconic for both .... Since we have conjuncted Venuses in the draconic synastry, they are progressing together. I see that both his and my progressed DR Venus are applying to conjunct his DR Sun. And my prog DR Sun is applying to conjunct our draconic conjuncted Venuses. Sheesh.
Everywhere! And always double.

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posted June 17, 2016 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
The angles in the Draconic Progressed chart are not progressed Draconic, just wanted to bring this to your attention.

The angles are your progressed natal angles, not Draconic progressed.


On astro.com that is true, but not in SolarFire.

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posted June 17, 2016 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes I had both open. Not sure why astro.com doesn`t give Draconic angles

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posted June 17, 2016 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
This Sun - Venus double whammy theme me and my Aries share is just about everywhere.... Whatever chart, its there.

So im looking at the progressed Draconic for both .... Since we have conjuncted Venuses in the draconic synastry, they are progressing together. I see that both his and my progressed DR Venus are applying to conjunct his DR Sun. And my prog DR Sun is applying to conjunct our draconic conjuncted Venuses. Sheesh.
Everywhere! And always double.


It is fascinating to see aspects repeating throughout many charts and over time via progressions etc. Especially Sun-Venus...! Very cool.

We have the double whammy opposition too and a progressed-progressed opposition perfecting in 6 years but that's only going one way.

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posted June 17, 2016 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh i see, so its just the astro.com

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posted June 17, 2016 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Wow - love this idea, yungang!

I see that my husband's progressed draconic sun is tracking with my progressed sun.

When we got married, his pr draconic sun @ 6 Aqua, pr draconic Mars 9 Aqua, on my 7 Aqua rectified DSC, and his 8 Aqua progressed DSC. My progressed sun 9 Aqua then.

This is a goldmine...so many interesting connections already!


Totally fascinating.

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posted June 17, 2016 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Oh i see, so its just the astro.com

Yes but thank you for pointing it out anyway. Could have easily overlooked it. The progressed draconic angles are very interesting. Our progressed draconic Davison ascendant is conjunct his natal Sun/Moon midpoint 0"05 minutes of orb... and his progressed draconic Venus. The progressed draconic davison Sun is exactly square that ascendant, within 0'01 degree of orb. Not negligible, I'm thinking.

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posted June 17, 2016 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Just noticed my progressed draconic Venus is conjunct my natal Sun/Moon midpoint and HIS progressed draconic Venus is conjunct HIS natal Sun/Moon midpoint... meaning progressed draconic composite Venus is conjunct Composite Sun/Moon midpoint.

THAT's what I would call amazing. Progressed same aspect DW's.


Ow my....

never looked into kitten's DRACONIC chart.. but WT~!

MY draconic Moon: 1'56 Cap
HIS' (it's a 'him' not a 'her' the vet told me!) draco Moon: 1'02 Cap!

(^ which means we both have a NN/Moon square tropically)

my draco Moon in decs: 28'42 S
his draco Moon in decs: 28'39 S

what a big miracle again~!

(the only living being I'm in love with these days is my cat, hence my focus haha)

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posted June 17, 2016 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well what is weird is that in the progressed Draconic composite the Sun/Moon-mp is on 00°00 Libra exact, resulting from pr Sun being on the exact antiscion of pr Moon.


pr Dr Sun 17°11 Cancer; pr Dr Moon on 12°49 Sag

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posted June 17, 2016 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mir:
THAT's what I would call amazing. Progressed same aspect DW's.


Ow my....

never looked into kitten's DRACONIC chart.. but WT~!

MY draconic Moon: 1'56 Cap
HIS' (it's a 'him' not a 'her' the vet told me!) draco Moon: 1'02 Cap!

(^ which means we both have a NN/Moon square tropically)

my draco Moon in decs: 28'42 S
his draco Moon in decs: 28'39 S

what a big miracle again~!

(the only living being I'm in love with these days is my cat, hence my focus haha)


I LOVE your cat posts! Never stop! It's super fascinating. Human centric life gets verrry boring. Other creatures are totally fascinating.

Aww wait.. I'M kinda in love with your kitty right now too... your draco Cappy Moons on my Saturn give me the warm fuzzies... (Saturn likes a moon to cuddle with i hear).

I also like hearing that our progressed d/w seems significant to you that might be a small part of it.

But truly i love hearing about kitty (him). So cool about how your draconics line up and both your moons are square the nodes tropically.

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posted June 17, 2016 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well what is weird is that in the progressed Draconic composite the Sun/Moon-mp is on 00°00 Libra exact, resulting from pr Sun being on the exact antiscion of pr Moon.


pr Dr Sun 17°11 Cancer; pr Dr Moon on 12°49 Sag


I think anything on 0 libra or Aries in the draconic is definitely hugely significant... epic is the key word i would choose for that one.

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posted June 18, 2016 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sighs* I didn`t expect him too but he actually put up another podcast last night (well I figured they wouldn´t have time doing one, as he had been on stage just a few hours prior and having a long travel there). Well he DID seem either tired (which is totally understandable) or sort of "down" for some other reason.

But actually I thought it was almost funny but he was putting this online just a few hours before our Davison solar Return!
(and I was actually listening to it until after 2 a.m., even though I had already been on my way to the bed.)


I will post it actually, but I will post the Draco version!!!
(and the angles seem to be okay in this)

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posted June 18, 2016 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
our Draco DAvison Solar REturn, that has just b?een a few hours old (and truely beautiful to behold -


That line was just in my head, from Rocky HOrror Show and then I looked up the COMPLETE line and it is:

"I`m just seven hours old. Truely beautiful to behold"
And coincidentally our solar return took place about 7-8 hours ago. lol)

Anyway this is it

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as synastry with our Davison

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posted June 18, 2016 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh btw the newsletter on cosmitec states the importance of midpoint pictures that are exact, like 0°00-0°01,
and while I think others are of course valid as well I DID look those up (90° dial only, no semi-things). Though I dd it in the tropical Solar Return and these were the most precise ones here:


MC = Patrick/Valentine 22°31 Aries

Uranus = Patrick/Mars 23°49 Aries

Kerstin = Venus/ASC 20°57 Cancer

Saturn = Neptune = Kerstin/Lilith 12°01 Sag-Pisces

Link = Patrick/Kerstin 22°17 Taurus


So I trace those planets and asteroids back to the basic Davison, and...


SR MC conjunct SN 0°34

SR Kerstin conjunct Moon 0°09

(I don`t quite count them but
SR Saturn conjunct Neptune, opp. Mercury by 2 degrees

SR Neptune opp. Atropos by 1-2 degrees and Psyche by 2 degrees

SR LInk square Vertex by 2 degrees, 4 degrees off the IC as well as Valentine, meaning that it actually falls onto the exact VAlentine/IC-midpoint in our Davison)


I also checked the Venus-Return of our Davison for those exact hits (this was taking place not even a week before we last met)


Samhadi = JUno/Eros 0°11 Libra (there`s the degree again!)
(and actually Samhadi is on the ASC on 1 Libra)

Amor= Patrick/Neptune 14°51 Sag


meaning

VR Samhadi conjunct Kerstin 0°04
(wow, my name is on the ASC of our Venus Return? :eek


VR Amor conjunct Neptune 0°26
VR Amor opposite Mercury 0°23

And then there was the Lunar Return on 7th june, and it is just so obvious that pretty much within 3 days after it he started to put up these podcasts, and well a lot of people "like" them, but it`s mostly us who communicate about them, no matter how superficially.
(well there are one or two more people, but I actually almost started feeling weird, being pretty much the only one commenting, but I just feel I want to say something, and I don`t want to bite the comments back which I did in the past, because I fear I might stand out, or he or his wife or his friend or the whole world might notice I like him more than I should - I guess it might be pretty obvious by now. And I like the subjects the two of them pick. I can talk about films and series and audiobooks for hours, and it was so cute to learn that he also does that "bingewatching".
I mean I always thought I was so weird, but I start out just watching one episode, only one, only one, only .... and next time I look at the clock, it`s like 3 a.m. and I`ve just getting lost in another world. It is sort of reassuring he does it, too. At least I am not the only crazy one. )


anyone the exact hits in our lunar return (tropical again)


Kerstin = Maria/Atropos 17°24 Cancer


MC = Venus/Node 2°15 Leo

Node = Lilith/MC 17°04 Virgo
Node = Kerstin/Amor 17°04 Virgo

Valentine = Mercury/Vertex 22°54 SCorpio
(I guess we enjoy communication, yes. )

Eros= Pluto/ASC 5°39 PIsces

Pluto = Node/Amor 16°55 Cap


And well let`s check the SAbians for those degrees


SR MC
A Pregnant Woman In Light Summer Dress

SR Uranus
Blown Inward By The Wind, The Curtains Of An Open Window Take The Shape Of A Cornucopia


SR Kerstin
A Famous Singer Is Proving Her Virtuosity During An Operatic Performance
Nah, not really


SR Saturn
A Widow’s Past Is Brought To Light

SR Neptune
An Ancient Sword, Used In Many Battles, Is Displayed In A Museum

SR Link
A Jewelry Shop Filled With Valuable Gems

VR Samhadi
In A Collection Of Perfect Specimens Of Many Biological Forms, A Butterfly Displays The Beauty Of Its Wings, Its Body Impaled By A Fine Dart

(the funny thing is that a friend from long long ago used to call me Farfalla - butterfly.
I never really understood why, but it seemed that butterflies were really drawn to me. AS a kid I would always find the dying ones and sort of accompany them in their death, I am not sure why I did that, it just felt right to do. And later butterflies just seem to always sit on my glasses, my head, my hair or wherever just somewhere on th eupper body. Funny, right?)

VR Amor
The Ground Hog Looking For Its Shadow On Ground Hog Day


LR Kerstin
A Hen Scratching The Ground To Find Nourishment For Her Progeny


LR MC
A Middle-Aged Woman, Her Long Hair Flowing Over Her Shoulders And In A Braless Youthful Garment

LR Node
An Ouija Board

LR Valentine
A Rabbit Metamorphoses Into A Nature Sprit

LR Eros
A Parade Of Army Officers In Full Dress

LR Pluto
A Repressed Woman Finds A Psychological Release In Nudism

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posted June 18, 2016 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I LOVE your cat posts! Never stop! It's super fascinating. Human centric life gets verrry boring. Other creatures are totally fascinating.

Aww wait.. I'M kinda in love with your kitty right now too... your draco Cappy Moons on my Saturn give me the warm fuzzies... (Saturn likes a moon to cuddle with i hear).

I also like hearing that our progressed d/w seems significant to you that might be a small part of it.

But truly i love hearing about kitty (him). So cool about how your draconics line up and both your moons are square the nodes tropically.


Haha great to hear yess~!

It's amazing how any world of living beings is so interwoven into our celestial spheres.
And what's more natural and spontaneous than a playful little kitten that suddenly comes along living his life on a daily base with you from that very moment on. Can't be more pure & close and adds an attractive dimension to our star universe compared to the forced, hasty and rational world of humans. So lovely that this little boy chooses me too ;D .. and how proud I am of our exact composite Mars/Uranus opposition (ow yea he so likes to stay and play alone in my -by now- kitten play house where ringing balls and bells and mouses rolling all over the place, he's very clear by now about NOT wanting to come with me to my friend's house every night anymore) ihih, but what a threat scenario would that be to find one with a lover of our own species

Me & kit pic wise are still exposed under my Daily age harmonic thread, for the ones haven't catched a glimpse of us yet lol http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004802.html

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posted June 18, 2016 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir,


Also I sometimes make event chart (just taking the timesensitive angles and Moon into consideration) at certain moments a day when something just slightly noteable happens.


I did so today, too, but this time I placed the event chart in Draconic zodiac and overlaying with the tropical Davison chart and was quite surprised:


Tr Dr ASC conjunct D-Venus exact (and Mars by 2 degrees)

Tr Dr Sun and esp. Venus conjunct D-ASC

Tr Dr LIlith conjunct D-IC (and opp. D-Juno)


Also Tr dr Uranus conjuncts D-Uranus by only 25 minutes.


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posted June 18, 2016 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys

Just noticed when I got kit my progressed draco Moon was conjunct my natal Asc/Merc (asc by 1 deg exact / chart-ruler merc by 0'20).
I Always considered Moon on an angle as a new (birth) significant beginning.

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