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Ceridwen
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posted July 25, 2016 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was Saturn ruling an angle in their composite?

(Well I suppose Pitt has a personal relation with Saturn anyway, as it disposes so many of his personal planets)

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posted July 25, 2016 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW just a little anecdote.


Last year when I was to the fanmeeting of P, there was an applying Moon-Saturn-conjunction in Scorpio (squaring Sun-Jupiter that day).
All the while while that was applying, he would be constantly teasing me about something or just being basically "around" me and putting me into the spotlight somehow.

When this started Tr ASC was on 16 Capricorn (conj. Tr Pluto) right on our composite Venus.
But more importantly it made the Moon-Saturn-conjunction a conjunction of the rulers of the horizon.


When Tr Moon had caught up with Tr Saturn, and was separating by 7 minutes, I left.
Well I left prematurely, as my Dad wanted to pick me up, and I had not thought P would spend so much time with us. After all it was his free day, and I had figured he would have rather be with his family - alone, I mean.
So I was the first one to leave, and he didn`t approve. lol


By the time I left. Tr ASC had of course moved on and was on 20 Aquarius, so Tr Uranus had taken over as ruler of 1st house and no was not really aspecting ruler of 7th house. Though of course traditional ruler of ASC was still Saturn and that was being squared by Sun, ruler of DESC (not just one degree separating), plus Uranus as main ruler of ASC was trine Venus on the DESC.


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posted July 25, 2016 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my past experiences, the TP showed actions when the planets in the TP were connected back to the natal chart. The latest example would be when I bought my dream house in December - TP Venus and Mars were exactly conjunct in the TP chart and both were on top of my natal IC, to the minute

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posted July 25, 2016 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and yes, the ruler of the 1st house in the progressed chart applying in conjunction to the ruler of the 7th house or the DSC itself, usually is a sign of a partnership coming forth.

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posted July 25, 2016 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
In my past experiences, the TP showed actions when the planets in the TP were connected back to the natal chart. The latest example would be when I bought my dream house in December - TP Venus and Mars were exactly conjunct in the TP chart and both were on top of my natal IC, to the minute


Yes I think it should tie back to the natal.

In 2014 I was having a tp new Moon and that was very evident, but it was ALSO conjunct my natal DESC exact.


I guess of those I mentioned I definitely would pay attention to the early august date with

Tp Moon opposite n Mercury and n Sun
- coincidentally the Moon-Sun-opposition peaks at the exact day I am going to see P again on stage

of course tp Moon is very temporary.

And then through august and especially at the end of august

[tp Moon conjunct tp Sun] opposite n Venus.

followed by tp Moon conjunct tp Venus (the opposition of tp Venus to n Venus was exact before though at the beginning of july).

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posted July 25, 2016 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
and yes, the ruler of the 1st house in the progressed chart applying in conjunction to the ruler of the 7th house or the DSC itself, usually is a sign of a partnership coming forth.

Now I just have to find someone who has that same occurrence happening, and whom I feel strong resonance with.

Needle in a haystick I guess. lol

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posted August 07, 2016 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
and yes, the ruler of the 1st house in the progressed chart applying in conjunction to the ruler of the 7th house or the DSC itself, usually is a sign of a partnership coming forth.


What if the rulers of 1st and 7th are in conjunction, but separating aspect?

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posted August 07, 2016 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The separating aspect shows past influence , after 1 degree. Its like the ships has passed

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posted August 08, 2016 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
The separating aspect shows past influence , after 1 degree. Its like the ships has passed

Our conjunction is currently at 0 degree. Does this mean we met at right moment? Will this also mean that, when our conjunction reach 1 degree or higher, we will start separating?

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posted August 08, 2016 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When did you meet, AquaLeo?
So, you basically also confirmed the theory that the rulers are in aspect when two lovers meet or start a relationship.

No, when the aspect starts to separate, that doesn't mean you will separate. The aspect only shows/points that a relationship started, like a timing tool. Hence the thread's title

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posted August 08, 2016 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When did you meet, AquaLeo?
So, you basically also confirmed the theory that the rulers are in aspect when two lovers meet or start a relationship.

No, when the aspect starts to separate, that doesn't mean you will separate. The aspect only shows/points that a relationship started, like a timing tool. Hence the thread's title


Yes, the rulers are in tight conjunction (Venus and Mars) at the start of relationship. This is a great observation/topic, Orange.

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posted August 09, 2016 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow

Angelina and Brad Progressed Composite had an applying Mars - Pluto opposition ( 2 degree, appl) when they started their relationship.
Mars is the Comp 7th house ruler, Pluto is the Progressed 1st house ruler.

When they got married almost 10 years later - the rulers of the 4th and 10th house in the Progressed Composite - Sun and Saturn - were in exact conjunction. Amazing stuff.

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posted September 12, 2016 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drake and Rihanna

Another example of angle rulers in the progressef Composite in aspect when a relationship starts.

Their relationship recently went public at the MTV music awards, he publicly professed his love for her.

Here is their Progressed Composite for now, 1st house and 7 house rulers in this chart are in applying close aspect - Moon and Saturn.

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posted September 12, 2016 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Orange.. I found a square!

Well, I was diving into the charts of Harold Pinter and Antonia Fraser when they first met, just looking for Sun/Moon connections.. it's weird but not finding something special.. still can't believe it (have to look in the conv realm I guess), and then I just saw your thread here and I thought, okay, let's take a look at the prog compo 1st/7th rulers... and to my grreat surprise (astro.com and .theme give the same tob's);

Merc/Jupiter (15'44 gem/sag) as the rulers (8-1-1975);
- prog compo Merc 15'53 Scorp
- prog compo Jup 16'15 Leo

Woooow~!

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posted September 12, 2016 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yessss, Mir...awesome, isnt it.

I've seen some at a wider orb, too, but applying.

Either in the beginning of a relationship or at the wedding time.

Prince Charles and Camilla had the square when they got married ( after 30 years of courting). The Composite 1st and 7th rulers are Sun and Saturn, in their Progressed Composite - the Comp Sun had progressed to 20' Scorpio which was in applying square to the reg Comp Saturn at 22' Leo.

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posted September 13, 2016 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So seems square is not a bad thing to have then.

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posted September 13, 2016 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^
Apparently the hard aspect show action, just like working with midpoints.

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posted September 13, 2016 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, makes, sense, maybe also particularly as the composite is of course a chart of midpoints.


I remember when P and me had our "second first-meeting", the progressed composite had ASC in Pisces, and

pr Mercury on 13°01 Aquarius trine pr Jupiter on 13°36 Gemini and square pr Uranus on 13°40 Scorpio (Uranus rules the natal composite ASC).


Of course this is all long past now.


Well we do have Aries-Libra intercepted in the progressed composite 1st-7th house by now (which started last year, before last year there was no interception there), and we have pr Venus applying to a trine to pr Mars, but still very wide in orb (appr. 5 degrees, and it is a trine, so not a very action-oriented aspect anyway; pr Moon will make a Grand Trine with those somewhen in the next months and actually progress over their midpoint).


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posted September 13, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Prince Charles and Camilla had the square when they got married ( after 30 years of courting). The Composite 1st and 7th rulers are Sun and Saturn, in their Progressed Composite - the Comp Sun had progressed to 20' Scorpio which was in applying square to the reg Comp Saturn at 22' Leo.

And by the time progressed compo Sun reached the exact degree & minute of progressed compo Saturn (traditional regular compo 7th ruler) funnily enough;

June 3-5 2012 - Queen and the nation celebrates the diamond jubilee over three days which includes a pageant on the river Thames.

Her royal apprenticeship was declared well and truly over when last year Camilla sat alongside the Queen on her Diamond Jubilee celebration drive in an open carriage through the streets of London.


foto: Charles and Camilla on the Queen's boat during the Diamond Jubilee river pageant in june 2012.

"Camilla is now truly a part of The Firm, and she’s got the badge to prove it"

3 june 2012;
progressed compo Sun 26'38'37 SCORP
progressed compo Saturn 26'39'20 LEO

See ^, becoming exact exact during the seal of this final stage after which she's finally truly accepted.

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posted September 13, 2016 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir,
I was looking at the reg Composite Saturn ( 22' Leo ) in aspect to the prog comp Sun ( 20' Scorp) at the time of the wedding

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posted September 13, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yesyes I know Orange, and I was simply curious how it would manifest when it (prog compo Sun) would touch the prog compo Saturn. While amazed when finding it that exact during the diamond jubilee and its symbolism.

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