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Topic: Chiron/Planet Interactions in Synastry
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 10, 2016 12:32 PM
I wish I had a thousand years in which to study charts. I have been studying Astrology for seven years. I have made many personal observations about Chiron, but have not seen all aspects, of course.I will try to share my theories, to date. People question who is the "healer"? Who is the one coming to the healer to be healed? We have had many discussions on Linda-goodman.com about this. I think the Chiron goes to the planet person for healing. I think that the "expectation"(usually subconscious) of the Chiron person is that the planet person will heal them. The nature of the planets can show us the TYPE of healing.
If Chiron conjuncts Venus, the Chiron person may be looking for healing through love. If the Chiron conjuncts the Sun, the person may be looking at healing of his ego. If the Chiron conjuncts Mars, the person may be looking for healing/help with his drives, ambitions or passions. I have had some personal experiences with Chiron in synastry and I will share those, now.
My Venus Conjunct her Chiron( which was in the 12th House) In this case, I went to her for healing. She was a friend. Her 12th House Chiron shows us that her pain tended to be HIDDEN from her. When this happens, someone else can "prick" it and it can come flooding out and be too much for the Chiron person. However, that is not germane to this article. I say it for interest. I thought I had found my BBF(Best Friend Forever). Chiron in synasty makes one feel this way. It is classic for a Chiron relationship.
She and I got very close for a long period of time. Then, we had a minor misunderstanding and it blew up to nuclear proportions. This is, also, classic for a Chiron relationship. After the blow up, it is very hard, close to impossible, to restore the friendship. My Chiron Conjunct His Saturn He came to me for healing. He needed someone to nurture him. We were platonic friends, only. I felt like I had found a lifetime friend, once again.WE got very close in a very short time, which is a classic trait of a Chiron relationship. Then, we had a small misunderstanding and he ran away. I cannot remember what it was. I tried to reach out to him, but he had shut the door. His Venus Conjunct my Chiron This is a relationship with a close family member. WE have an amazing relationship, but he feels I do not love him in the way that he wants. He feels I do not give him enough attention. He gets his feelings hurt a lot. This is one thread in an otherwise great relationship. However, this relationship started me to look at Chiron in synastry closer and hence, write this article. My Chiron conjunt her Nessus This is the "end all" Nessus relationship. I am embarrassed to even tell the story. This is with a girlfriend. We started off as friends. Then, we got into a fight and were enemies(YES, I say things in a direct way). Then, we became friends again. This time, it was even closer. Again, I felt I found a BFF. In this relationship, I had relationship that reminded her of her abusive boyfriend. It was the same, but I did not know it at the time. She became very angry at me that I would not see that this man was abusive. She pulled away from me, entirely, and I could never restore the relationship. In hindsight, she was right about the man. The funny part is this. She told me not to contact her again or she would call the police. I texted her. The next phone call that came was the police. I didn't answer and hung up. Nessus will kill you wherever you find it :P Her Mercury/Sun combust Conjunct my Chiron This is a family member. Mercury/Sun combust is very powerful. The person may be very self centered, not through any fault of her own. Her inner world is very insular. I hope that is a clear way of saying it. This person finds it hard to get out of her own way. She hurts badly because it is very hard to detach. Hence, if someone insults her or does not like her, it hurts very badly. Hence, she may(and often does lash out. This is my experience with Mercury in close combust to the Sun. Now, when we add Chiron to the mix, we have nuclear intensity. Think Hurricane Katrina.In this case, the Mercury/Sun person wanted me, the Chiron person, to heal her. She got very angry when I could not. This relationship is long term, with many long gaps of no contact. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 10, 2016 12:33 PM
This is not edited right.My web site is being screwy, so I wanted to put it on here before I lost it lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 2858 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted September 10, 2016 01:03 PM
loved your article like always! how would you describe the square with someone? and the opposition? ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 2137 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 10, 2016 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne:
My Chiron conjunt her NessusThis is the "end all" Nessus relationship. I am embarrassed to even tell the story. This is with a girlfriend. We started off as friends. Then, we got into a fight and were enemies(YES, I say things in a direct way). Then, we became friends again. This time, it was even closer. Again, I felt I found a BFF. In this relationship, I had relationship that reminded her of her abusive boyfriend. It was the same, but I did not know it at the time. She became very angry at me that I would not see that this man was abusive. She pulled away from me, entirely, and I could never restore the relationship. In hindsight, she was right about the man. The funny part is this. She told me not to contact her again or she would call the police. I texted her. The next phone call that came was the police. I didn't answer and hung up. Nessus will kill you wherever you find it :P
Wow, that's really something. Weirdly enough, I was on both sides of this friend equation. Never went to the police though, but we had major fights/cold wars about this. It's very hard to see your friend with an abusive man and, well, you can't really do much about it. Can get very frustrating indeed. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 10, 2016 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by angel4845: loved your article like always! how would you describe the square with someone? and the opposition?
Thank you, A. Love you! I don't deal with the squares and oppositions in articles like this cuz it seems to really muddy the water. In charts, also, I look for close conjunctions first because they are the most powerful. HOWEVER, when we get to the hard aspects, the struggles of Chiron get much harder and much more locked in. I should do an article on them cuz by the time I explain, I will have written it lol My website is eating up my articles. I write them and they go into the Galactic Center. I called the web guy and will do it as soon as I can. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 10, 2016 04:31 PM
Yes EI think Chiron alone can predict the nature of a relationship, especially exact conjunctions, which HIGHLIGHT to us that we must stop and take note. The funny thing is that that which eventually repels us, our intense closeness, was that which brought us together. I call Chiron a mobius strip. It goes in whacky ways ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2016 04:59 PM
Ami, my jaw dropped reading your Chiron conjunct Her Nessus story. You and Chiron, girl!
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 10, 2016 05:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Ami, my jaw dropped reading your Chiron conjunct Her Nessus story. You and Chiron, girl!
Yea, B lol Watch Chiron, especially when they are exact conjunctions that seem "strange" like how can be Venus be exactly conjunct someone's Chiron. Chiron relationships seem to call us and then repel us. It is a fascinating study! I want to say how much it means to me that we are friends, too. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2016 05:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Yea, B lolWatch Chiron, especially when they are exact conjunctions that seem "strange" like how can be Venus be exactly conjunct someone's Chiron. Chiron relationships seem to call us and then repel us. It is a fascinating study! I want to say how much it means to me that we are friends, too.
Aww. I love you too. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2016 08:11 PM
Ami, I know this is a thread about Chiron conjunct planets, but what is your take on Chiron conjunct Ascendant in Synastry? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 10, 2016 08:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Ami, I know this is a thread about Chiron conjunct planets, but what is your take on Chiron conjunct Ascendant in Synastry?
I am so Pro Chiron's importance cuz I had a long term relationship that started before I studied Astrology.
His Chiron conj my NN exact and he brought me PAIN. I just don't fool around with Chiron in the synastry charts lol I think the Chiron person would bring pain to the ASC person in the realm of the daily life of the ASC person. Let me think of an example. Maybe, the Chiron person could bring pain to the ASC person about how the ASC person looks. Perhaps, the Chiron person could cause pain in some area of the daily routines of the ASC person. I look at close orbs, too. If Chiron touches anything closely, I would run lol When I say Chiron conj the NN has a Pain Theme, I mean it cuz I lived it lol The Chiron person brings the pain to the NN person. In other aspects, the planet person seems to bring the pain to the Chiron person. With the angles, I think the Chiron person brings the pain. That is what I think currently anyway. Charts are, always, my teachers and I modify my working theories when information refutes them That is why I do charts like I do. I spend 5 days with a natal chart and a week with the synastry. The excitement for me is learning from that person how her chart plays out. If I had to just do charts as a robot and never get to talk to people, I would not do it. It would not be any fun for me. The fun is getting to know the people behind the charts and seeing how the charts play out in real life. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2016 08:27 PM
^^^ Well, I had the Chiron Conjunct Ascendant with someone where I was the Ascendant. Orb was very tight. And I have to say that it was the most painful relationship of my life. I mean, even though this person was no longer in my life, the pain lasted FOR YEARS. I thought it would never end, but it did end finally. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 10, 2016 08:34 PM
Thanks for sharing, B xxx ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2016 09:09 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 10, 2016 09:35 PM
I changed my post cuz I sensed you did not want to talk about it, B.let me ask you a few questions, if I can. I can delete this, if you want, too. This angst you have does not sound like Chiron to me. It sounds like Moon/Pluto and/or Nessus/Deja. What did the Comp show, too? Would a marriage be different than a relationship before marriage? ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2016 10:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I changed my post cuz I sensed you did not want to talk about it, B.let me ask you a few questions, if I can. I can delete this, if you want, too. This angst you have does not sound like Chiron to me. It sounds like Moon/Pluto and/or Nessus/Deja. What did the Comp show, too? Would a marriage be different than a relationship before marriage?
You're very perceptive. Yeah, I didn't want to talk about it, and I ended up rewriting my post 5 times before posting it. Anyway, we really didn't have important Pluto moon aspects, other than my pluto was quincunx his moon. Nessus/Deja: Interesting you should ask. In the synastry, these planets didn't seem connected to anything, but in the composite, Nessus was exactly opposite Dejanira!!! i am just noticing this now! In the composite, sun was square Pluto. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 10, 2016 10:22 PM
Also in composite:our namesake asteroids are opposite!! Asteroid Amor and Boda are conjunct, but opposite Union! Which indicates that love marriage was wanted but not meant to happen. And lastly, I just noticed for the first time that in composite, Dejanira is conjunct Venus, and this conjunction is opposite Nessus!!! So perhaps you're right, this seemed to have been a Nessus Dejanira pain type of relationship.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 11, 2016 09:15 AM
BIn my experience, that deep, deep heart angst is not Chiron but Nessus/Deja and Moon/Pluto. If it makes you feel better, I don't think that Comp would have been a happy marriage. Maybe, down deep, you knew this and pulled away due to a deep knowing xoxo ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 11, 2016 10:19 AM
I have never seen a nessus/deja synastry or comp have a happy relationship, even if it lasted.I speak from experience lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 11, 2016 11:43 AM
^^^ Good to know, Ami. You're most likely right. I appreciate your feedback. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 11, 2016 05:40 PM
YW BNessus/deja relationships seem to have this particular angst you describe like your breath resides in his body lol They are sooo intense and sooo passionate and sooooo intimate that they seem to blow themselves up and the ending is not usually good lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 2405 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 14, 2016 01:26 AM
I guess Nessus vs Dejanira is about dying in some way, maybe even more painfully than Pluto stuff. Now that the pain is gone, Halleluja, something in me has died. T know I will NEVER be hurt like this again so I am in a really peaceful place now. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68971 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 14, 2016 10:25 AM
YES, B, very insightful. Something does seem to die.I, finally, got over my Nessus person. I still think about him and when I do, I feel he knows. I feel he checks up on me, in his own way lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6637 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 15, 2016 01:41 AM
To add to your data, Ami, I'm dealing with another Chironic thing.On top of our SUN quindecile SUN (0°) we've got his CHIRON opposite my PLUTO/BML (0°) and SUN (2°). His SUN's not on my CHIRON, thankfully, but it is parallel. It seems nothing can be simple, quick, or easy between us. We breathe on each other and open wounds. We also can't just leave one another be, either. We know there's something here, even if it's painful. So, I think we're both trying to tread carefully. Thank God we're not available for a romantic relationship, or I'm not sure I would have ever been able to relax around him! He unnerves me, though he doesn't mean to. There's just SO MUCH going on under the surface. That's so very Chiron. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5058 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 15, 2016 01:53 AM
I have tropic Chiron conjunct draco Venus which conjuncts my husband's asteroid knight. My heart was broken and he helped me heal.IP: Logged | |