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Topic: Marriage synastry. Asc/Dsc to planets in the same sign or conjunctions.
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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 15, 2016 10:50 AM
  
Please check for me if in your long-term relationship or marriage synastries you have either:1) Planets of your partner in the sign of your Asc or Dsc and vice versa. 2) Conjunctions of planets to Asc/Dsc, his to yours and vice versa. Testing the theory that if these are missing then relationship will not lead to marriage. IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted September 15, 2016 12:38 PM
I had an ac/dc angle conjunction in synastry. My Jupiter conjunct his ac. His bml conjunct my Ceres in my first house. That's it.Married for 15 years together for 18. Divorced last year. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 15, 2016 12:48 PM
my parents have that one way, too.my Mom`s Venus-Mars conjunct my Dad`s Saturn-ASC.
my best friend and her husband have it one way, too.
his Sun-ASC conjunct her DESC.
And my brother and his girlfriend, also one way.
her Sun conjunct his ASC and her Moon conjunct his DESC.
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Gemini Blues
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posted September 15, 2016 01:31 PM
Her Venus and Asc conjunct my aVx
My Mercury and Vertex conjunct her DC
Thus competing a grand cross for us both.And a bazillion others including moon opp Saturn DW. Um, yeah... we got married. And stuff. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 15, 2016 01:48 PM
GB, what house (Placidus) does Mercury rule in your chart? IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 15, 2016 02:08 PM
I think it doesn't have to be both ways. The point is if there are no planets to Asc/Dsc connections or planets in the signs of Asc/Dsc at all (at least from one partner) then it's unlikely relationship will be long-lasting or that people will get married.I was in a long-term relationship (7 years) and then got married but soon divorced with someone whose Asc was conjunct my Moon and Mars. IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted September 15, 2016 02:19 PM
So are you speaking of planets falling in the 1st or 7th house or conjunctions only to planets in the 1st or 7th. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 15, 2016 02:33 PM
Conjunctions to Asc/Dsc. You can actually have conjunctions from 6H to Dsc and from 12H to Asc so houses are not so important maybe. Look for 1) conjunctions to Asc/Dsc and 2) Asc/Dsc in same sign as partner's Moon, Venus, Sun or Mars. IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted September 15, 2016 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Conjunctions to Asc/Dsc. You can actually have conjunctions from 6H to Dsc and from 12H to Asc so houses are not so important maybe. Look for 1) conjunctions to Asc/Dsc and 2) Asc/Dsc in same sign as partner's Moon, Venus, Sun or Mars.
What orb are you speculating with when it comes to conjunctions to the ac/dc angles? Also, are you saying the alternative theory is to have lets say, mars in Scorpio falling in the others Scorpio ac or dc house? I just wonder...i would think the binding of the relationship would be stronger the closer you get to the angles. Although I can imagine there would be ties with just having the signs of planets and angles in sync. IP: Logged |
ReeseC
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posted September 15, 2016 03:53 PM
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Gemini Blues
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posted September 15, 2016 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
GB, what house (Placidus) does Mercury rule in your chart?
Mercury and Sun in Gemini/8th. Technically it doesn't rule (well it rules the 11th for Virgo) because Gemini is intercepted. But it is the final depositor IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 15, 2016 05:19 PM
llewsacm,it's not really my theory. This is something I've read in the book by Lois Haines Sargent called How to Handle Your Human Relations. As for house overlays, I think when we look at our Dsc sign, it's not just that specific degree of Dsc sign that personifies our ideal mate. It's the whole sign, also the intercepted sign in the 7H. So of course somebody's Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars falling in our 7H is a big deal. But I feel that would be secondary to Dsc conjunctions. Same goes for Asc. I just feel like conjunctions to these angles act like glue, similar to Saturn aspects - they draw us in for the long-haul. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 15, 2016 05:22 PM
So far everyone who replied confirmed this theory to be true.IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted September 15, 2016 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
llewsacm,it's not really my theory. This is something I've read in the book by Lois Haines Sargent called How to Handle Your Human Relations. As for house overlays, I think when we look at our Dsc sign, it's not just that specific degree of Dsc sign that personifies our ideal mate. It's the whole sign, also the intercepted sign in the 7H. So of course somebody's Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars falling in our 7H is a big deal. But I feel that would be secondary to Dsc conjunctions. Same goes for Asc. I just feel like conjunctions to these angles act like glue, similar to Saturn aspects - they draw us in for the long-haul.
Yes many have looked at the angles in past research and binding aspects. For good or bad...lol. But we are drawn into what the other has to offer all the same. I wonder though if there are other factors involving marriage or long term without direct angle activation to the ac/dc. Like if we have any examples from the community to share...which is what I think you are after? I'm curious about this. Say, no angle activation but strong tight aspects to venus/saturn just for one example. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 15, 2016 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
I wonder though if there are other factors involving marriage or long term without direct angle activation to the ac/dc. Like if we have any examples from the community to share...which is what I think you are after? I'm curious about this. Say, no angle activation but strong tight aspects to venus/saturn just for one example.
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EmGem
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posted September 16, 2016 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Yes many have looked at the angles in past research and binding aspects. For good or bad...lol. But we are drawn into what the other has to offer all the same. I wonder though if there are other factors involving marriage or long term without direct angle activation to the ac/dc. Like if we have any examples from the community to share...which is what I think you are after? I'm curious about this. Say, no angle activation but strong tight aspects to venus/saturn just for one example.
And the nodes perhaps IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted September 16, 2016 01:12 AM
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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 16, 2016 05:33 PM
girlwiththerainysoul,Fascinating!  So many proposals what's a girl to do! I bet its your Jupiter conjunct the Asc that's the culprit. About your best friends. Do you have Venus to Venus aspects with them? Or in compatible signs? Guy N1. I feel sorry for all those with Moon in Aries. They really know how to hurt others Unintentionally. And they never understand what they did or said wrong. Must be hard for them if you think about it. Thanks for sharing your life connections! Very interesting to read. It looks like you really need other's planets in your 7H for you to take them seriously AND also their chart to mirror yours (by way of aspects/house placements/angles etc) IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted September 16, 2016 09:19 PM
a long time married couple: my parents. they are happily married for 26 years, but they also fight over many things and see things completely differently. they weren't in love when they married, but their bond is very strong and they're very attached to one another. I am not sure I want to have a relationship like theirs though, as strong as it may be.my mother
. sun conjunct pluto in virgo
. moon in gemini
. mars in cancer
. venus in libra
. AC gemini my father:
. sun scorpio
. moon conjunct pluto in virgo cojunct my mother's sun/pluto and square my mother's moon
. venus in libra conjunct my mom's
. mars in scorpio
. AC sagittarius
. my mother's venus conjunct his MC my mother has moon and mars in his 7th, he has nothing in her 7th. he has chiron opposite my mother's sun and my mother has chiron opposite his moon. So this doesn't fit the angle activation theory. Unless of course the ac/dc angles are flipped and conjunct? IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted September 16, 2016 09:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by llewsacm:
a long time married couple: my parents. they are happily married for 26 years, but they also fight over many things and see things completely differently. they weren't in love when they married, but their bond is very strong and they're very attached to one another. I am not sure I want to have a relationship like theirs though, as strong as it may be.my mother
. sun conjunct pluto in virgo
. moon in gemini
. mars in cancer
. venus in libra
. AC gemini my father:
. sun scorpio
. moon conjunct pluto in virgo cojunct my mother's sun/pluto and square my mother's moon
. venus in libra conjunct my mom's
. mars in scorpio
. AC sagittarius
. my mother's venus conjunct his MC my mother has moon and mars in his 7th, he has nothing in her 7th. he has chiron opposite my mother's sun and my mother has chiron opposite his moon. So this doesn't fit the angle activation theory. Unless of course the ac/dc angles are flipped and conjunct?
Why not? She's Asc Gemini, he's Dsc Gemini. It's perfect. IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted September 16, 2016 10:08 PM
Yeah, but it can be 10 degrees off for example. We don't know the degrees to confirm angle activation. I'm testing the theory alongside you...i dont want to assume anything. 😊 IP: Logged |
Faery
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posted September 16, 2016 10:23 PM
My Venus is exactly conjunct my husbands asc.
His moon is in the same sign as my dsc but not conjunct (in my 6th). His Uranus and Neptune are also in the same sign as my dsc but really, really loosely conjunct it.IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted September 17, 2016 01:06 AM
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted September 17, 2016 02:09 AM
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So this doesn't fit the angle activation theory. Unless of course the ac/dc angles are flipped and conjunct? [/B]
I guess you are right. I have it with a best friend too (our AC/DC axis exactly opposite) IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted September 17, 2016 02:25 AM
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