posted September 24, 2016 09:35 AM            

Example:

Your Venus is in Aquarius and the other person aspects that Venus with their Uranus (or possibly ven Saturn).

How does this feel for you?

I think it`s probably mostly interesting for people with planets in (Aries), Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius or Pisces.

For my parents for example:

my Mom`s Mercury in Scorpio squared by Dad`s Pluto - they have very profound and deep discussions, and sometimes bystander feel a little freaked out about that, but for them it seems to satisfy a certain need actually. So there is no real mental powerplay going on, just a matching of power maybe.

posted September 24, 2016 10:03 AM            

I'll think about this and report back.

(Later...I'm back)

My husband's Uranus opposes my Aquarius Mercury on the DSC (rectified chart).

In the beginning I just couldn't believe anyone could be that smart. I remember driving to the beach with him on an early date, and he was explaining stuff as we passed it in the car, talking about the telephone lines, satellite dishes, bridges...like everything I saw with dumb eyes, he saw with intelligence and understanding, in depth. Opened up my world that way.

Because of the opposition I was linked to it. Even though he still talks over my head all the time, it's comforting background noise, lol. Someone is there teaching and caring that I expand my worldview.

Also I think he learns from me, both normally and psychically (my Scorpio Uranus squares his sun-Uranus.) So he ends up taking ideas from me, expanding on them, and presenting them back with more detail and his own personal twist.

posted September 24, 2016 10:41 AM            

Yes, that is how I can imagine it playing out.
While for others the Uranus-aspects might only be crazy making, you might at least at times, welcome it, because you are receptive to it.

It is still crazy making for you, but with an Uranian Mercury you might NEED to be made crazy like this. To a point at least.

On the downside, it might get a little too uranian at times. lol Like a double dose. And of course it might be that a more stuffy environment will respond to this with non-understanding, no matter if you vibe rather well on this area with each other.

I think Paul Newman and his wife had something like that as well?

They had the dreaded Mars-Saturn-square in their synastry, and well I have seen it creating havoc and suppression, but I also have seen this one in well working relationships. Of course the whole context needs to be take into consideration.

However I thought it was interesting that Saturn is the (traditional) dispositor of her Mars and she met Saturn in him again (through square).

And the other aspects Moon-opposite Neptune. Her Neptune closely opposing his Moon - yes it can be compassionate, spiritual, imaginative, creative - but it also could have been delusional, evasive, avoidant, erosive of the emotional connection, and just not made to be brought down to physical reality (their Capricorn-planets and Saturn aspects of course were a counter-medicine as well!!!!!)

However interestingly he had a Pisces Moon, which was opposing her Neptune.

Might this dispositor thing be a reason I am not fearful of harsh Saturn-aspects, because my enus is in Capricorn?
Or that I actually like Saturn and Uranus aspecting my Moon, even in such dreaded scenarios like square or opposition?
With both of them dispositing my Moon?

posted September 24, 2016 11:06 AM            

I was just researching Paul Newman and his wife yesterday...their draconics. Might be a little off topic but if you were just looking at their synastry and it's fresh in your mind, I must put the cherries on top:

3 Aqua, Joanne's draconic sun
6 Aqua, Paul's sun
8 Aqua, Joannes's draconic Venus

9 Cap, Joanne's Saturn
10 Cap, Joanne's draconic Mercury
13 Cap, Paul's Mercury

11 Cap, Joanne's draconic Mars
14 Cap, Paul's Venus

0 Virgo, Paul's draconic Venus
2 Virgo, Joanne's Neptune

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They had the dreaded Mars-Saturn-square in their synastry, and well I have seen it creating havoc and suppression, but I also have seen this one in well working relationships. Of course the whole context needs to be take into consideration.

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Yes...well maybe her draconic Mars being conjunct her own Saturn gave her a feel for Mars-Saturn within, which sought an externalization through synastry. (?) Something like that.

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Might this dispositor thing be a reason I am not fearful of harsh Saturn-aspects, because my enus is in Capricorn?

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I would think so.

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Or that I actually like Saturn and Uranus aspecting my Moon, even in such dreaded scenarios like square or opposition?
With both of them dispositing my Moon?

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Eesh, I don't know, I can't imagine anyone enjoying Saturn or Uranus squaring their moon. You like that? Maybe it would get oppressive (Saturn) or too frazzling (Uranus) over time, though?

But hey nothing is perfect.

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I remember for a time I had a thing for guys with Moon in end of Libra, beginning of scorpio, conjunct my Uranus.

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For some reason I cannot imagine you liking a Libra moon. This is news to me!

One reason I like Aqua moons: you surprise me!

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Another note about myself, you know my Pisces moon squares the Neptune of my contemporaries, and I've never given that much thought, at least not from their end. I know why I confuse myself, but how do they perceive me?

....time elapses

K, I don't want to read that again, it's creepy.

All this clingy, vulnerability, dreamy stuff. So my Cap sun gags and we change the subject...

posted September 24, 2016 11:53 AM            

His Taurus Sun square my Venus (by 1 deg)

And what about trines...

His Moon in Aqua trine my Uranus (0) - most exact we have in syna.
His Venus in Pisces trine my Neptune (1,5)

^ it's all from HIS side .. (now I think about it)

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posted September 24, 2016 12:26 PM            

made me think about my synastry.

we do have a few of those, actually - all of his planets.

His Moon in Virgo conjuncts my Mercury, exact.
His Moon in Virgo, which is nauseate, is understood by my Mercury ( which is my Sun and Moon ruler btw) We get each other's quirks.

His Saturn in Libra conjuncts my Venus tightly.
His Saturn is unbearable, but I kinda get it, I am like ~ Alright, then..~

His Mars in Libra conjuncts my Venus (widely).

His Venus in Pisces squares my Neptune tightly (my chart ruler).

posted September 25, 2016 06:26 AM            

yes, some years ago I was checking their Dracos (and Cashs and Carters) - they do invariably come up strong in those relationships.

"Yes...well maybe her draconic Mars being conjunct her own Saturn gave her a feel for Mars-Saturn within, which sought an externalization through synastry. (?) Something like that."
Yes, I definitely think that. The synastry must have made her aware of that being a part of her, there was a strong resonance coupled with the feeling of "this is where I am meant to go".

Hmm good point. I don`t have very strong Draco-tropical overlays in my own natal, however, I do notice that my Draconic Moon is very closely conjunct my tropical DESC - which might explain why I am drawn to men`s Moon in particular, or let`s put it this way, that the men`s Moon is usually making strong aspects to my chart including Sun.

my Draconic Saturn is falling onto my tropical Eros/Psyche-mp-axis and opposing my Part of Marriage and asteroid Actor - so my South nodal Saturn is resonating highly with those points in Taurus for me, in my 5th house of course.

my tropical Saturn is not conjunct any Draconic planet as far as I can remember, though it is very closely squaring Draco Sun. Not sure if that would have any meaning. Though if a planet squaring the nodal axis int ropical is considered a skipped step, wouldn`t a planet being squaring a Draconic planet represent a skipped step as well?
As the Draco planets always carry the nodal symbolism with them?

Would at least make sense why I seem to be so drawn to the Saturn-Sun-square in my synastries. lol I guess I just like the challenging ones.

"Eesh, I don't know, I can't imagine anyone enjoying Saturn or Uranus squaring their moon. You like that? "
Yes, I do. Because despite complaining I like being pushed out of my comfort zone. I complain a lot about it, it freaks me out, and silently I thrive on it and it makes me feel alive, like I have somewhere to go, something to develop, something to learn.

It`s not easy all of the times, but it feels very satisfying. Because that is what my little detached moon is satisfied with, being shocked and startled out of its routine, and yet finding and applying a sense and structure to the chaotic and irrational. And finding a sense of safety within feeling insecure and on edge. (Moon in Aqua quinkunx Saturn parallel Uranus and contraparallel Pluto probably does that to you. lol)

It`s not easy. I withdraw. I pout. I revolt. But I love it all the same.

Frankly, I think if something were just smooth sailing on an emotional level, it would bore me to death within a few days.

" you liking a Libra moon. This is news to me!"
I once had a time I even liked LIbra boys. But that has been long ago. I like my Libra-Moons with Uranian flavour though, or Plutonian; in this one instance Saturnian flavour would not be enough, without Uranus or Pluto infused, as there needs to be something that is different than the status quo (and Libra/Capricorn are too stylized and classical and status quo if being left on their own).

"One reason I like Aqua moons: you surprise me!"
Haha, I love that!

"I know why I confuse myself, but how do they perceive me?"
Elusive sometimes? Compassionate, imaginate, hard to grasp, confusing, sometimes hidden behind some kidn of fog.

Well I don`t see you as nebulous, but I think my Neptune is out of orb for squaring your Moon anyway.

Plus you do not only have a compassionate sensitive, elusive Pisces-Moon, but that grounded Cap sun together with the zany Aqua-Mercury, and the openminded Sag-Venus. I like that mix!

But I seem to mostly like transpersonal signs anyway, the exception being Aries and Virgo, who really get to me as well, though usually infused with some transpersonal energies as well. And Aries and Virgo makes sense in terms of my DRaco chart anyway.

posted September 25, 2016 06:53 AM            

that is quite a list! lol

Though I am wondering about the planet-sign-dispositor thing - is it really MUTUAL?

I donīt know if it`s the case, and maybe it`s hairsplitting, but I could imagine that it`s the planet in sign that resonates mostly with being aspected by its own dispositor.

for example someone`s Moon in Virgo has an emotional resonance with Mercury, and needs this kind of energy to feel understood, safe, etc. (whatever Moon feels), and if someone else provides Mercury to their Moon, they feel like they got what they need from the other person, even if it might be stressing them at times.

But I am not so sure it`s true from the other side.
Though they might react positive, realizing they provide something the other person needs, and hence feel important and valuable and needed, and that might inspire positive feelings in them as well.

of course it is just one mini detail. lol

posted September 25, 2016 10:35 AM            

"yes, some years ago I was checking their Dracos (and Cashs and Carters) - they do invariably come up strong in those relationships."

I want to make a research thread showcasing all of it...trying to vindicate draconics. So far I've only done Paul and Joanne through. Gotta build momentum.

"The synastry must have made her aware of that being a part of her, there was a strong resonance coupled with the feeling of "this is where I am meant to go"."

Yes...well I have the same thing I guess: my draconic Saturn is conjunct my tropical Venus and Neptune, and my husband's Saturn conjunct them as well (conjunct my draco Saturn of course.)

"I don`t have very strong Draco-tropical overlays in my own natal, however, I do notice that my Draconic Moon is very closely conjunct my tropical DESC - which might explain why I am drawn to men`s Moon in particular, or let`s put it this way, that the men`s Moon is usually making strong aspects to my chart including Sun."

Makes sense!

My draco chart overlaps my tropical all over the place, so I'm just swamped with information. Maybe that's why I was always so boy crazy. Needed a lot of different experiences to fulfill my destiny! LOL

No, I'm kidding...I dreamed a lot but did very little about it. Possibly because of what I said above, draco Saturn is conjunct my Venus.

"my Draconic Saturn is falling onto my tropical Eros/Psyche-mp-axis and opposing my Part of Marriage and asteroid Actor - so my South nodal Saturn is resonating highly with those points in Taurus for me, in my 5th house of course."

Ugh that's a little hard for me to visualize without charts but the words swirl together and give a poetic vibration.

"my tropical Saturn is not conjunct any Draconic planet as far as I can remember, though it is very closely squaring Draco Sun."

And again, it's a moon issue, since your Saturn is in Cancer. Maybe this has contributed to your preferences for some distance. (?)

"Though if a planet squaring the nodal axis int ropical is considered a skipped step, wouldn`t a planet being squaring a Draconic planet represent a skipped step as well?
As the Draco planets always carry the nodal symbolism with them?"

Yes I tend to think that way. Well my draconic Venus is square my tropical sun, and I could pin a lot of heartache on that if I were so inclined...

"Would at least make sense why I seem to be so drawn to the Saturn-Sun-square in my synastries. lol I guess I just like the challenging ones."

"...I thrive on it and it makes me feel alive, like I have somewhere to go, something to develop, something to learn."

That's lovely. And even though you interact with your guy quite a bit, it reminds me of my potential to feel better just by admiring from a distance....like I miss the days when I was all wrapped up in Elvis and feeling so much from so little. Like walking in the mall and hearing Blue Christmas became a transcendental experience. But it was REAL, it made me happy.

I need a new celebrity crush.

Recommendations?

"Because that is what my little detached moon is satisfied with, being shocked and startled out of its routine, and yet finding and applying a sense and structure to the chaotic and irrational. And finding a sense of safety within feeling insecure and on edge. (Moon in Aqua quinkunx Saturn parallel Uranus and contraparallel Pluto probably does that to you. lol)"

That describes you so perfectly.

"Frankly, I think if something were just smooth sailing on an emotional level, it would bore me to death within a few days."

I would be absolutely enthralled with the novelty of such an experience! Like, Whoa it can actually be like this?????

Also, still waters run deep. My ex and I looked boring to other people but the slightest gesture was loaded with meaning.

"Plus you do not only have a compassionate sensitive, elusive Pisces-Moon, but that grounded Cap sun together with the zany Aqua-Mercury, and the openminded Sag-Venus. I like that mix!"

Thanks! To me it just feels like non-stop weirdo. Or like a busy Picasso painting. Nice to stroll by in a museum, but disruptive to keep in your living room. LOL

"And Aries and Virgo makes sense in terms of my DRaco chart anyway."

posted September 25, 2016 11:32 AM            

Ha I found my very first post on them! EXACTLY 10 years ago.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010593.html

" my draconic Saturn is conjunct my tropical Venus and Neptune, and my husband's Saturn conjunct them as well (conjunct my draco Saturn of course.)"
makes sense to me!

"Ugh that's a little hard for me to visualize without charts but the words swirl together and give a poetic vibration. "
Yeah, well maybe it`s not important anyway.

"And even though you interact with your guy quite a bit, it reminds me of my potential to feel better just by admiring from a distance...."
Yes, of course! There is a lot of distance.
No touching, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThJJHdL6VpU

"ike walking in the mall and hearing Blue Christmas became a transcendental experience."
haha, that`s how life should be ALWAYS!

"I need a new celebrity crush.

Recommendations?"

How about?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BinKoydMkk

though I am not sure I want to really share him... then on the other hand, oh damn it, he really has been growing on me over the last days.
CAn`t have that now.

So take him, keep him and most of all keep him out of my sight, out of my ears and out of my heart.

Damn it where is an Aqua Moon if you need her?

Too much freaking Venus-Pluto right now I guess.

"I would be absolutely enthralled with the novelty of such an experience! Like, Whoa it can actually be like this?????"
P sort of belongs into thta category, which must sounds very hysterical or like I am having a nervous breakdown. But it`s true, part of the fascination was how much LIGHT he was radiating and hhow much down to earth physicality there was, the Here and now and how much this fascinated me! This was new, it still feels news. Of course by now I have become aquaintained with our Venus-Pluto square in composite.
Even the brightness and sunniness seems to have a way to hook into my soul.
But it was just very different from my usual taste of let`s call it dark-romance, you know the Victorian thing. But thatīs not for real life.

"What do you have in draco Virgo?"
DESC.