posted October 16, 2016 12:40 PM            

She did leave him for a reason..

It happened to me though. She saw us happy and wanted him back. And now here we are at the present... it's a long story... I don't have time at the moment and I hope it's ok I referenced details of your post, I can take this down when you see it if you like. I know it helps to have someone to talk to, and girl I've BEEN THERE.

posted October 16, 2016 12:48 PM            

Compete if you must. Do whatever you need to do to play the game of life impeccably, but know there is a core.part of you which is just like the core part of everybody else, and is silence, is bliss, is the whole blessed universe. Forgive, and love, and be happy, because the chances we get to enjoy our loved one's presence are the most important things in life.

None of the circumstances matter that much, the labels... etc. If you love somebody, be happy for them being truly happy, and encourage them to be free to express everything. It will come out sooner or later explosively if repressed with shame.

Be grateful for every moment, and if he starts being unkind in any way, I would indeed advise a healthy whole hearted loving retreat. That's coming from somebody who has put up with too much crap... but too much is too much to say... it was needed for me to go through it, it was a sacred mirror and a karma balancing thing I guess (that's triggering, at this point, that karma word!!!).

You do not deserve to suffer.

Detach from egoic suffering and watch impassively, dweling in the peacein your heart. You will see it all arise, you might even participate, but hold yourself gently and lovingly throughout, keep perspective, know you are free to walk away and you are free to stay and communicate.

posted October 16, 2016 02:29 PM            

she is his ex for a reason!

posted October 16, 2016 02:38 PM            

This will never be allowed under my watch. This sounds like mental and emotional abuse to me.
Ex's stay in the past where they belong.

posted October 16, 2016 03:23 PM            

We can't just disallow our partners to have a past, to have other loves. Or... We can! Obviously. It just has certain results, usually the opposite of what we really want, which is their complete devotion to us... honouring their freedom to love whoever whenever might just guide them permission to love us completely.

Any resistance and how can they know what they truly want?

Do you want to be with somebody who feels threatened to be with you or else?

Or somebody who is fully choosing to be with you from the bottom of their heart?

Exclusivity is right for some. And natural. For those for whom it is not natural, it can be rather poisonous.

Wanting to hurt somebody because they have love for another person is mean. But that's just part of life, too.

We are like animals... like elk fighting for a mate. The deep devotion forged by mating birds is another model.

These are my personal opinions. The thing about astrology is that it helps us honour each individual's unique reality.

Their composite, like mine with D., has the Aqua stellium... I haven't seen much about your composite, DM...

But go back to your natal and your inner feelings. Listen to yourself. Don't give their story more power than your own. And honour your place in his heart and his life.

posted October 16, 2016 05:56 PM            

You wanna tell me not to preach and then call me a ****** doormat?

posted October 16, 2016 06:01 PM            

Again. I am not a doormat. Are you trying to provoke me? Cause I'm a vicious ***** and you don't know ****

There goes my professional status and hey

I don't accept clients who call me a ****** doormat. I also don't respond well to censoring.

If you think calling people out is unacceptable you should probably reconsider when you call people out.

I understand this is mega charged for you. I have compassion for your situation and I'm offering you the only way through I have found.

Other than breaking up shutting the door forever.

That's not what's in the cards for me. I need to find a way to love everybody, and that includes you, swears and anger and all.

You wanna see me stand up for myself? Does this give you satisfaction?

posted October 16, 2016 06:05 PM            

Or have you had an awakening? Tell us. Your opinion and experience is just as valid as ours.

posted October 16, 2016 06:29 PM            

I was wrong to laugh at you

But these things bring out the shadow stuff we have to look at.

Our relationships are mirrors for a reason

You are kind of showing me how she the Virgo actually feels... that's one key to this whole charade, I find out from her boyfriend she was super angry at him when he was still in.love with his ex.

So she pretend to be all high and mighty meanwhile she is jealous of ME and possessive of D. Saw us together and didn't want to lose him.. .and he calls me the ball and chain!!

Cause he wants to be possessed by her.which is great! They should have fun with that but honestly it won't be fun and she knows it which is why she didn't get her hands dirty like I did in an.ACTUAL relationship, who needs em anyway... actual relationships...

But the thing is, Orange, that we are all in this together.our souls triangulate for a reason. We find these situations to help us grow and realize we are all love

I know that is annoying and preachy and if people don't want honest help I'm.not the right one to talk to... cause I'll tell it like I see it but I always want to honour the process

It's about processing this dark stuff not pretending it doesn't exist

And shaming it
And I know it sucks to be laughed at and told what to do as if it applies to everybody. I know it hurts, you know I.knew it, but it's not black and white

And yes yes yes I was a ducking doormat but you know that's part of who I am

posted October 16, 2016 06:37 PM            

I never meant to hurt you.

I am a silly self defensive ass like the rest of the world, I.know that.

These relationships... this preaching from the mass media and monogamous culture in general... this idea that we can shut the door and keep all others out of our love..

That's a nice dream. A seemingly comfortable idea. And of course I would also love it to be true

Just it creates so much pain when the individuals don't feel free to love...it causes so much pain to be ashamed and that's what creates cheaters, cause they say "can I do this?" You say no...then one day it explodes.

Try to hem Uranus in. Just try.

Open communication and understanding are key to healthy relating.

But sometimes one person holds the whip and sometimes both keep one another in line. That's love too... or rather, it's part of the process of true self realization... which eventually does break the illusion of a state with no flux or change, a promise of forever...

But

It's all ok. It's all valid.

Me saying anything is bad and wrong is what's wrong

But even that is just part of the process....

posted October 16, 2016 07:02 PM            

you are not hurting me AT ALL, but honest to God - its hurtful to see that you are hurting.
I am not a fan of the way you conduct your relationships , ( i am not a fan of my own ways of dealing, as well, but at least, in comparison, i am very well aware of my shortcomings ), but I never commented about yours, it's your business alone and nobody else's. ...until you started to tell me I should follow suit and that requiring boundaries is "mean". ahhh.

posted October 16, 2016 08:45 PM            

Spirituality isn't all roses and buttercups. My spirituality doesn't ignore the dark goddess. I have Kaali on the ascendant I'll teeeaaar you to pieces and I won't lose an inch of my divinity.

Neither will you!

When , I say we're all one I FACKIN MEAN IT.

I MEAN EVERYONE. EVERYTHING.

YOU KNOW HOW TERRIFYING THAT IS

you know how fine it is?

No love lost but I'm a ******* faker??

You little snake

I love snakes but they're verrrry slithery

posted October 16, 2016 08:50 PM            

You have no idea how much I love you right now.

And yeah I said stupid **** . You can roast in your judgment of me until you actually love me for it, just like I'll roast in my hatred until I'm.through it.

The first stage of alchemy is burning the ego... It's painful and long.

It is seriously painful and seriously long. But it's gonna be worth it!

I don't deny I have an ego, that I have issues

I think it's mean to tell somebody not to love other people, but I didn't say it was WRONG.

Also what I think

*doesn't fuckimg matter*

Nor is it static. It changes.

You wanna tell me I have bad boundaries? Do it. You are correct. Watch me blow through every boundary in existence.

Yeah I'm losing it.

I recognize there are things we can't do, there are horrible things. But loving people and being friends with them *isn't one of them*

Seriously....

I get it. It's been called evil.

So was Lilith. People thought Lilith was evil, for wanting to enjoy sex.

Literally, that was the story.

posted October 16, 2016 08:58 PM            

And you would notice that you told DM her partner was being

, ABUSIVE

for wanting to see his ex at a party.

That's not judgment?

Sorry arghh is right. The hypocrisy and judgment are through the roof. You crossed my boundary calling me a doormat so I blew the doors off.

If you really don't want my advice I'll stop giving it.

I see your point, it's mean to make somebody jealous on purpose it's mean and abusive to intentionally hurt one another

But straight up seeing your ex is not abusive, the fact we can't be in the same room as our partner's other sexual partners is a symptom of a sick society. I'm not into it... I understand how deeply ingrained these morals are. I'm glad you're so sure what you want and need

I hope that everyone finds their way.

I really do lol **** ... not spiritual.

How do you define spiritual?

Maybe I did act naive and big eyed and too nice and blind but guess what... I was doing my best with what I had at the time to not be hurt.

Love exposes us. It rips us raw. There are no safety nets which will catch you in the end everything can rip us apart, the whole ego is destined for the flame, the cauldron, and it is a painful death

posted October 16, 2016 09:00 PM            

We are both truly in love. We feel all the great things our relationship has to offer, but also the pain of being vulnerable and hurt as well. I think it opens both doors.

I think with this dw, we are stuck on each other. He does play the games with me that were mentioned, tries to pull away and make me want for him. He did it recently, and I called him out on it. Not in a mean way really, but more of, "ok, so you wanna look for something better? Here's what we have and what we've been through. Do not be disrespectful towards me by looking around because I will not stand for it..." Yada yada...lol. Truth is, when I found out, I was ready to kick him out of my life, but I thought about it for a couple days and decided to take a different approach, and it worked. Mainly because we got to the root of what was causing it and really talked it out. I feel a more binding connection with him now, and he has more respect for me for the way I handled it all. But it was definitely the whole, I'm not getting what I need from you so I'm gonna act this way, type of thing.

He didn't hook up with anyone else, but he was online looking around. And I felt It when it happened...like I knew he was doing something he shouldn't have been doing...i can sense it somehow. And he knows I can! So I think its more of a cry for attention because he hasn't had what we have together ever before. Neither have I.

I dont know if it will be a reoccurring theme for us. I'm learning a lot about him and myself through this relationship and most of the time, its great! But when were are vulnerable? That's when we can get really dumb or immature and guarded.

posted October 16, 2016 09:01 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Orange:
Yung,

you are not hurting me AT ALL, but honest to God - its hurtful to see that you are hurting.
I am not a fan of the way you conduct your relationships , ( i am not a fan of my own ways of dealing, as well, but at least, in comparison, i am very well aware of my shortcomings ), but I never commented about yours, it's your business alone and nobody else's. ...until you started to tell me I should follow suit and that requiring boundaries is "mean". ahhh.

All is good here on my end, no love lost.
...even thou judging by your posts above, you are not the spiritual person you are trying to convey

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The whole issue is comparison. You aren't actually ok with your way of dealing, or you wouldn't be judging mine. You have no idea of my level of self awareness, sweetheart... not the tiniest fraction of a notion.

I am actually ok with my way of dealing... And I'm actually ok with yours. Sorry I judged you. I was literally trying to help. Mistake! I also laughed at you and crossed your boundary, you say you're not hurt but that's you not wanting to be like me, a doormat. I didn't mean to laugh at you and I didn't mean to judge. I was processing for myself, and not trying to tell you how to feel, but yeah you're right, I called out what was happening in your relationship as unhealthy, and offering other avenues to approach it. I know people will fight tooth and nail for monogamy, it is dumb of me to try.

But the important thing is..

The whole issue boils down to comparisons. You comparing me to you. You comparing you to her. Him comparing you to her.

It can't be done.

posted October 16, 2016 09:07 PM            

Dont worry Orange, I'm not pretending anymore in any area of my life. My reputation and everything can literally burn in hell. But I'm also not unspiritual for it. (Do you know my south node is in the 10th in Virgo? Never would've thought eh!!!?)

What do you want. Do you want me to stick up for myself and be ACTUALLY spiritual, or be perfect and look the part?

posted October 16, 2016 09:10 PM            

It's all genius.

It's ok if you don't get it but I actually do care for you just like I care for myself and everybody. I'm a real person...

I actually think this is the bad side of my Virgo south node though... ripping into you and criticizing you from my high horse... publicly...

Yeah.

posted October 16, 2016 09:12 PM            

Oh well I guess I'll have to rebuild my perfect reputation brick by brick.

Thanks for triggering me so hard. I'll stop now, have a good night everyone, and remember

posted October 16, 2016 09:12 PM            

it's bizarre, but nothing you say (the posts directed at me) gets me, really. These are some petty posts. Quite a lot of them, plenty of words, and none was effective to make me feel anything. ( it was funny that you thought you were ripping me. But it was sad to think that this was your intention.)

I kinda liked the one where you said you feel love for me. That was sweet. :-)

let's move on. I dont care of any of your delusional shitt.

Saturn on Venus

or Saturn on Sun

OOOHHHH

btw, Yung

posted October 16, 2016 09:33 PM            

Edit, your eeeeego can burn in hell.

posted October 16, 2016 09:37 PM            

But nothing I said bothered you.

You're right I'm a weak victim.

If none of it hurt you then why were you so mean to me?

Why were you being so hypocritical and self righteous?

If somebody is hurt they lash out, pretty much how it works. Boundaries crossed, defense mode.